Goal: This thread aims to read マンガ✖くり返しでスイスイ覚えられる百人一首 and provide historical background for the poems of the 百人一首.
Official starting date: July 18th
From that point on, we will discuss 5 poems a week, but feel free to read or discuss before the official start.
Each week, the OP is updated with a link jumping to the start of the current conversation
The thread is used to ask questions about the content of the book (like a regular book club) as well as the history, background of the poems, etc.
The result of the discussion is collected into the OP (which I plan to turn into a wiki), under a separate detail section for each poem (or maybe a single detail per week, so that we don’t get a crazy number of them), so that people can collaboratively contribute.
Argh, this looks really fun and interesting, and I’d be happy to join in with the research parts, but unfortunately, ordering anything physical from Japan is really expensive where I live. I don’t think I can afford it. Heck, I can barely afford WK every month…
Ughhh just put in a cdjapan order a few days ago. I really like the concept, but I guess it’ll have to wait until I’ve got enough books lined up to place another order. Watching this thread to see if someone finds an ebook after all.
yay, excited! Just to clarify on the poll choices: I would love to do the reading (obviously) and the research, and I’ll probably be really good about it the first few weeks, but I’m not sure if I’ll be able to keep it up every week.
I also voted for quite a late date, which is mostly because with how things are, COVID has kept me home for the last few months and it’s going to slowly start going back now, so not having such a big time commitment on top of that right off the bat would be ideal. BUT I’ll try to participate as best as I can regardless
I’m really glad to see that we got a reasonably-sized group already
Well, the poems themselves are freely available on the Internet (they are in the public domain obviously). So looking up things related to them should be fine too. You won’t get the manga/mnemonics but that’s not so bad I guess?
I wonder how legally grey it would be to post 1 double page per week (so 20% of the week’s content) and remove it at the beginning of the next week? Then people without a physical book can just work on that one (and get hints from the explanations), and we split the rest among the people who have the book.
I think fair use for educational purposes generally has a 10% cap. Obviously this isn’t like a teacher handing out copies in class, but figured it might be a useful benchmark to let you know how legally dubious you’re being
The fact that you’ll be making it available on the (indexable) internet to anybody makes it much more dubious than a usual educational setting though, I’d have thought - if you did do this you’d probably want to put it in a separate post that can be fully deleted, rather than the OP.
What if it was hosted somewhere else? Like on a google drive or something? Then I could have a single link that always point to the latest one. That way, only a fraction of the whole thing (~1%) would be available at a given time. I can’t really prevent people from making copies, but I feel it’s not going to be much of a problem. It’s unlikely to attract attention from the Internet, at least.
I guess there’s no other way to know than ask a moderator.
I’m going to try @RachelG, our resident customer support specialist.
TL;DR: the book we want to read does not have an e-book version. All double pages are independent, so I’d like to share a photo of one double page per week (out of the five we will read) for those who cannot get a physical version of the book. The photo will be hosted somewhere else than the forum and will be deleted at the end of the week. Would that be acceptable? If not, is there a way to make it work (reducing to 1 out of 10? Something else?)
Thanks for tagging me! Unfortunately, unless the book is offered for free online or the publisher explicitly gives permission, we can’t allow pages/sections of a book to be shared. That’s a bummer that there isn’t an e-book version.
It’s main goal is the translations, so it is not heavy on the history elements. It will not be sufficient as the only history source as the notes are not extensive enough for a deep dive, and not all poems get an history/translation note.
Small note. I have a master’s in history (my focus was witch trials and Norwegian demographic) but during my time at my university I have had some classes on Japanese history, so I might be able to give some good pointers.