Yet another warning not to abuse the override script from someone who did

I am on level 24 today. I heavily abused the override script up to level 10 and then thankfully stopped. My sins are catching up to me now, and with a ton of failed reviews, I am finally learning quite a few words that I should not have overridden all those months ago. My accuracy on wkstats up till this points has been around 95% while my actual accuracy is probably somewhere between 85-90%. Watching my accuracy drop with literally every medium-large (40+) review session is pretty demoralising, although of course, I know that now I am actually learning more.

Anyway, I donā€™t have any new insight. Just thought that I should lend one more voice to the discussion in case it prevents someone else from making the same mistake.

PS: The script itself is highly useful, and I still use it regularly, albeit only in a couple of scenarios.

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That old chestut. Good luck to you!

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What are some scenarios where itā€™s still useful for you, in your opinion? Iā€™ve never tried it at all yet.

One issue is that I am rather fat-fingered and make a few typos every now and then. A bigger one is that when doing large chunks of reviews I have the habit of quickly hitting enter twice - once to answer the question and then to get the next question. If I get it wrong, I donā€™t get a chance to read the correct answer. I read somewhere on the forums that getting an answer wrong multiple times pushes the card further down the SRS levels. So I wait for that card to come up again, type whatever and then override my answer so that I can read the correct answer without the extra penalty.

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Thank you!

Sounds like you need this script! [Userscript] Wanikani Mistake Delay (new, version 2.x)

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Yes, or the one I prefer: [Userscript] WaniKani Wrong Answer Delay. (There are a few similar scripts and I tested a few, but I forget why I preferred this one.)

As to why one would use the override script, Iā€™d add that many of the standard WK definitions especially for kanji are quite narrow. So if you know what an item really means, but the word you typed doesnā€™t match the WK definition, then I think youā€™re justified in using the override script and adding your own synonym.

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Yes, thatā€™s exactly what I need, thanks a lot.

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Just FYI, Iā€™ve stopped supporting the standalone version of Mistake Delay. I meanā€¦ I think it still works, but if it ever stops working, I only plan to maintain the version built into [Double-Check].

If you only want the Mistake Delay feature of Double-Check, you can disable the other features via the Settings.

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Iā€™ve been slowly increasing my use.

1: typos. Now I can write more freely without worrying. If it was honest typo, why not.
2: For some that I fully understood, just the English meaning wasnā€™t listed. Just now happened for am/morning. I wrote before noon.

But in general Iā€™m very strict. Shouldnā€™t overuse. Leveling is not the point of WK. Learning is.

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What does the override script do?

It lets you ignore an incorrect answer while doing reviews giving you another chance to get it right. Hereā€™s more information about it - [OBSOLETE] Wanikani Override ("ignore answer button")

I see. I think I sometimes use this function on the kaniwani app and feel like itā€™s either a lifesaver or a devastating curse.

thatā€™s the crux with override/double-check: without them, wk is just terrible and borderline unusable. with them, you have to be careful and watch yourself, so you donā€™t damage your learning.

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Well, ā€œterrible and borderline unusableā€ is a personal assessment. WK is perfectly usable without an override feature. It just requires you to type the given definition in order to progress.

But yes, personally, I am very grateful for the override script because I often know the meaning of something without remembering the exact wording required.

Abusing the script is like cheating at solitaire. You donā€™t hurt anyone but yourself, so thatā€™s a personal choice. But as long the goal is more about learning Kanji/Vocab rather than reaching level 60 as fast as possible, thereā€™s little incentive to abuse it. (And believe me, reaching level 60 doesnā€™t mean you can necessarily remember anything you learned along the way long-term.)

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The nice thing about abusing Override is that, when you finally realize you need to reset, youā€™ll get a lot more practice with those kanji/vocab that you didnā€™t actually know :laughing:

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Before I learned about this script I was so annoyed that my fat fingers and occasional wrong-but-right association like ā€œlittleā€ for ā€œsmallā€ were costing me hours and hours of progress. It was making learning so stressful! I wanted to ask them to add an ā€œoopsā€ button and I would be so careful not to abuse it, cross my heart hope to die, because Iā€™m SERIOUS about LEARNING and I would only be cheating myself.

It has taken all of one day using the script for my definition of ā€œoopsā€ to expand to almost any error.

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Iā€™m sorry whatā€™s the point in marking correct something you donā€™t know ?
Genuine question

Just FYI, thereā€™s already a feature where you can add User Synonyms to items so that if you added ā€œlittleā€ to ā€œsmallā€, it would henceforth accept ā€œlittleā€ for that item. In this way, you only really need to ā€˜sufferā€™ one such ā€˜mistakeā€™ per synonym. Itā€™s more targeted and limited in focus. That being said, you could still use the override script so you donā€™t even have to ā€˜sufferā€™ that one ā€˜mistakeā€™, and you can still add in the synonym so you donā€™t have to constantly use the override script for those kinds of ā€˜mistakesā€™.

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The point is to use it for things you do know but inputted incorrectly by mistake. Still, Iā€™m a bit of a perfectionist (not saying this is a good thing! Far from it!) so I prefer (against my better judgment, sigh) to train myself to not make such input mistakes in the first place. If I can find a different use-case for it, I might start using it, but not for this kind of minor input mistakes. But I can definitely see why other folks would find it very useful.

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