New characters?

I understand that when you add a rakuten to a character,you get a new sound,but what sound do the characters も゙ and 二゙ make?

um does も゙ even exist? I have no idea :sweat_smile: where did you find it?
also I can’t see the second one you posted

Sure it does,it wouldn’t be possible for me to type out if it didn’t.The second one is the katakana for ‘ni’ with a rakuten on it.

も゙ and 二゙ are not “real” kana, the only sounds that can be dakuten’d are k, s, t, and h row

Your IME/keyboard might allow you to add a dakuten but when grouped with n, m etc row it doesn’t really make sense.

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So it’s just a random glitch?Okay lol

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What about, say, 力゚or 車゙? :crazy_face:

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As an aside it’s dakuten 濁点 and not rakuten 楽天 :slight_smile:

And I think they’re just for emphasis on other characters

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So, those characters are actually a combination of two Unicode characters. (U+3082 + U+3099, U+4E8C + U+3099.)

The second one, U+3099, is a combining character, which means that when it is rendered, it is visually combined with the previous character.

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Sometimes you might see kanas with dakuten that should not be there, usually in subtitles for Japanese TV shows or anime/manga, that could indicate shouting. For example, if you see " ゙ in a show, that might indicate that someone is shouting AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH or something like this, but usually that’s only for things that could ressemble onomatopeias, not も゙

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Why didn’t you ask in the thread where you found them?

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from what I’ve understood they didn’t find them anywhere
they just typed them and the keyboard created them

Yesterday there was a thread in which those two specific characters were used

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oh I didn’t see that one :thinking:

Just cause you can type it doesn’t mean you can read it. As an example, here’s something I can type in English: jknzdfhjkvaybrt vqalbunkvagkhjas.

It wasn’t a glitch, @acm2010 typed them on purpose.

Especially considering 二゙ is actually kanji.

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The Unicode is powerful enough to create your own, it can combine them but doesn’t check the rules. He person who types has to ensure that it makes sense, I was just playing a bit with the functionality. [Unicode already includes combined versions for the kana actually in use as well, but having the option to put it anywhere is useful when the Japanese decide to just use a new combination.]

It’s surprising that it works so well across operating systems without doing anything special. I wouldn’t call it a glitch but creative usage.

I declare 車̈ to be read kürümä.

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Especially considering 二゙ is actually kanji.

I was thinking of the katakana 二

although they are basically identical, kana ニ kanji 二

:exploding_head:


It’s actually pretty cool that you can do this.

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I could imagine katakana with dakuten in weird places being used for alien languages and whatnot. I haven’t seen that done, but it would seem like an interesting way to convey “strange sounds.”

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Well they kinda do weird stuff with あ. I have no idea what sound あ with a dakuten is supposed to make.

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あ゛あ゛あ゛あ゛あ゛あ゛あ゛あ゛あ゛あ゛あ゛あ゛

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