Chaining/listing nouns - difference between で (くて) and と (や, とか)

Given these example sentences (first of which I stole from Tae Kim), what is the difference? To me, it seems it should be more or less the same, maybe with a nuance?

Version with で and くて - what Tae Kim calls “chaining nouns/adjectives”:

Version with と (complete list):

Or with や (incomplete list):

The last two I wrote myself, hopefully correct

Is this basically the same thing? Or I’m missing something…

Thank you!

と and や are used for listing nouns.

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I see… so if all 3 of my examples had only nouns, then it would be comparable?

By the way, wow you’re fast!

In the example you are chaining sentences.


The で and くて are continuation forms of だ and adjectives (not particles like と).

You use と and や for nouns only like トマトやリンゴやパパヤが好きだ。 or something.


Thank you, though I’m still not sure if this answers my question above in the reply to Leebo! :slight_smile: Are those comparable in “tone”?

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