Employment, Finding Employment, Occupation

[M4tthi4s91]

I hate you

[Katznelson]

That there is the shortest OP I’ve read on this site.

[M4tthi4s91]

When you reach level 27, you’ll see that there is no further explanation needed

[anji]

there’s a whole lot. Just you wait.

Zone, area, district, boundary
investigation, inspection, examination, inquiry

yum yum!

[Katznelson]

Ah, I see what you’re getting at.

Thought you might be railing against the concept of “employment” in general, or had a grudge against the Crabigator, or something like that.

[M4tthi4s91]

I might have cheated a bit on zone, district, etc.

[anji]

omg! Teach me master! What did you do? ignore script? synonyms?

[M4tthi4s91]

Yeah, sometimes I ignore, when it’s “too stupid”. I feel like it won’t hinder my general understanding of Japanese if I consider district and area as synonyms.

The employment vocab is still pretty fresh, there I still try to get it into my brain the way it is supposed to be

[anji]

I did the hard work of going through example sentences for each and every one to figure out the nuance differences. >.<

Wish I could say “never again”, but there’s still the investigation -bunch left and surely more to come later

[M4tthi4s91]

That’s the honorable thing to do

[Redglare]

Congrats! You have identified one of the common “leech clusters” on Wanikani!

Knowing exactly which of the words are hard to remember because of their similarity to each other is one of the first steps necessary to tackle them

Here’s one of the most recommended scripts to tackle these kinds items:

[Userscript] ConfusionGuesser

ConfusionGuesser General script installation instructions Open Framework installation ConfusionGuesser Recommended: activate “Use IDS” in the settings menu (see screenshots below) What does it do? If you give a wrong answer during a review, this script guesses which other WK items you confused the question with and displays them in a list, so that you can review the differences immediately. More precisely, if you answered with a wrong meaning, it displays items with your entered meaning, and…

Good luck with the leeches!

[M4tthi4s91]

Remember when the Iphone was new and there were ads, that there is an “app for everything”?

Turns out on WK there is a script for everything

[hughesgeorgem]

@Redglare

You have identified one of the common “leech clusters” on Wanikani!

This makes me wonder if there’s a way to put users’ data together and find out which words are most easily confused with each other, building up a map of word clouds or something.

[trunklayer]

I’ve just had this very thought a few minutes ago

But yes, I’m afraid the only way to fix this problem is to learn by heart that
就業 is employment,
職業 is occupation
and
就職 is finding a job

[Redglare]

Yeah, I wish there was a thread about these kinds of words, a list of the most common ones. One subcategory is definitely transitive vs intransitive verbs and WK staff have already worked on separating those in terms of levels, more info in this thread:

Spacing Out Transitive & Intransitive Verbs

Have you ever confused transitive and intransitive verbs like 入る and 入れる before? I know I have! Differentiating between these pairs of verbs is a major struggle for learners of Japanese. Research suggests that it is more effective to learn one verb in a pair first before being introduced to the other. For this reason, we’ve decided to alter the sequencing in which these words will appear in your lessons. In our new sequencing, verb pairs are separated by at least one level, giving you ample tim…

Maybe they have more plans about making it easier to tackle these kinds of leeches in the future.

[Redglare]

@trunklayer

But yes, I’m afraid the only way to fix this problem is to learn by heart that
就業 is employment,
職業 is occupation
and
就職 is finding a job

And don’t forget 求職 job hunting! At least for me it is still a leech, I realized only recently.

[Shadkat]

I still have an entire self-study quiz devoted to these

Also, I loved the like, seven different words you learn for consent and to consent and everything like that somewhere in the 30’s…Most of them made sense, but then here comes 納得.

[banira]

At least no such problems with limit, limit, limit, and limit.

[M4tthi4s91]

There was a problem with “limitless”, but I think it was fixed shortly.

無限 did not accept either limitless or infinite.