🗡 ジョジョの奇妙な冒険 Book Club ファントムブランド第8: タルカスと黒騎士ブラフォード・ Tarkus and the Dark Knight Bruford 🗡

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Each week, the first post about the week’s reading will be linked in the schedule. The first link will always be this thread’s first post.

Date # Chapter Title (original・bunko)
2024.06.24 26 暗黒の騎士達・タルカスと黒騎士ブラフォード その 1
2024.07.01 27 過去からの復讐鬼・タルカスと黒騎士ブラフォード その 2
2024.07.08 28 77輝輪の勇者・タルカスと黒騎士ブラフォード その 3
2024.07.15 29 黒騎士の呪縛・タルカスと黒騎士ブラフォード その 4
2024.07.24 30 英雄として瞑る
2024.07.29 31 騎士たちの遺跡
2024.08.05 32 双首竜の間・中世騎士殺人修練場


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Chapter 26: 暗黒の騎士達・タルカスと黒騎士ブラフォード その 1 Questions
  • What reason does Dio give for fighting with JoJoたち?
  • What does Dio compare hamon to? How many puns/various meanings of 吹く can you find here? What are they?
  • What does Dio tell his minions to do?
  • What does Speedwagon offer to do? Where did he learn about this technique?
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Chapter 27:過去からの復讐鬼・タルカスと黒騎士ブラフォード その 2 Questions
  • What is scary about the difference between Jonathan and Tarkus to Speedwagon?
  • Does the layout of the panels on the fifth and sixth pages remind you of anything?
  • Summarize the mix of real and fake history in this chapter (if you don’t understand it, please feel free to just request the answer from me. You can do this at any time for any question btw.)

I hate this chapter so much. That took 3h with the lookups and recording every ふたり to 2人 change in the text

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Started reading with this chapter! Didn’t want to be 26 chapters behind everyone else lol

Questions
  1. He comments on the size difference between Jonathan and his sword, as well as commenting on Tarkus’ strange hair and mentioning that he’s not like the zombies they fought in the tunnel.
  2. I honestly don’t know I started with this chapter LOL
  3. I don’t know much about English history, but I do know a bit about how Mary Queen of Scots and Elizabeth I and how Elizabeth I ordered Mary to be executed, but that’s about it. In terms of fake history I’m guessing everything involving the two knights.
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Hey hey hey! Welcome! The older chapters won’t get deleted, so you can always go back to them if you want too :sunglasses:

Chapter 26
  1. Yep! Although the hair is Bruford, not Tarkus
  2. Ah, it’s not a callback to anything in JoJo, but rather, easier if you’re familiar with European history?

About 5 pages from the end (191), there are also two panels that resemble a sword
I can’t imagine it wasn’t intentional

  1. Yep!! lol
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Ohhh I see. Lol I always get them mixed up. Thanks for typing up the discussion questions, they were fun!!

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No problem! I’m glad to hear you enjoy them :slight_smile:

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I don’t think I’ll finish this chapter before I should go to bed, so I’ll probably post this week’s questions during my Tuesday morning :sweat_smile:

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Chapter 28: 77輝輪の勇者・タルカスと黒騎士ブラフォード その 3 Questions
  • What does Dio think of Bruford attacking the zombie?
  • Here is the page for Danse Macabre in Japanese, how does the reference differ from Bruford’s move?
  • What did Bruford do to become a knight?
  • What is Dio’s plan for Windknight’s Lot? And in Great Britain?
  • What disadvantages or handicaps do JoJo and Bruford face in their fight?
  • How do George’s words about Danny relate to the fight at hand?
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Chapter 29: 黒騎士の呪縛・タルカスと黒騎士ブラフォード その 4 Questions
  • What surprises JoJo about these 2 zombies, Bruford and Tarkus, that Dio has just resurrected?
  • How is Bruford’s hair like a certain plant? Why does this prevent the transfer of hamon?
  • What happens the more and more JoJo struggles?
  • What animals does JoJo compare Bruford/his situation to and why?

no gifs or song this week, sorry

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Chapter 30: 英雄として瞑る Questions
  • What does hamon sound like according to Speedwagon?
  • How do zombies make more zombies?
  • Why did JoJo and Bruford stop fighting?
  • What comparison does Speedwagon make of the change in Bruford’s face? I feel like it says a lot about speedweed lol
  • What feeling does Bruford have upon realizing what’s happening? Where does he say he is going to go? What meanings does 旅立とう contain? (check the vocab sheet for a cheat, heh)
  • Do you notice anything about Tarkus’s speech pattern? As a hint, we’ve seen many of the words he uses before.
  • What danger is Zeppeli in and how does he avoid it? also did you catch mustacheless zep?

New song references will come eventually. So for now, please enjoy more Led Zeppelin while I try not to exhaust all of it too early

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Content Warning: major gore

Chapter 31: 騎士たちの遺跡 Questions
  • On page 1 of the chapter, Poco ends one of his statements with だってば, which is famously used by a character in another franchise. Do you know which character?
  • What do the other boys think of Poco’s story?
  • How do they want to punish him and what do they joke will happen?
  • What is Tarkus’ goal?
  • Who needs the most therapy after that?
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I just noticed this bookclub was going on, and since I’ve already watched the anime for the first parts I figured I might as well just join now and then catch up on the reading of the previous chapters. I gotta say though, the difference in character designs is really striking, specially on Zeppeli (he looks completely different!!)

On the questions
  • I assume you are talking of だってばよ by :fish_cake:
  • They didn’t believe him at all
  • And they wanted to hang him for treason over the graves of the knights
  • Me
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Still behind by a little bit, but I got caught up to when Bruford is defeated at the end of my second volume!

Chapter 26

These panel shapes are pretty cool! I noticed them and felt like they really fit the historical narrative, but couldn’t quite put my finger on why. Another interesting thing is that the panels with the historical flashbacks have ragged edges, I think with the intent of making them look like old paper.

Chapter 29

Even though they’re being controlled by Dio, they still retain their memories and personality traits from before, like their sense of chivalry and pride.

It moves through “turgor pressure” (had to look up what this was). Since hamon can only be transferred out of hands and feet, JoJo can’t use hamon while his hands and feet are bound up by the hair.

The stronger the hair gets :fearful:

He compares Bruford first to an octopus and then to a snake strangling a mouse. Both descriptions, and the situation, kinda freaked me out!

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Hell yeah! Enjoy the journey. Where are you at in the anime?

Excellent answers :fish_cake:

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Re chapter 26, that’s a great catch!! It really does add to the atmosphere

Chapter 29

It’s a pretty stark contrast to the policeman zombies and the other Windknight’s Lot zombies, isn’t it?

Yes and no, the line is「手や足など」, and など like “etc” so other things would work. I’m thinking lips and the tongue too could work. The problem is that hamon requires blood flow and Bruford is squeezing Jonathan too tightly for sufficient blood flow.

Yep yep

Ahhh, like the squeezing/choking aspect? There’s a lot of moments like that in JoJo ngl, like once or twice a part. I’m not sure if Araki’s into it or what. I can try to remember to add content warnings for it if you’d like?

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Chapter 29

You can if you want, but don’t worry about it! Some of the body horror stuff definitely makes me feel like :fearful: but it’s handleable. The mouse contemplating their impending death made me sad :smiling_face_with_tear:

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Chapter 32: 双首竜の間・中世騎士殺人修練場 Questions
  • What connections to the mask does younger Zeppeli draw to the healing man?
  • I wonder if the point of telling Zeppeli to specifically go 上流へ上流へ is a reference to the carp myth. If you didn’t know, the carp myth is that a koi who successfully swims up a waterfall will become a dragon (this is why magikarp becomes gyrados too btw).
  • What does Tonpetty’s (Araki chosen English spelling) speech patterns reveal about his character? What sets his speech apart from other characters?
  • What’s on Zeppeli’s mind?
  • Anyone else feel like they’ve seen more of Tarkus than they needed/wanted to?
  • How does Zeppeli plan to proceed? What happens? How does he adjust?

Sorry it’s late!!

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The cake on page 98 is too much to bear

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If you only noticed cake, it sounds like your eyes are better off than mine.

Weren’t codpieces out of style by then?

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rip I only now remembered it’s time for a new thread

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