As the title suggests, I’d like to know what’s a realistic progression goal for 3 months. I’m currently on level 2 but I also studied Japanese in college. Although I always sucked, I do remember some of them.
I’ve always set ridiculous long term goals and fizzled out. I’ve got a new fancy pants goal tracking journal and am experimenting with the idea of 3 month ‘sprints’ as opposed to long term goals.
How many levels could I go up in 3 months if I log in at least once a day and clear all the lessons and reviews?
Also, do people generally clear everything every day? More than once a day?
Fastest possible is about 7 days per level. More realistic IMO is 10 days per level. However to get WK to work at a good speed you really need to used it 3x a day, especially on days where you lean new items.
The review system is best used if you sign in at least three times a day, due to the review intervals. The first reviews happen 4 hours after you do lessons, and if you get those reviews right, the items return 8 hours after that. Most benefit from hitting those early review intervals to aide retention.
If you don´t need the retention boost, it still means that you progress faster. Radicals and kanji have to hit the Guru SRS stage before new things unlock, so if you want to progress at a reasonable clip, you´re much better off with a minimum of three review sessions a day. One of the most common schedules to suggest is something like 08:00, 12:00 and 20:00.
I personally don’t advocate for doing all lessons at once. I find the bloated review queues very tedious, and if you use a script to reorder lessons, you can go max speed (7 day levels) while sticking to about 20 lessons a day.
(If you’re confused that you levelled up in less than 7 days - the first 2 levels are faster than the rest of WK).
@jprspereira breaks down this method more in a post he made:
So in three months, you can definitely be level 10+, but you don’t feel the real pain of rushing until about 6 months in, when Burn reviews happen. So it can be hard to know what lesson speed keeps you within an amount of reviews that is tolerable for you.
Experiment, I’d say. Try how you like it when going fast, and you can always slow down again.
Thanks so much! I didn’t know about the scripts. Some of those sound amazing. Especially the override one as I’ve made a few careless mistakes multiple times. I’m guessing as soon as you get it wrong once it drops all the way back to the lowest level right?
Just a question. Sounds like most of you are doing this on the web based app? I’ve always used the app for Android. Is flaming durdles something else?
You are gonna find mixed feelings with this userscript only because UGH, it’s so useful. I personally don’t use it because most of my mistakes come from a lack of focus. My memory is all there but sometimes I just need to stop and observe the Kanji or Vocab, observe it for like a long time sometimes.
I feel if I got the userscript it would make me more likely to do things like “I think it’s A” … “could be B” … “Ugh let me just say A” wrong “Oh so it was B then, ok fine, I technically still knew that, it’s fine”
I don’t think I have the discipline to not abuse it
It took me 6 days less than 3 months to get from 1 to 11.
I delayed a lot of the vocab lesson on level 6 to 10 by using reordering scripts, so I ended up with a huge pile of lessons, which I just defeated. That’s why I needed 14 days to get from 11 to 12.
In hindsight, I wouldn’t skip or delay the vocab lessons anymore, because they help you to memorize the Kanji and without vocab the Kanji worthless anyways.
I’d guess if you do all the lessons on each level before moving on you’ll need about 10 days (± 1) for a level which is 3 levels / month.
I believe it’s something like dropping 2 SRS levels, so high level items don’t go fully back to one. But it drops with every mistake. So if it’s a persistent leech and you get it wrong more than once in the same review session, it’ll quickly be back at the front of the queue.
Flaming Durdles is an app version that a user here on the site made.
As others have said ~10 levels every 3 months is a great pace.
Doing reviews at least two times per day is also important.
This community is incredible. Don’t miss the wikis and the scripts that some users have made. (I find new ones every day after more than three months here). My list of “must have userscripts”:
Wanikani Ultimate Timeline
Wanikani Double-Check (or Wanikani Override)
Wanikani Lesson Ordering II
The first one is very helpful and innocuous. The last two are even more helpful, but can also make life harder if you misuse them.
I started this the last week of September 2019, so at the end of December I was L13. I progress one level every 7-8 days. I use the site when I wake up, maybe around lunch time, and then at night before bed.
I 99% use the mobile site since I don’t use a computer outside of my day job - so I don’t have access to scripts, which is okay.
Compare to my friend who started the same time I did, I think he’s level 5 or 6 right now. He tends to make a lot of mistakes on the kanji which slows his progression, and he doesn’t follow a strict schedule, so he might delay reviews for a half day or so from when they appear.
So a realistic 3 month goal is probably somewhere in between L6 and L15.
Thanks so much for informing me about the scripts.
Can I ask a question? I’ve had a go of both the WaniKani app and Flaming Durtles.
Am I correct in assuming that if I want to use the scripts like those you’ve mentioned above, I would have to be using the web based version of WaniKani. By logging in via Chrome from my phone or desktop? Or do the scripts also work with the apps?