ドラゴンボールSD (Dragon Ball SD) · Volume 5 Discussion 🐉

[Phryne]

Volume 5 discussion thread

Start date: 28 August

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Schedule

Start date	Chapter	Page numbers	Page count
28 Aug	39 - クリリン vs どどん波‼	5-22	18
4 Sep	40 - 実力伯仲!!!	23-40	18
11 Sep	41 - 孫悟空 vs クリリン!!!	41-58	18
18 Sep	42 - 天下一のハイパーバトル‼	59-76	18
25 Sep	43 - 最後の決戦! 優勝は…!?	77-94	18
2 Oct	44 - 兄と再会?! そして…	95-112	18
9 Oct	45 - 孫悟飯とプッコロ大魔王	113-130	18
16 Oct	46 - 界王さまと荒修行!	131-148	18
23 Oct	47 - サイヤ人、ついに襲来‼	149-166	18
30 Oct	48 - 戦士たちの死闘!!!	167-183	17
6 Nov	Bonus	184-189	6

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[Micki]

Volume 5!

I didn’t realise until now that Tenshinhan’s name 天津飯 means “crab omelette on rice”… Fits nicely with his friend Chaozu whose kanji can be read as Gyoza!

Pages 5-6

There’s a significant cut in the action here. In the original Tenshinhan deflects the Kamehameha back towards Yamcha who dodges it. They then battle in mid-air and Yamcha get’s thrown to the ground losing consciousness. Tenshinhan then continues to attack despite the fact Yamcha is unconscious, breaking Yamcha’s leg.

I love the way these two pages are set out, with this huge build up on page 5, and then when you turn the page Yamcha is lying defeated on the floor. It is a little confusing though if you’ve not read the original!

On page 6 middle right panel the man’s comment is a new addition. He says:

デッサンが狂ってるわけじゃないよな…？

デッサン is translated in Jisho as “rough sketch” and typing デッサン into wikipedia gets redirected to the page for 素描 (drawing). It also sounds a bit like “design”.

狂う is taught on Wanikani as “to go mad” but can also mean “to get out of order, to malfunction, to go wrong (of a plan or expectation, etc.), to get mixed up​”.

At first I thought he was saying “Did the design (of Yamcha’s plan) go wrong?”, but looking again I think he’s saying “Did the drawing get mixed up…?”

I also like the page 22 illustration of Yamcha on his crutches complaing his scene was cut!

[Shisckatchegg]

天津飯 means “crab omelette on rice”… Fits nicely with his friend Chaozu whose kanji can be read as Gyoza!

I actually was intrigued about the Kanji we see used for the names of the characters. I assumed they are Chinese names and hence their pronounciation is foreign to Japanese? But thinking about it, I guess it makes sense their names are food based, following the trend in the series. Still kind of wondered where their pronounciation comes from…

Pages 5-6

Yeah absolutely, I think the idea of skipping the climax after the buildup of the previous chapter has a great comedic effect.

[Phryne]

Poor Yamcha can never catch a break

This caught my interest. I’ve seen this in a couple of manga, it must be the standard way Japanese kids learn their left from their right. It’s really clever! Do we have anything similar in the west? I guess we can say ‘left’ is the hand with which you can make an L with your index finger and thumb.

What did you make of あれじゃうかつにせめられないじゃないか?

[Micki]

I got - up there he [adverb] can’t be attacked

But none of the Jisho meanings for うかつ quite seemed to fit!

[Phryne]

@Micki

But none of the Jisho meanings for うかつ quite seemed to fit!

That’s the problem I ran into as well, I just couldn’t make it work.

I asked on HiNative and this is what I got:

うかつに（迂闊に）＝不用意に、用心せずに、気を付けないで

I guess it can also mean ‘carefree’, not just ‘careless’.

[Phryne]

Week 2

Start date: 4 Sep
Pages: 23-40

How is the reading going?

• I am reading along
• I am catching up
• I am dropping this book 🙅🏼

[Micki]

I love that everyone else underestimates the other fighters but Goku always recognises their skills…

Page 30
どっちが勝ってもおかしくはねぇ

From context I think it means “It’s unclear which one will win”. I assume this is just the normal word おかしい with a slightly different meaning to what is listed in Jisho.

Page 33
このわしもマジにならざるをえんようじゃのう

I’ve gone for this grammar as being ざるを得ない, but with the えない shortened to えん in casual speech. From the source below: “This grammar is used when there’s something that just can’t be helped and must be done.”

So translation - I have to get serious!

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/feasibility.html

[Phryne]

I had trouble with the exact same sentences! I agree with your conclusion regarding page 33.

For this one:

どっちが勝ってもおかしくはねぇ

I reckoned it’s something like:

Even if either of them wins, it wouldn’t be strange.
➝ Either one of them could well win.

For me there were two jokes/references I didn’t quite get.

Page 27

What’s the deal with Chiaotzu saying he learned arithmetic for this day? Is it a joke about his general uselessness at day to day skills, or does it refer to some specific event?

Page 34

Does she mean it’s definitely not that attack…? Or does 絶対違う refer to something else?

[Phryne]

Week 3

Start date: 11 Sep
Pages: 41-58

How is the reading going?

• I am reading along
• I am catching up
• I am dropping this book 🙅🏼

[Micki]

@Phryne

For this one:

どっちが勝ってもおかしくはねぇ

I see, you are translating the おかしくはねぇ as negative. I’d been reading it as おかしく - adverb form.

@Phryne

What’s the deal with Chiaotzu saying he learned arithmetic for this day?

In the original Kuririn distracts Chiaotzu with some basic arithmetic questions - it’s quite a funny scene:

Summary

@Phryne

Does she mean it’s definitely not that attack…? Or does 絶対違う refer to something else?

I agree it’s not clear what’s going on in this panel. I assume she’s replying to the man not Oolong, so I guess she is saying definitely not that attack.

[Micki]

Chapter 41 - I found this a tougher week to read even though I enjoyed the battles!

Page 42
おぬしそれほどの技をなぜ正しき道に使わぬのじゃ！

Your skills are that impressive, why don’t you use them for good!

正しき道 doesn’t appear in Jisho. I assume it’s a combination of 正しい= “correct” and 軌道="(right) track, proper course." From this link 正しき道を歩む translates as “walk the path of righteousness”.

Page 51
Puar says: …ボ…ボキ…って…！？
Perhaps ボキャ貧 - “lacking the words to say what one means​”.
And Bulma’s response - いってないわよ - “Don’t say it” ??
I feel like I’m on the wrong track here. This is a new panel not in the original manga.

Also on page 51 Yamcha looks like he’s being treated in a Pokemon Centre! Or perhaps all Japanese nurses look like that in cartoons!

[Phryne]

@Micki

正しき道 doesn’t appear in Jisho. I assume it’s a combination of 正しい= “correct” and 軌道="(right) track, proper course." From this link 正しき道を歩む translates as “walk the path of righteousness”.

Cheers for the link! I got the gist of it from the Japanese, but it always bothers me if I can’t find a reference.

@Micki

Page 51
Puar says: …ボ…ボキ…って…！？
Perhaps ボキャ貧 - “lacking the words to say what one means​”.
And Bulma’s response - いってないわよ - “Don’t say it” ??
I feel like I’m on the wrong track here. This is a new panel not in the original manga.

“Did it say ‘snap’?!”
“It didn’t”

Which also makes sense as a reference to Yamcha’s miserable experience with that move

Page 53
〜なんてもんじゃない gave me some trouble. I found this explanation useful.

Also, I loved this panel:

[Micki]

Yes “snap”! That makes sense when you link it to Yamcha’s injury!

Thanks for the なんてもんじゃない link - so in context Kuririn is saying - “Goku is too strong”. I think I’d glossed over this.

Lots of great panels. I’m not on a digital version so not so easy to share, but loved the final panel with Kuririn thrilled by his (apparent) victory!

[Felicibus]

Hey I’m gonna be a real prick here and since this is a dragon ball thread Imma ask something real quick

How many ovas/movies/big-episodes (you get what I mean) does dragon ball classic have and are all of them canon?

ok thanks

[Phryne]

Week 4

Start date: 18 Sep
Pages: 59-76

How is the reading going?

• I am reading along
• I am catching up
• I am dropping this book 🙅🏼

[Micki]

Chapter 42

戦闘用のパワー!!

Favourite panel - Goku does some weird things with his eyes but this takes real skill…

Page 61
Krillin says something like - Is this also an act to make you more likeable/popular? Did anyone get why he’s saying that?

[Phryne]

@Micki

Page 61
Krillin says something like - Is this also an act to make you more likeable/popular? Did anyone get why he’s saying that?

When I first read it I assumed he meant that Goku was playing it up again, to make himself look less threatening… but now that I am thinking about it, I am not sure that actually makes sense for 好感度

Page 69

What’s Krillin talking about, specifically…?

Page 74

“I didn’t know, because you didn’t go bam bam”…? I feel like I am missing the joke here.

[Micki]

@Phryne

“I didn’t know, because you didn’t go bam bam”…? I feel like I am missing the joke here.

Goku’s not very good at telling boys and girls apart early in the story so he has a feel of their crotch to find out. This is Goku’s パンパン - I think it was translated as patpat in the English translation. He’s asking if Ten is a girl because he used girly speech - because he’s not done his patpat he’s can’t be sure.

@Phryne

What’s Krillin talking about, specifically…?

I took it as - “Are you too having a go at me…”

[Phryne]

Week 5

Start date: 25 Sep
Pages: 77-94

How is the reading going?

• I am reading along
• I am catching up
• I am dropping this book 🙅🏼