ホリミヤ ・ Horimiya 🎀 👓 Week 7 Discussion Thread (Absolute Beginner Book Club)

Welcome to Week 7 of the Horimiya book club!

We are reading as part of the Absolute Beginner Book Club!

Week 7 October 7 2023
Pages 60 - 69 (58 - 67)
Chapter 2
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The final panel(s) for this week

Vocabulary

ホリミヤ Volume 1 Vocabulary List - Google Sheets

Please read the guidelines on the first page before adding any words.

Please note that this was auto-generated and might need some additional editing, but it should serve as a solid starting point. If you have any questions/doubts, please post them in this thread!

Discussion Guidelines

Spoiler Courtesy

Please follow these rules to avoid inadvertent ネタバレ. If you’re unsure whether something should have a spoiler tag, err on the side of using one.

  1. Any potential spoiler for the current week’s reading need only be covered by a spoiler tag. Predictions and conjecture made by somebody who has not read ahead still falls into this category.
  2. Any potential spoilers for external sources need to be covered by a spoiler tag and include a label (outside of the spoiler tag) of what might be spoiled. These include but are not limited to: other book club picks, other books, games, movies, anime, etc. I recommend also tagging the severity of the spoiler (for example, I may still look at minor spoilers for something that I don’t intend to read soon).
  3. Any information from later in the book than the current week’s reading (including trigger warnings that haven’t yet manifested) needs to be hidden by spoiler tags and labeled as coming from later sections.
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Handwritten text this week

Note: Physical book pages are listed in parentheses.

Pg. 60 (58)

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ありがとうございましたーっ

Pg. 62 (60)

丁度よかった

Pg. 67 (65)

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堀: まぁいいか

創太: うまーっ

Pg. 69 (67)

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堀: あ、リンゴジュース

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堀: ちょーだいー

宮村: あああっ

由紀: なーんか…

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Congratulations everyone for making it through the longest week last week! This week is much shorter and easier, so a nice break for those who made it all the way through, or a solid catch-up opportunity for those who might still be reading last week’s!

Either way, just remember that the in-between chapter slot falls in this week, instead of the start of next!

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Chapter spoilers BRO I COMPLETELY FORGOT HER FIRST GIFT TO HER WAS A RIIIIIIINGGGGGG WHAT THE FUUUUUCCKKKKK THESE KIDSSSSSS

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I mean, I can relate to that, though, personally :joy:

I have to work this weekend so I’ll be a bit late with my pages this week! :cry:

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Page 60

本当に出来てる
It really was built

オシャレでかわいいなぁ
It’s cute by being stylish

人結構入ってる
It’s fine to enter by person (idk if this is correct)

Page 61

気がして
I feel like Hori

知り合い?
Your acquaintance?

なんで?この前部活があって行けなかったから?
I can’t make sense of this sentence, something like “because I was able to go to this front life?”

あーでもなんか 違うみたい
Ah nothing, looks like it’s wrong

あんな地味じゃないって言うか
I say it’s not plain like that (I can’t get this sentence too)

じゃあ行こっか
Then let’s go

それにしても地味しかったね
nevertheless it was plain huh

よかったじゃないこれで
isn’t this was good

創太の面倒見なきゃ出し
I have to take care of Souta

What’s 出し? I know this is the must form and the verb after なければ have similar meaning to いけません and になりません but this is the first time i see 出し

友達と遊びに行く時間なんてないから仕方がない
Since there’s no time to go play with friends, it can’t be helped

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p60

This means “It’s stylish and cute”

The で you are seeing here is the て form of だ. And as you might remember, the て form is the conjunctive form, connecting sentences. So this is basically “It’s stylish and it’s cute-being (since い adjective)”

This is trying to mean “There are a lot of people inside”.
入る can be “to contain”, and 結構 here is “quite a bit”. “It has quite a bit of people” is how I’d parse it.

p61

気がする is “to feel like” in the sense of “to have a hunch”. “I just felt like that’s the case”.
Here she’s saying “I thought that (I saw her)”

The sentence breaks into words like this:
この前 - before this/last time
部活 - club

あって - was
行けなかった - didn’t go
から?- because
“Why? Because she couldn’t go last time because of her club?”
Or something like that, not gonna lie, not exactly sure how this fits into the events shown.

Important here, “It looks like I was wrong/mistaken”

This is “She isn’t plain like that (I’d say)”. As in “Hori wouldn’t be dressing that plainly”, so it must not be her.

You misread, that’s 美味しかった

This is trying to say “It’s better this way”

It’s very important, that it’s not 出し, it’s だし. It’s だ, + the reason particle し. It’s a common pairing for saying “because”.

It’s technically correct, but actually translating 遊ぶ to “to play” in these scenarios will sound weird really quickly. It’s more like “to hang out”

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Ahh thank you, I misread several place. But 行けなかった - didn’t go, isn’t it the ない form of 行く is 行かない?

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p61

You are right, it’s actually 行く + potential + negative + past tense, so “Couldn’t go”, which is what I put into the translation, not sure why I didn’t do the same in the breakdown.

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It’s a cold open sort of thing, not something that’s “in between” chapters. We’re straight-up reading the first page of the next chapter.

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Page 62

あれ今日来るって言ってたっけ?
Did you say you will come today?

What is っけ? Based on context I think it’s the question marker, but what’s the unshortened form of it? Also why does Hori use past continuous tense here, like “were you saying you will come today” which sounds unnatural instead of 言ったか?

ちょっと渡すものがあって来ただけだから
It’s only because I have things to hand over.

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p62

https://jlptsensei.com/learn-japanese-grammar/っけ-kke-meaning/

Roughly speaking, it’s asking for confirmation about what the speaker is asking. Sometimes it’s a lot like the English “, was it?” sentence ending, though not here.

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These past couple of weeks have made me realize that I don’t have a not understanding Japanese problem, but I have a not understanding who in the world is talking problem :sweat_smile:

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That is something which afflicts me even now, sometimes. It gets better with time and practice, though!

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context to events shown

Yuki and friends where supposed to go there “the other day” (when they invited hori, but she couldn’t go because of her brother). So Hori thought there would not be any of her friends there (which is why she went to check it out, I guess). Now she is suprised, to meet Yuki there.

So your translation fits perfectly into the context.

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You are not alone, I always get lost on who’s saying what. Also sometimes I confuse thoughts with actual speech :melting_face:

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p.69

堀狙いの奴は結構いるって覚悟はしていた。
Attempt: Hori is focusing a lot on this guy. I was prepared for it.

I don’t understand this sentence. Is this coming from Tooru’s perspective?

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p69 (nice)

There’s a missing を (maybe)
堀(を)狙い奴ら - guys going for Hori
結構いるって - that there will be lots
覚悟はしていた - (basically) I prepared myself

I prepared myself that there would be a lot of guys going after Hori

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p69 (niceee)

I think 堀狙い is just being treated as a compound word here. For example, 魚狙いの猫 or something like that. I think it’s just a different way of phrasing 〇〇を狙ってる誰々.

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oooh :smiley:
I just learned a word! :smiley:
I think 誰々 might become my new favourite word :smiley: love it! :smiley:
(thank you! :D)

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