🎨 This Art Club has a Problem! (BBC) - Week 4

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Week 4 December 23th 2023
Start Page 59
End Page 80
Chapters Chapter 3, first half
Pages 21
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This week, we read the first half of chapter 3, until this panel

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Some grammar points for this week:

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Page 68

The mix of katakana and hiragana really made finding this word, テレかくし, a lot more difficult than it needed to be. I kept getting a whole bunch of television / telecast related results… :sweat_smile:

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My computer autocompleted to 照れ隠し when I typed it into jisho which I recognised as being a bit more appropriate for the situation, but I will say this book’s fonts and lack of furigana clarity is not really helping my general opinion of it

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Autocomplete was how I finally got there as well once I stopped thinking about separate character sets. I’m reading the physical book so the furigana quality is good however I still struggle a bit with the clarity of the handwritten parts so I can imagine they would be pretty much unreadable in the digital versions.

Can’t really put my finger on why but I did find this weeks reading a little more interesting than the last couple.

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Page 71

I’m guessing that 受け身 here refers to the martial arts term - the art of falling safely? I.e. she is saying - do you think you can do a judo style fall and roll safely even (if I throw you) from this height?


Page 74 - he is referring to the “parable of the three arrows”.

Fun fact - the sumo wrestling brothers Wakatakakage, Wakamotoharu, and Wakatakamoto are named after the three sons from this parable.

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I had heard of this, though my mind jumped straight to Aesop’s fables,I think. /Edit though on reflection that’s incorrect? I wonder where I’ve heard the bundle of reeds monomyth before

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There’s a similar idea in the bible - Ecclesiastes 4:12

Though one may be overpowered,
two can defend themselves.
A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.

It feels like an idea that may have arisen separately in different cultures, or been repeated in different stories.

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Fun fact: the word “fascism” comes from the same idea. The term was derived from the name of the National Fascist Party (in Italian, Partito Nazionale Fascista), which, via a number of intermediary steps, comes from “fasces”, the Latin for “bundle”. Just as a single stick can be easily broken, a bundle of sticks cannot, and so if the people band together, they will not easily be defeated.

Apes together strong, sort of thing.

And of course Andy Serkis demostrated the concept as he delivered the line.

Though I bet I could break three arrows about as easily as I could break one…

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Page 78

In the third panel, it seems strange that when the 部長 says 美術部, there’s furigana for the first and third characters, like ウー術ーチ. And, in the prior panel, he (I think) mispronounced 内巻’s name as (ウ)リマ(チ)… Is there some connection between these 2?

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It’s a common thing for manga and novels. When the furigana and the kanji don’t match, that usually means that the character said what’s in the furigana out loud, so in this case “うち” or “us/we”, while meaning what the kanji means, in this case 美術部. So this whole thing is there for you to know, that when he says “we”, he means “the art club”.

Another well known example of this would be Fullmetal Alchemist, where for example mechanic prostethics get the furigana オートメイル and the kanji 機械鎧, but fantasy series like to use this to explain their spells or whatever as well.

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Aye, what @Gorbit99 said. But just to make one other small thing clear, the furigana isn’t on the first and third kanji, but rather spaced out across all three. It might be a bit subtle when the page length of the furigana is so short compared to the kanji, but note the difference in spacing between these two:

← furigana on first and third
美術部ウチ ← furigana across all three

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Week 5 is live, come finish Chapter 3 :slight_smile:

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To add to what the others have said, I don’t think there’s a connection between these two. I think the second one is just 部長 forgetting Uchimaki’s name, because he’s a self-absorbed scatterbrain.

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