For me I had to quit wanikani a year ago because it takes too much time learning every vocabulary words that uses the kanji. When following a text book at the same time, now you have two sets of lists of words your uses its too much.
I suggest a filter on your account. So what ever jlpt level you are, that will be the jlpt level you see. And if you are a learner who wants to see everything thing you can change your filter.
That being said I really enjoy using wanikani, I just wish I could learn fluff words when I have master everything else.
The vocabulary is there to reinforce the different readings of kanji. If they were to filter the vocab you learn based on JLPT (the lists out there aren’t even official btw), you would either:
- End up not learning important kanji readings (WK teaches “secondary” readings through vocab), which will then hurt your learning experience on Wanikani.
- Wanikani throwing a bunch of readings at you during the kanji lessons, which would then overwhelm you and hurt your learning.
Tbh, JLPT N5, N4 and N3 wise, there’s a lot on WK that you’ll need. I don’t see a point in filtering anything.
EDIT: I do agree that there’s a lot of less useful vocab, but those are mostly around higher levels. Until level 20/30, I’d say things are very much safe.
Well the argument for no word filtering is pretty much what jpr said, you don’t get to learn some readings and those readings may come in handy later.
However I just want to ask in general, were there some words in particular that popped out as fluff that you wish you could put off till later? This may not be the case for you, but I feel like a lot of people would actually be surprised by how often they come will across certain words. I wont deny some words on WK are far less common than others, but maybe the quantity of “fluff” words is less than what you think.
I only say this because the chances that we will see this change is very slim. At the least, I thought maybe I could change your attitude towards a lot of words you see just in case they aren’t as “fluffy” as you thought them to be.
But yeah, some words like 製鋼 I have definitely never seen and can understand your frustration. I dont doubt learning the word will come in handy eventually, but yeah I definitely had bigger fish I coulda been frying since I already learned the こう reading anyways.
As a replacement for WK is what you’re proposing?
I’m proposing that they can do what they want with Houhou by punching in their textbook’s vocab list (probably wouldn’t take long either). It’s a great way to keep words fresh while you’re studying them. If you input an entire chapters vocab ahead of time and spend a little time studying it in Houhou, then when you read through it you can focus on grammar and sentence meaning and get the most out of it.
Right, I agree houhou could definitely help with learning textbook vocab and recommend he tries it out. I just thought you were proposing it as a fix to the fluff vocab issue he had and was a little confused what you meant.
Oh sorry I misunderstood, actually I do see it as a solution to fluff vocab.
Why not add new words as you encounter them into Houhou?
That way, zero fluff. The words you study are words you’ve seen before and thus are immediately applicable. It takes some micromanaging but I do believe this is the way to get the most out of your learning effort.
It’s an idea. If a student doesn’t believe in the system their using then they’ll get discouraged and lose interest etc. Each person has their own path.
This is a good idea in general and something I have personally done, but he was referring to the fluff vocab wanikani has you learning.
I will take a look. Thank you.
Ok, thank you. I will try to keep up on my wanikani.
I see what you mean when I look back at my list. Fluff is the worng word. Most of the words I will use one day. It just seems some vocabulary would be more useful to know once you have a larger basic core down first.
I have just past the jlpt 4 so wanikani seems more do-able now. But I know when I first started the large list of vocab different to textbooks was overwhelming.
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