三ツ星カラーズ — Week 10 Discussion (ABBC)

[ChristopherFritz]

三ツ星カラーズ Week 10: Pages 71–75

Start Date: 15th of January

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Vital Information

• 納豆(これ)
• 納豆(なっとう)

[jrmr50]

Page 72, Panel 2, Character Yui

What does a trailing 。。つ indicate?

thanks

[omk3]

A small つ on its own at the end of a sentence is equivalent to an exclamation mark, so I’d say: “…!”

[jrmr50]

Page 75, Panel 2, Yui

守られました

I know this is past passive… I’m not that familar with this conjugation, without a full sentence, does it mean they are the recipients of the protecting?\

“We’ve been protected” ?

thanks as ever

[omk3]

It is a full sentence (continued from the previous panel): この街の平和も守られました。
Yes, it’s the past passive: “The peace of this city was also protected”.

[Belthazar]

So, for the remainder of the chapter, they’re sitting here - at the risk of giving away the secrets for how I find these places, the key is the relative positions of the boathouse, Shinobazu-no-Ike Bentendo and the Tokyo Skytree shown in the fourth panel of page 71.

So, did… did Nonoka just wander off after planting the seeds for the world’s destruction?

Love how they protect the peace by simply deciding not to destroy the world. Talk about マッチポンプ…

@omk3

A small つ on its own at the end of a sentence is equivalent to an exclamation mark, so I’d say: “…!”

I kinda wonder if in this instance it represents a sob or a hiccough.

[omk3]

@Belthazar

Love how they protect the peace by simply deciding not to destroy the world.

By heroically giving up their self-appointed mission, they saved the whole mankind. A tough, but noble choice. Epic stuff, really.
Although I was really curious to see how they intended to go about destroying mankind. Was almost looking forward to watching them try.

@Belthazar

マッチポンプ

Cool new word of the day

@Belthazar

I kinda wonder if in this instance it represents a sob or a hiccough.

Oh, entirely possible, given the pathos of the scene.

[Belthazar]

@omk3

Although I was really curious to see how they intended to go about destroying mankind. Was almost looking forward to watching them try.

One step at a time.

@omk3

Cool new word of the day

I learnt it from Yuru Camp.

[pjames43]

This is alluded to in the poll, but what is the deal with page 72 fourth panel: 納豆 with これ for the furigana. Is it simply that she is saying これ and the kanji is 納豆 to make it clear what the “this” is?
I have seen that sort of thing before when reading manga, but I am not sure why it happens.

[ChristopherFritz]

You are correct, that これ is what’s being said, and the kanji is the meaning, letting us know what これ refers to.

[pjames43]

@ChristopherFritz

You are correct, that これ is what’s being said, and the kanji is the meaning, letting us know what これ refers to.

Is that a pretty common thing to see in written Japanese?

[ChristopherFritz]

You’ll see it in various forms, which are all related:

1. Clarification. That’s what we have here. Because この is used in place of a noun, the kanji of the noun was given for clarification. You might also get this where someone says あいつ, and it’s furigana on the person’s name, such as クリス(あいつ). And in this use, you can even have kanji in the furigana, such as モノクロ大佐(カラーズの猫).

2. Meaning for a foreign word. A foreign word might appear as furigana, with the Japanese word for clarification. For example, 迷路(ラビリンス) or exit(出口).

3. Meaning for a made-up word. You’ll see this in things like science fiction stories, or stories where people use special attacks, where they say a made-up word as furigana, and it’s attached to kanji that tells the meaning of the word.

Random Examples

Edit: Just came across another example during my reading today.

[MrGeneric]

It’s also often used for humourous effect, since sometimes the “clarification” is actually explaining or making a joke. The Way of the Househusband relied heavily on this for a lot of it’s jokes.

[ChristopherFritz]

This also works great for homonyms (although this is an example of normal usage).

重(おも)い vs 想(おも)い

[Oceansea]

Just quickly jumping in to say I’m about two weeks behind! Hopefully I’ll find time to catch up over the weekend.

[forme_altere]

I think I understand most sentences, but I’m still somewhat confused by the 2nd half of this chapter. What triggers the crisis?

The girl they met casually remarks that her teacher said that “mankind’s extinction would the best thing that could happen to nature”, and this convinces the 3 girls that their plan to make the pond look nice and clean with natto would destroy humanity? I got it right?

[ChristopherFritz]

Thanks to Nonoka’s teacher, Colors knows the only way to clean the lake is for them to bring about the end of humanity. This leads to their “final meal”, during which Yui realizes while eating the natto that, even though natto smells bad, she likes natto. If it’s okay for something liked to smell bad, then it’s all right if the pond smells bad (since it’s not clean). Thus, Yui determines that Colors should give up on cleaning the pond, which inadvertently saves humanity.

[omk3]

What I find even funnier, is that they still believe that the natto could clean the lake, but Satchan’s mother said not to throw it. So they’re only left with the alternative of destroying mankind as a whole, because destroying mankind is apparently better than disobeying parents, especially for these little angels.

[Belthazar]

@forme_altere

I think I understand most sentences, but I’m still somewhat confused by the 2nd half of this chapter.

I’m pretty sure that even Nonoka would have been confused. If she’d bothered to hang around.