Sounds like a great approach to language learning 
Just squint a bit and it all makes sense… 
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Yeah, I do that all the time when trying to read Dutch, Danish, Swedish and the like 
If it’s a narrow context or a well-known type of text, then that even works out quite okay sometimes 
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Listen Every Day Challenge - Summer 2022
What I listened to:
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Japanese Lesson -
JLPT test and Listening Practice -
Talking with Japanese friends -
Kiki’s Delivery Service -
Youtube video -
American Life Podcast (recommended by miwuc) -
Reload Podcast -
鬼滅の刃
Finished:
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博多豚骨ラーメンズ -
Flying Witch
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How do you write your name in Japanese?
This really changes based on where you’re from. Different countries pronounce it very differently. People from the USA would write ニコール. But here it would be ニコーレ, or even ニコーリ
Rauch is probably just ラウチ tho, right?
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Where is “here”, if I may ask?
I pronounce my first name similarly to how the French pronounce it, and so I write it ニコル (the last bit is short, not stretched out like the Americans pronounce it 
). Here is a sample pronunciation (scroll down to the “… in German” section): Nicole pronunciation: How to pronounce Nicole in English, Swedish, French, Italian, German, Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish
And for my last name, the German pronunciation is nothing like the American one either, therefore I write it ラウフ. Here is a sample of how it’s pronounced: Aussprache von Rauch: Wie man Rauch auf Deutsch ausspricht
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It’s kind of interesting Lauf has the same Katakanization. If you can even have that as a last name 
.
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Looks like you can indeed: Lauf Namensbedeutung und -herkunft
Surprisingly it seems to be much more frequent in the US than in Germany 
(maybe it’s an old name and got modified in Germany but stayed the same with the emigrants? 
)
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ニコーレ → ブラジル in general.
ニコーリ → some places, such as リオデジャネイロ.
The website you sent has an audio sample
I can clearly hear an “e” sound after the L. I don’t know why you think RU is more appropriate. But maybe I’m just biased
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In Japanese the English words that ends with “-ole” often turn into ール
For example,
parole – パロール
black hole – ブラックホール
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I think this is just the way we Germans pronounce this 
Different languages prime our ears for different letter combinations, I guess.
Can you hear an “e” sound at the end of these words as well? (in the German pronunciation ofc)
- toll pronunciation: How to pronounce toll in German, English, Hungarian, Low German, Catalan, Norwegian, Scottish Gaelic, Estonian, Irish
- jawoll pronunciation: How to pronounce jawoll in German
- voll pronunciation: How to pronounce voll in German, Pennsylvania Dutch, Luxembourgish
As you can see from the spelling, none of those words have an “e” at the end. And for me, none of them (including my name) sound to me as if there is a voiced “e” at the end.
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very much, either e or i. you don’t?
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Sorry, but… no
I think I can hear what you’re referring to, but to me it sounds just like a bit dragged out. If they had an “e” at the end, they would sound like this:
- tolle pronunciation: How to pronounce tolle in German, Finnish
- volle pronunciation: How to pronounce volle in Italian, German, Dutch
- Rolle pronunciation: How to pronounce Rolle in German, Danish
(and no, I’m not going to do that with my name 
)
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I also don’t think there is a voiced e (or i) sound at the end of Nicole (nor in toll, jawoll or voll). But when I checked the Portuguese pronunciation of Nicole, there was definitely a voiced e at the end; I could not hear it in any other language though.
So maybe it is a language familiarity thing? Like what enunciations of letters you are used to?
For the record, I’m Swedish, and the Swedish pronunciation of Nicole seemed a bit off, a bit dialectical, if I had to spell the pronunciation as it is, I’d do it Nikål (I don’t know Swedish phonetics, so I’m just using the spelling I would guess for the name if I had no guide in how it was spelt); while I would assume something more like Nikoll, but then my pronunciation would show my dialect instead (or my familiarity with how it is pronounced in other languages), so I can’t really claim it IS wrong.
Language(s) is weird.
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I’m from Stockholm and would also say Nikoll, but I didn’t listen to the thing
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Hello fellow former Stockholmer! I’m also from there. Yeah, the Swedish guy who’d left the Swedish pronunciation said the cole part of Nicole like kål (vitkål, grönkål, etc.) (and I definitely heard some hint of dialect, but not enough to place it, not that I’m good at placing such things anyway). It sounded very weird to me. xD
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Damn you livin in a syndrome?
Anything that ends in L we pronounce as U unless there’s E. So that’s probably it
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What I read in the Autumn Challenge 2022
Ongoing:
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ユージニア (with the ABC) -
封印再度 - Who Inside (with the S&M book club) -
世界から猫が消えたなら (my new sauna book) -
おばちゃんがいるところ (with the IBC) -
糞尿譚 (started way earlier but couldn’t finish due to difficulty - maybe this time?) -
Attack on Titan 1 -
Albert Camus: L’Étranger
Paused:
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穴 (we discussed its difficulty in the Intermediate club and I got curious…) -
Eine kleine Nachtmusik (from 本屋大賞) -
雲をつかむ話 (read ch. 1 with the German-Italian Reading Circle, want to continue) -
ifの悲劇 (had this in my pile for sooo long already and started it but slightly lost interest in the meantime) -
聖お兄さん (started 100 years ago with the book club but never finished) -
カミュの異邦人 – When we read 人間失格 somebody mentioned the similarity of the two books, so I decided to give it a try (in French). Then Myria said she’d be interested in reading it as well, but in Japanese, so we will do a French-Japanese tandem 
Which means I will read it in French () and she will read it in Japanese, but I think I will also read each section in Japanese () afterwards to double-check my French understanding 
(curious to see which version I get more out of ^^) -
La Quête d’Ewilan: D’une monde à l’autre (maybe Belerith infected me with this book? Will see if I’ll read some of it on the side) -
大聖堂 (The Pillars of the Earth) (project with Japanese friend; but too hard for him; talked him out of it) - plus I need to clean up a few manga that I started but never finished
Lined up:
Nothing
Still later:
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1Q84 Book 1.2 ? (postponed until January, with the 1Q84 book club) -
博多豚骨ラーメンズ Vol. 1 (had to take a quick peek already )
Finished:
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TUGUMI (with the Intermediate book club; finished Oct 8th) -
Flesh&Blood Vol. 5 (with the F&B club; finished Oct 22nd) -
Flesh&Blood Vol. 6 (with the F&B club; finished Oct 29th)
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人間椅子 (with the Halloween Book Club; finished Nov 4th) -
海辺のカフカ（下） (with the spin-off book club; finished Nov 10th) -
秋の牢獄 (with the repeat club; finished Nov 26th) -
Flesh&Blood Vol. 7 (with the F&B club; finished Dec 2nd)
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Flesh&Blood Vol. 8 (with the F&B club; finished Dec 9th)
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星の王子さま (The Little Prince) (sauna book; finished Dec 10th) -
Flesh&Blood Vol. 9 (with the F&B club; finished Dec 18th)
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Flesh&Blood Vol. 10 (with the F&B club; finished Dec 23rd)
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おいしいごはんが食べられますように (with the Compulsive Readers club; finished Dec 30th)
Abandoned:
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狼と香辛料 (Spice and Wolf) Vol. 1 (with the Advanced club)
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What I read in the Winter Challenge 2023
Ongoing:
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飼育 -
水たまりで息をする -
Flesh&Blood Bonus Material for Vol. 9 (with the F&B club)
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ユートロニカのこちら側 (with the Compulsive Readers club) -
1Q84 Book 1.2 (with the 1Q84 book club)
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世界から猫が消えたなら (my new sauna book)
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Albert Camus: L’Étranger
Paused:
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穴 (we discussed its difficulty in the Intermediate club and I got curious…)
-
Eine kleine Nachtmusik (from 本屋大賞)
-
雲をつかむ話 (read ch. 1 with the German-Italian Reading Circle, want to continue)
-
ifの悲劇 (had this in my pile for sooo long already and started it but slightly lost interest in the meantime)
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聖お兄さん (started 100 years ago with the book club but never finished)
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カミュの異邦人 – When we read 人間失格 somebody mentioned the similarity of the two books, so I decided to give it a try (in French). Then Myria said she’d be interested in reading it as well, but in Japanese, so we will do a French-Japanese tandem Which means I will read it in French () and she will read it in Japanese, but I think I will also read each section in Japanese () afterwards to double-check my French understanding (curious to see which version I get more out of ^^)
-
La Quête d’Ewilan: D’une monde à l’autre (maybe Belerith infected me with this book? Will see if I’ll read some of it on the side)
-
大聖堂 (The Pillars of the Earth) (project with Japanese friend; but too hard for him; talked him out of it)
-
糞尿譚 (started way earlier but couldn’t finish due to difficulty - maybe this time?)
-
Attack on Titan 1
- plus I need to clean up a few manga that I started but never finished
Lined up:
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Flesh&Blood Bonus Material for Vol. 10 - 11 (with the F&B club)
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Flesh&Blood Vol. 12 (with the F&B club, from end of Feb.)
Still later:
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博多豚骨ラーメンズ Vol. 1 (had to take a quick peek already )
Finished:
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チュベローズで待ってる AGE22 (with the Compulsive Readers club; finished Jan 13th) -
ユージニア (with the ABC; finished Jan 15th)
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チュベローズで待ってる AGE32 (with the Compulsive Readers club; finished Jan 25th) -
Flesh&Blood Vol. 11 (with the F&B club; finished Feb 3rd)
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Flesh&Blood Bonus Material for Vol. 6 (with the F&B club; finished Feb 10th)
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Flesh&Blood Bonus Material for Vol. 8 (with the F&B club; finished Feb 23rd)
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夢十夜 by 夏目蒼石 (for the literature circle)
Abandoned:
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封印再度 - Who Inside (with the S&M book club)
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半落ち (with the 半落ち club) -
おばちゃんがいるところ (with the IBC)
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この本を盗む者は (with the ABC)
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Did you decide to stop reading the series altogether? 
I thought I might find out more by catching up on the threads, but no dice. This is of course completely fine, I’m just surprised. ^^
Have you decided to take your reading into a different direction this year?
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