Hey there. I recently read somewhere that the vocabulary in WaniKani (that is: around 6000 items?) and the vocabulary in the core 6k deck have an overlap of around 3000 items. I wondered if there is any way to filter for this vocabulary inside WK?
I would like to focus my studies more on commonly used vocabulary and ignore the less commonly used vocabulary + Kanji readings at first (all based on the assumption that the core 6k deck actually somewhat reflects commonly used vocabulary). Would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction .
There is, if you use Torii which is free, there is an option to skip the WaniKani overlap.
You can check / uncheck the box to include or exclude the WaniKani stuff.
Same works in kitsun, as above. Done that with the 10k deck.
First of all, thanks for your advice, I will keep those two tools in mind for my further studies . However, I was looking more for a way to filter for these items within WK, so that I can do my lessons and for each level I could skip the uncommon vocabulary and just do the common vocabulary. The filter I was thinking about should provide some kind of indication (within WK - I want to stay on here at first to keep it simple
) which words are part of the core 6k and which are not. Is there any script that achieves this?
You can technically do WaniKani without ever touching the vocabulary at all.
All thatâs required to level up is to do the radicals to guru and also Kanji to guru.
There are re-order scripts that you could use to completely ignore the Vocab if you wanted to do the core 10k and not do any vocab on WaniKani.
As far as Iâm aware the scripts donât give you enough customization that you can filter each vocabulary, itâs more a case of, all or none.
If you get the Reorder Omega script and set it to âspeed demonâ thatâs how you can skip all vocab, so thatâs another option you have, instead of just trying to filter the WaniKani vocab. (I personally wouldnât recommend it, but if you wanna use other tools for vocab thatâs up to you).
Does âignore the less commonly used vocabulary + kanji readingsâ mean
âignore the less commonly used vocabulary and less commonly used kanji readingsâ
or
âignore the less commonly used vocabulary and all kanji readingsâ?
Either way, there isnât really any way to skip kanji items here. And the kanji readings that are taught via words outside the core 6k words arenât necessarily less common kanji readings. That is to say, they might be readings that appear in other 6k words, just that those words donât appear on WK.
EDIT: Woops, wasnât supposed to be a direct reply.
Itâs ok I saw you lurking so was waiting for your words of wisdom anyway now I got a free notification to see your input hehe since itâs always pretty thoughtful.
Hm ok, thanks . I was aware of the re-ordering, but I hoped for an easy way to basically do the radicals+kanji+every core 6k vocabulary for that particular WK level (while using WK only). This way I would always have common vocabulary with kanji I already learned. But I guess I have to look into one of the external tools you guys mentioned and try to âsync upâ the vocabulary there with my kanji progress in WK if thats possible there
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I meant the former, I wasnt thinking about skipping kanji . I thought about ignoring the readings in the less common vocabulary at first and study them later in combination with words I would stumble upon during immersion or while doing the rest of the core vocabulary.
Not to the very end, no. There was a user that tried and I donât remember at which level they got stopped at, but basically, thereâs a limit on how many lessons you can have in your que and if you only do kanji lessons youâll hit that limit before reaching lv 60.
Not to mention, itâs a pretty daft way of using WK (just my personal opinion) as the vocab lessons is what makes WK great, itâs how kanji readings get hammered into my brain, not the kanji lessons or kanji reviews for sure.
I agree 100%, was just trying to think of solutions to their problem of not wanting to overlap the WK stuff
Now I kinda wanna try go a second round
All the radicals and kanji, and then vocab after reaching lvl 60 again. Unless it is impossible like you said.
speedrun
If you have lifetime, then do it do it do it
Actually donât cause youâll overtake my level extremely quickly from level 1 and thatâll suck.
This begs the question⊠why?
6000 words is the vocabulary of a 5 year old. They are not putting that many esoteric words or pronunciations in the list. Just learn them.
I stated my reason, focus on the common vocabulary (if you want to accept the notion that core 6k vocabulary is the most common) at first and then go on to learn vocabulary in the order I encounter them in contexts that interest me. Nowhere did I state I wanted to only learn the 3k overlapping vocabulary and ignore every other vocabulary I encounter from there on out, so I dont know why you feel the need to reply in such a condecending way.
It wasnât meant to be condescending. To be honest I didnât fully understand the context of your question. (I donât know what the âcore 6K deckâ is. Is it an Anki thing? A JLPT thing?) But I will stick with my original opinion that 6000 is not a lot in the grand scheme and I donât think WK is sticking in that many esoteric words. Even Fugu which people complain about is a very common word, itâs just that itâs rarely written in kanji. And they are not forcing that all possible kanji pronunciations are learned.
The core 6k deck refers to the most commonly used 6,000 words,
which is why this is a bit redundant. Just because a 5 year old has a vocabulary of ~6,000 words doesnât mean that the words they do know arenât useful. They know the most common ones. Thatâs the point of the 6k deck, it teaches people the most common Japanese words so they can communicate with other Japanese speakers. People learning other languages do the exact same thing. When your goal is to speak to other people, itâs about quality, not quantity.
And itâs both, kind of. Thereâs a version made for Anki Iâm pretty sure, and it can be useful for the JLPT, but itâs mostly used to gain conversational fluency.