Reflections on 55 weeks to lvl60

I decided to take on learning Japanese as a significant hobby starting in the late summer of 2024 due to having a fairly significant gap between jobs. I found myself with lot of free time that I wanted to fill with something that I felt was both meaningful and that I could use to set structure and goals with my time.

After using Duolingo to learn the kana over the course of a few days (and then hiding away the app), I researched a number of different online offerings for kanji and gave Wanikani’s trial levels a shot. I enjoyed the slick interface as well as the double-sided required correct input review process, which I think has instilled significantly deeper retention versus standard usage of Anki flashcards (I know that there is near-infinite customizability possible with Anki if you really get into it but I liked that WK just provided a nice pre-rolled product) or multiple choice apps. I went on a monthly subscription and promptly purchased the lifetime subscription when it went on sale at the end of 2024.

For the most part, my usage of WK has been fairly stock; the only custom third-party script I utilized was Jitai in order to get exposure to more esoteric or artistic fonts. Probably about half of my reviews were done on the Tsurukame iOS app, of which I didn’t utilize any of the custom features with one exception (which I will mention in the discussion of the fast levels later in this post). As a mobile interface for WK I found it really quite excellent (and free to use on top of your subscription) and helped me a lot with flexibly keeping up with reviews while not at home.

I found myself to be in quite a sweet spot for Wanikani; I had no previous kanji or Japanese knowledge so there was no wasted time in the beginning (as the SRS is strict and you cannot skip forward) and I also was willing to consistently put in 30-60 minutes daily on it, spread across a few different times over the course of the day. I can definitely see how it would be less efficient to start for someone who has already acquired some Japanese learning already.

After deciding to go through with the program, I set a goal to go as fast as I reasonably could and to see if I could stick with it. In the end I was able to achieve fairly close to that. I see that some people have achieved reaching lvl60 in as low as 350 days; it wound up being around 380 for me.

The late ā€˜fast’ levels (43+) were tough as they effectively doubled the quantity of work; in order to keep leveling up as quickly as possible, this amounted to roughly 35 lessons a day to keep the work about uniform over time. The content in later levels is also more abstract and uncommon compared to earlier which compounds the mental work here; I would generally not recommend this speed of progression unless one had the same degree of free time and flexibility as I did.

Starting around the end of July this year, daily reviews (which I had estimated before, but the newly released heat map dashboard makes it easy to confirm) went from around 180 to 350 or so. I enabled the feature in the Tsurukame app to order reviews by ascending SRS stage in order to keep the speed at which I was progressing through new kanji as fast as possible, as I wouldn’t always have the time to zero out my reviews at the start of the day. I did set the goal of (and mostly achieved) going to bed each day with zero to-do reviews.

Looking back, I am extremely happy with what the app has done for me probably through the late-40 levels. After that I think the gains have been quite diminishing; most of the kanji and vocab in the later levels are much less common and there are a lot of names, very formal words, and medical vocab that I imagine are going be a lot less useful for me who is just targeting ability to speak and understand commonly used Japanese (although perhaps I will be proven wrong in the near future!). Regardless, I decided I’d push ahead even though it was probably no longer the most efficient usage of my time because I wanted to reach the milestone of completion, so this would up being probably about of month of time that, were I trying to be max efficient, I could have dedicated more to immersion listening and reading. As a personal aside, I did quite enjoy when I’d occasionally finally get a kanji writing for a common term that is usually written in kana (恆悋恕恄 in level 60 is the most recent one in my memory).

Overall thoughts on Wanikani? My experiences were overall very positive for my usecase. As for criticisms however, like I mentioned earlier I can certainly see how the inflexibility of the SRS would make some of the process quite inefficient for someone with some prior knowledge. It wasn’t a huge deal for me but I know the lack of an undo ability is another common complaint; I tried to be quite careful when typing the readings but I’d typo every once and a while (more frequently on mobile) and this was a minor annoyance when it happened.

I did find a marked decrease in the usefulness (in my own opinion) of the later vocab and I’m probably going to wind up forgetting a solid chunk of the content after level 45 or consistently fail to burn it as I won’t come to see it in my real-world exposure, but that’s ok with me as I am aiming to achieve conversational and literacy competence for common everyday usage, rather than specifically any kind of ā€˜winning’ WK. Though I do admit that I pushed through to the end in the last month for the feeling of accomplishment of seeing all the material.

Now that there is no additional content coming from new lessons, once my daily reviews begin to fall below 150 as most of my items move to the master level or higher I plan to reduce my WK cadence to once a day and shift much more time to reading (currently spending time in Satori Reader, NHK news, and dabbling in JP language wikipedia articles), grammar study (I’ve read through Tae Kim and Yokubi and am currently using Renshuu for grammar practice), and listening (I quite enjoy Japanese with Shun).

I don’t have any intention of taking a standardized exam like JLPT but for the sake of comparing against a common benchmark I’d esimate I’m probably a weak-N4 on listening and a mid-N4 on grammar at the moment. I find that the strength of kanji knowledge and vocabulary I now have from 60 levels of WK certainly makes studying those other facets much more enjoyable and fluid feeling than how things felt 6-9 months ago for me. Always happy to hear suggestions for more sources of content, and thank you for reading to the end of this post if you’re still with me.

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Level up in 3 days? faints from shock :weary_cat:

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Those would be the ā€˜fast’ levels (43+) where they give you more than 90% of the total kanji of the level on level-up. So if you minimize mistakes on getting to guru for those kanji, you’re able to advance in half of the minimum time (~3.5 days) instead of the usual minimum ~7 days per level.

To re-emphasize, I would not recommend this pace unless you have the time and focus to ensure your retention does not drop off; if you’re under 80% accuracy at any point I think it’s probably a good sign to slow down your new lessons until you feel you’re at a comfortable level of recognition in your reviews again.

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I’m impressed, congrats on making it to 60. :partying_face:

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Great job alex and congratulations!:partying_face:

Best of luck on the next steps along your journey!

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Thanks to both of you for your encouragement!

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What a crazy rythm! Congratulations :slight_smile: :partying_face: . You took the right steps I think with starting to read and learning grammar, feel free to join any book club or Read Every Challenge that are in the forum!

I was wondering, as I go fast pace but for me I still have to do days ā€œoffā€ where I only do vocab, and still I have vocab left from previous lessons when I level up.
How did you deal with the vocab piling up ? Since you probably leveled up faster than you could do all the vocab at 15 lessons per day

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My basic cadence was: do radicals and kanji as soon as they are available, and then for vocab lessons aim to take them uniformly over the next 3-4 days. That way, I kept my daily new workload roughly equal over time and also made it such that there was little to no remaining unlearnt content built up before the next batch of new material as guru’ing radicals and kanji released new lessons. Sometimes if I knew I had other engagements or travel coming up on my schedule I would pre-take more lessons in advance such that I was only doing reviews during the upcoming periods I knew I had less time for Japanese study.

Prior to the fast levels, this was probably around 15-20 lessons a day. After lvl43 which no longer has that intermediate breakpoint where you get a few more kanji and have another minimum 3.5 days before you move to most of the next level’s material, I was looking at 25-35 lessons a day. I can see on this new heatmap feature that I was at around 600-700 lessons per month up until the end of July (as per those automated level-up emails, I can see that I hit lvl43 on July 22nd this year). In both August and September I had over 1000 lessons in each month.

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We have the same rythm! I wonder why I cant seem to tackle every lesson per level before it levels up then.. Maybe the few days of not doing wanikani created a delay!

There is no way I will be able to hold up this crazy pace at the end, so kuddos to you! I already have ā€œkanjindigestionā€ after a few levels on fast pace, I intentionally add a day where I do less lessons sometimes

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At that cadence there were no days off as far as new lessons went, and certainly few-to-no days off from reviews or there’d be a double workload day the next day!

I think knowing where your personal limits are considering your own degree of free time and mental capacity and staying as consistent as possible to that is the key to keeping with it. If something comes up that takes away a lot of your capacity for Japanese study and WK, it’s absolutely the right move to cut down to just a few lessons a day instead of trying to keep up the same schedule and just souring yourself on the whole process due to burnout. It sounds like you definitely have the self-awareness and context to keep best practices.

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Well I started wanikani in 2019, failed a couple times etc. etc. before starting anew in July 2025 more seriously, so I had a looot of time for self reflection aha.

But yeah! It’s what I have been doing : consistent as possible, reducing lessons if needed a few days per months, but overall fastest pace :slight_smile: . Without these ā€œlighterā€ days I was feeling like the kanjis piled up in my brain but didnt have time to get ā€œdigestedā€, so for me I have for exemple to do kanjis one day after radicals are Guru’d, this way I can do more vocab and take a bit more time for previous kanjis.

Good luck on your future learning!

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First off. WOW. As someone who struggles to even do 3 lessons a day, I don’t know how you do 30+ with that level of accuracy!

Secondly, do you feel like you are fluent? Like you could hold a conversation or read a light novel easily?

Do you have other hobbies?

Were there days you just didn’t have the motivation to keep going? If yes, what did you do on those days? I feel like there are days when my brain just can’t absorb anything.

Fluent? Certainly not; at this point I think my kanji knowledge is quite far ahead of my command of any other area of the language. I mentioned that I feel that I am probably somewhere around a low to mid N4 in general; I can understand basic clearly spoken phrases and reading meant for beginners. I feel that I understand >95% of the content on NHK News Easy so I’ve moved to reading main NHK now and it’s tough at times. As for communicating in a conversation myself, I theoretically know all the verb tenses and whatnot but being able to actually form an expression utilizing them in any sensible way is pretty unlikely; I’ve gotten about as far as sprinkling in some very superficial uses of potential and volitional. It’s still a lot of mostly [basic state of being or present/past verb] + 恧恙 when I try to speak myself.

I have plenty of other hobbies though I’ve made Japanese study my primary one over the past year; I’ve been consistently putting in 2-3 hours a day and for the past two months probably half of that was in WK because I wanted to push through the fast levels and that’s quite a lot of content. I’m lucky to have a lot of time and free mental capacity being between jobs at the moment (good luck to me once I start work again in a few months) to be able to focus like this. I don’t feel like I ever had a serious motivation drop-off but two months of awakening to ~200 reviews with 200 new ones coming during the day was certainly starting to feel a bit grindy, so I’m glad to have reached the content completion milestone and putting more time into fresher sources of exposure.

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Well you may not be fluent but you are miles ahead of most people who have spent 5+ years studying (me, I’m a slowpoke).

It’s still absolutely incredible you were able to absorb and retain so much information in such a short amount of time, and with the conviction that you had seeing 200+ reviews and powering through them all.

Thanks for the reply and best of luck with your future studies!

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Thank you for your words of support and all the best to you in your Japanese learning as well.

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Oh hey I was waiting for this! Crazy to see that we’ve only got a week difference on our join time.

Congratulations on your achievement! It kinda feels weird when you remember yourself in the first levels and where you are now, doesn’t it? Also, you accuracy is amazing!!

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Yes, congrats to us both for making it! I’ve thumbed back through some of the grammar guides I read early on as review and it’s nice to recognize all of the kanji and vocabulary instead of having to constantly cross reference each kanji against the provided vocabulary session.

Thanks on the accuracy, though it is absolutely decreasing day-by-day for me as I start to get into burned review of items in the level 30s that I mostly haven’t seen in months. I think my vocabulary accuracy drops by a few 0.01% each day at the least :sweat_smile: .

One ā€˜semi-hack’ that I’ll point out that I did was do a lot of extra review of new radicals and kanji when at the apprentice level on my own outside of just seeing them on schedule in the SRS. This was to ensure I’d have minimal downtime in getting them to guru at least once in as close as possible to 3.5 days so as to keep the content pipeline continuous. This probably had a decently positive impact on accuracy since a lot of mistakes happen at apprentice (and then again at burn level) so it’s not like my stats are totally from purely following the ā€˜efficiency’ of seeing things only on the SRS timings.

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