Today’s Lessons & Lesson Picker

[CapitalB]

wow, i went from 130 lessons down to 15 without having to do any work! damn i’m good

[ale7714]

A bit disconcerting to see the change happen between lessons but love this new option! thank you

[durteloni]

@Lichwarri

This is perfect so I can keep my pace

Is that really so, though? Levelling up is still dependent on guru-ing the kanji. So we may keep our pace in terms of number of lessons per day, but depending on how many kanjis we get per lesson, our levelling up pace might be affected.

I like that the Aligatorithm™ was unleashed together with the lesson picker.

[tofugu-scott]

@MikeyDC65

I’m a stats oriented person, so I do miss being able to easily see how many lessons I have left to reach 0 at a quick glance though! I recognize I’m very likely a small minority in that regard.

I also know it’s possible to hit advanced and then select all on the various types to see the counts, so there is still a way, even if it’s a little more more work. I’ll probably just create myself a little script to add that information back.

Just a heads up! When you have no more unlocked lessons to do, the advance button will not show up and you will see a different message. That doesn’t answer your “how many lessons do I have left overall” question, but just thought I should point out that when you have none left the “Today’s Lessons” section will let you know.

[ditove555]

I love this! The huge lessons piles always overwhelmed me, and this is so much more manageable. Great idea!

[seanblue]

Hey @tofugu-scott, any plans to further enhance the advanced lesson picker to auto-pick based on certain criteria? e.g. specify that you want to learn 3 radicals, 4 kanji, and 8 vocab and just click a single button from there.

[taiyousea]

me and the homies all love LESSON PICKER

[hanabichan]

Thanks for this update! I’ve been stuck on level 33 for ages because I had an overwhelming amount of lessons to do during a time when I was inundated with work and study demands but I’ve recently picked up again and I expect to reach 34 soon! (Finally!)

[Hoorisama]

Hmm, guys why now? I would have loved to have this feature when I started

Jokes aside, it´s a very good feature. Good job!

Btw: This is how I envisioned adding the rest of the JLPT and Jouyou Kanji + 10000 most used words should be done. After finishing lvl 60 you can pick or not pick the items you want to learn for the advanced lesson picker.

[nootnootnoot]

@Biffers

So let’s so my lesson batch is 3 and I do my recommended lessons every day, but not Advanced. How long will it take for me to reach level 60?

According to the last FAQ on the announcement, the maximum number of recommended daily lessons is three times your batch size. So you’d get 9 lessons a day.

wkstats.com says there are currently 9,226 items on WaniKani. Assuming you have 9 available lessons every day, then, it would take you at least (9226 items) / (9 items / day) / (365 days / year) = 2.8 years to do every lesson.

This doesn’t account for the time it would take to get those items to Guru. If you constantly get all your reviews wrong, it’ll take longer. I also don’t know how different kinds of items are mixed in exactly; if you get really unlucky and don’t unlock a radical you need until you’ve completed all other available lessons, that would add a couple days. (On the other hand, to “reach level 60” you technically just need to unlock the level 60 items, which you do by Guru-ing 90% of the kanji each in levels 1-59. So you could get there a lot faster if the Alligatorithm™️ never showed you any vocab items.)

Incidentally, the default lesson batch size is 5, isn’t it? So on default settings it now takes at least (9226 items) / (15 items / day) / (365 days / year) = 1.69 years to do every lesson. WaniKani may need to update the part of their homepage where it says you’ll finish “In just over a year.”

[pabbles]

Alright I’m gonna be the guy…

Is there a way for old grumps like me to bring back things like we’ve gotten used to?

edit: nvm saw the picker in Advanced, we good… I think

editedit: wait no this time it’s actually better than the old way. Thanks!

editeditedit: though yeah keeping the full number of remaining lessons around somewhere would be nice

[tofugu-scott]

@seanblue

Hey @tofugu-scott, any plans to further enhance the advanced lesson picker to auto-pick based on certain criteria? e.g. specify that you want to learn 3 radicals, 4 kanji, and 8 vocab and just click a single button from there.

We have ideas about the future of the Lesson Picker, but as you know we don’t like to talk about features that might not eventuate. I presume you have asked for this as a feature request by sending an email to hello@wanikani.com?! If not please do submit your idea so that it can be taken into consideration with any future changes to the Lesson Picker page.

[machinaeZER0]

• I guess I’ll find out tomorrow either way, but as someone who does batches of five: if I do one batch of five items for the day (instead of the 15 it’s offering me now), how many lessons will I have tomorrow? Will it just go back to 15 items? Will I have 25 waiting for me?
• What time of day do lessons replenish under this new system?
• Is this going to break Smouldering Durtles?

The change seems a bit odd after a year of doing content in order (radical > kanji > vocab), but I guess we’ll see how it goes Not learning radicals first feels particularly odd since they were always the building blocks for shape recognition. Starting simple with radicals is sort of what got me hooked on Wanikani in the first place!

[seanblue]

I have not emailed to ask for this feature given I haven’t used WaniKani in several years. It’s more that allowing that type of input (and shuffling) would get WaniKani to full parity with my Lesson Filter script and I’m trying to decide whether to bother updating the new Lesson Picker to have this functionality via my script or not.

As always, I prefer those who still actively use WaniKani to send formal requests via email and all that. I was just hoping for some hint about whether this is in the works so I know whether I’d be wasting my time updating the script…

[onesteadyguy]

What happens if I don’t do any lessons on a particular day???

[tofugu-scott]

@machinaeZER0

• I guess I’ll find out tomorrow either way, but as someone who does batches of five: if I do one batch of five items for the day (instead of the 15 it’s offering me now), how many lessons will I have tomorrow? Will it just go back to 15 items? Will I have 25 waiting for me?

You will have 15 tomorrow.

@machinaeZER0

• What time of day do lessons replenish under this new system?

Midnight in your local timezone, so it will be different for everyone.

@machinaeZER0

• Is this going to break Smouldering Durtles?

As Smouldering Durtles is a third party app I can’t say what will or wont break. However I don’t see any reason that this new feature should have any impact on Smouldering Durtles.

@machinaeZER0

The change seems a bit odd after a year of doing content in order (radical > kanji > vocab), but I guess we’ll see how it goes Not learning radicals first feels particularly odd since they were always the building blocks for shape recognition. Starting simple with radicals is sort of what got me hooked on Wanikani in the first place!

Just to clarify, You will always learn a radical before encountering a kanji that uses it. Same goes for the vocabulary and kanji relationship. The difference now is that if you have a mix of lower level vocabulary and higher level radicals unlocked, we will add a at least one radical into your lesson queue just to keep things fresh. More detail provided on this in the announcement.

[tofugu-scott]

@onesteadyguy

What happens if I don’t do any lessons on a particular day???

They will just be waiting for you tomorrow. The daily limit does not compound day to day. If you have 15 today and don’t do any, you will still have 15 tomorrow. The daily limit counter resets each day.

See my other answer here that pretty much says the same thing.

[Ted]

i like this feature - literally just installed reorder omega last week after a little over a year of vanilla.

thx

[Biffers]

Nice! Thank you for taking the time to write that detailed answer. I appreciate it!

[dennis_b]

Great improvements. Thanks!