ドラゴンボールSD (Dragon Ball SD) · Volume 1 Discussion 🐉

It’s strange how something can be so shocking in one culture and so normal in another. I remember seeing a poster on the wall in an onsen changing room which had photos of three boys around 10 years of age fully naked.

やけに具体的な上に長いわね…

I read this as: As well as/on top of being awfully specific, that was long…

I couldn’t find it in Jisho when I was reading, but found a JLPT Sensei reference now.

I think this is びくともしない - jisho link. Presumably せん is a contraction of しません.

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I remember once looking up movie ratings in Western Europe vs. USA.
It went something like this…

  • pretty mild movie, but there’s a scene with a nip slip - Europe (all ages), USA (mature)
  • Wars and fights and stuff - Europe (13+), USA (all ages)
  • More war, gore and blood - Europe 17+, USA (13+)
    So basically, in the USA it’s ok to have lots of violence, as long as nobody shows their boobs. :slight_smile:

I agree with Phryne comments on うえに it means besides/in addition to. I added to the sheet.

I also learned a new grammar on page 108:
For the じゃあるまし ーLink here

Does anyone know what the following means?:
"ぽげぎゃー” (page 111). Just a generic scream?
"むにゅむにゅ” (page 121, bottom left)

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I think this is the sound of him maybe rubbing his eyes after waking up? Though you don’t see him do it in the image… Maybe it’s just the sort of contented noise one can make after a good rest? Like ‘nyam nyam’? :stuck_out_tongue:

I couldn’t find any reference for this, so I imagine it’s just a (weird) scream. The ぎゃー part certainly seems scream-like.

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Yeah, that’s how I read them too. ぎゃ is in thejadednetwork.com sfx database meaning a shriek/scream. ぽげぎゃ as such wasn’t listed.

I suspected that was the case!
And I was reading the original version in English last night and they translated the "むにゅ” panel as a waking up moan, so that was also a good guess :slight_smile:

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Week 11!

Start date: 9 Jan
Pages: 125-144

How is the reading going?
  • I am reading along :dragon:
  • I am catching up :muscle:t3:
  • I am dropping this book :person_gesturing_no:t3:

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That was a very funny chapter! A bit harder this week.

Page 127
一年たったらここんとこをピッと おせばレーダーに反応がでるとおもうわ!

Summary

一年たったら - after one year has passed
ここんとこ - these days
を - object marker
ピッと - not sure - perhaps ピッ is the noise of the radar, and と is the quotation particle / or maybe related to ぴったり (exactly)
おせば (押せば) - if pressing
レーダーに反応がでる - a response will appear on the radar
とおもう - I think

So something like - After a year with a “pii!”, if you press here they will show up on the radar I think.
or - After exactly a year, if you press here they will will show up on the radar I think.

Page 132
あ どっこらしょーのしょっ…と!

Summary

Maybe どこら (where) and しょうねん?

Right, where is that boy…?
Right, what’s that boy up to…?

Page 132
お前いったいなにしに来たんじゃ?

Summary

I think the し is from する - しに来た = Came to do

What the hell did you come here to do?
or
What the hell are you doing here?

イキがいいといっても元気さえあればいいってもんじゃないぞ。

Page 136
チンチンがなくてイキのいいやつだろう?

Summary

A very fresh person without a penis, right?

イキのいい - Jisho defines as meaning “very fresh(e.g. food)”. Presumably here in reference to a person having a meaning closer to 元気 (especially in context of the sentence in the next panel - イキがいいといっても元気さえあればいいってもんじゃないぞ - Just because I said very fresh, doesn’t mean it’s ok to just be lively)

Well this chapter was wild… I lost it at this panel when I looked up ビチビチ:

And Krillin cracks me up, his head reminds me of Shinchan :joy:

I took it to mean ここのところ, so ‘if you press this part here’.

I asked about this on HiNative and got this response:

Hahaha… That’s funny. Yeah, it’s really hard to find its counterparts in foreign languages.
In English, for example, wouldn’t you say “Whew” or something when you have to move when you don’t want to move? That’s what どっこいしょ, どっこらせ, どっこらしょーのしょっと are like. Also, they are used like “Heave!” as well.

That is how I took it too. Here’s the thesaurus entry for it.

Page 137

I’m getting tangled here.

イキがいいといっても
Even though I did say ‘energetic’

元気さえあればいいってもんじゃないぞ
it’s not a ‘as long as you’re energetic that’s good enough’ sort of thing!

ガキすぎてもババすぎてもダメ!
If she’s too young or too old, that’s no good!

かわいくて で できればムッチリとした娘がベストだな!
A cute and, in addition, if possible, plump girl is best!

Does this look about right? I am confused about the て-form かわいくて, combined with で. I figured it’s a て-form because it’s an ‘and’ thing (‘cute and plump’) and で reinforced that ‘additional’ sense?

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Thanks for those replies and for asking in hi native. “Whew!” makes perfect sense in context.

I read this section in the same way as you’ve suggested. I did wonder if the で できる was a stutter here? I presume he was going for “voluptuous” with むっちり rather than plump, Goku might misunderstand that!

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If you were wondering about the girl in the Pie Pie T-shirt at the end of the chapter, she’s a hotty that Goku brought back for Master Roshi in the original manga, who didn’t make it into the SD version:

Summary


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Week 12

Start date: 16 Jan
Pages: 145-164

How is the reading going?
  • I am reading along :dragon:
  • I am catching up :muscle:t3:
  • I am dropping this book :person_gesturing_no:t3:

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Another great chapter! In the original manga Lunch is running away from the police when she is “saved” by Goku and Krillin. Unfortunately we don’t get to see that seen in our manga, just a small reference to it at the top of page 146 leading into the chapter.

Page 153
What’s going on in this sentence? They’ve just arrived at the large staircase on their run, and Master Roshi’s told them they are heading up. He says:

ここはべつに走らんでもない

It feels like he’s saying they don’t have to run, but it looks like they are running up the stairs.

Page 157
At the end of the first training day Master Roshi says:
よし とりあえず今日の修行はこんなところでよかろう

What is the よかろう?

Page 164
This page between chapters is very funny! Any idea why he calls her 仏滅ギャル?

PS - I’ve ordered the next 2 books. CD Japan emailed me a few days ago to say they’d been dispatched - on average takes 5-12 days but may take up to 8 weeks!

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:eyes: Are you… suggesting something? :smirk:

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Yes you got the hint! For me this one is too good to stop reading. I already loved the story but it’s great reading this in full colour, plus all the in-jokes and references to future events. The level is really nice for me too - hard enough to be challenging, but easy enough that I can read it at a reasonable pace and enjoy the story.

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Well go on then, if you insist :innocent: I’ll do a poll to set a schedule in the home thread.

I’ve been enjoying reading SD even more since I start reading it alongside the original Dragon Ball (in translation), as per your suggestion. It really does add a lot of extra ‘flavour’ :grin:

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Hi! I just caught up with last week and will read this week. I have all 6 books actually lol. I know I will read all eventually :sweat_smile:
So, I will probably join in continuing reading it, even if work makes me sometimes be behind for a week, I can catch up.

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This is my first time trying to quote things here on WK, so let’s how it goes.

That’s what he says… that they don’t have to run if they don’t want to. The same frame in the english translation of the original says: “But, well, I suppose you don’t really have to do this at a run”

Page 157

Summary

At the end of the first training day Master Roshi says:
よし とりあえず今日の修行はこんなところでよかろう

What is the よかろう?

I think its an old fashioned way of saying "いいだろう”, that has a more authoritative, more explaining than asking for a confirmation. Here’s a better explanation
https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/3300/%E3%82%88%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8D%E3%81%86-what-does-it-mean-where-does-it-come-from

Page 164

Summary

This page between chapters is very funny! Any idea why he calls her 仏滅ギャル?

With the help of google 先生 I think it’s related to buddhist fortune telling. 仏滅 basically mean that you have bad fortune for the day. So, I understood that the joke is that she is the girl that they get on an unlucky day.
https://japaneight.com/fortune/

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Great answers thank you. I’ve been happily planning my life without realising the existence of 仏滅 days!

Favourite panel of the week!

Master Roshi skipping really tickled my funny bone :grin:

I have a lot of questions this week!

Page 146


Is ぜい supposed to be a variant of ぜ?

Page 158


What’s that と during there?

Page 161


What is をせい supposed to be…? Some contraction?

Page 163


ほんじゃ…?

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ほんじゃ means それでは = well then. It’s dialect/provincialism. Hi native link.

Perhaps just meaning “with”? Not how you’d phrase it in English, but I feel like I see a few phrases in Japanese that use と a bit like this.

Is it をします? We’ve seen a few odd contractions of する conjugations in these dialects. Difficult to look up a reference for this though.