Now that Jeff is on the team, you’ll find a new tent in the southern part of Threek. Visit the tent to get a useful item.
Soon after, you’ll also get an item courtesy of Apple Kid. Take this item to the main tent in the center of town, then stay at the hotel for the night. Visit the tent, then head to the north-west graveyard and the underground path that zombies were previously blocking.
On the other side, you’ll have a bit of an outside stroll. Visit the waterfall if you’d like, then go into a cave to reach Saturn Valley. (I’m sorry.) One of the denizens gives you a tip about how to enter a passage behind the waterfall.
Return to the waterfall, follow the path behind, then press Up for the password request. Go ahead and set your controller down for three minutes and you’ll get a positive response.
Explore the base, then battle the boss. You’ll find he’s fairly unbeatable unless you use the fly honey you received from battling the tent.
You now have access to another cave out of Saturn Valley. This takes you to the next shining spot and the final boss battle of the week.
Finish up there, then return to Threek and save.
Tips:
When battling the tent, have Paula use her shield PSI ability on each party member.
Yes, the password really is not pressing anything on the controller for three minutes.
In the base, there’s an empty room that often has a magical butterfly. If the butterfly is missing, or after you heal from it, you can leave and re-enter the room for another chance at a butterfly.
Looking to level up? Before battling the boss in the base, the upper range to aim for is Ness Lv35, Paula Lv25, Jeff Lv25. It’s easy to level up by battling デヘラー and defeating them quickly with Ness and Paula’s PSI attacks that hit the whole row.
Don’t expect to beat the second boss, at the end of the base, unless you use the jar of fly honey on him.
For the final boss, the top levels to reach are Ness Lv40, Paula Lv28, and Jeff Lv28.
If you drink coffee and can’t keep up with the text, you can drink coffee again.
I spent nearly an hour in this battle. As Ness and Jeff were defeated early on.
I spent at least 20 minutes having Paula pray every turn until Ness and Jeff were revived.
By then, the battle had the max number of enemies, and Paula’s prayers had rendered them (and Paula) pretty much unable to hit anything with an attack.
Once Ness and Jeff were revived, they were immediately put to tears by the enemies, and they couldn’t hit anything with attacks, either.
Did I mention I already ran out of PP early on?
I had to rely on praying more to get some PP to use PSI attacks.
You know, I remember getting thrown off in my earliest days of reading by Yotsubato’s font not looking exactly like the default presentation of hiragana online.
My life at least appears to be getting more stable – still ups and downs, I had to get a new crown made because the previous doesn’t fit well anymore, which means lots of violently removing my gums all around to take impressions, which means a good amount of paid for a while. It’s tolerable and all but at this point I kinda overreact to any tooth ache type pain cause I’ve been through so much, so many times. Hard to not get kinda spikes of anxiety over it. I have a few others I’m aware might be time bombs as well that it’s hard not to worry about… I’m repeatedly told I take really good care of my teeth but that bad things just happen sometimes and they apparently happen a lot to me.
@ChristopherFritz Anyway all that said I’m hopefully in a place where if you want, I could start posting threads. Honestly, I think you remember the game better than me and are simply more able to give good advice and structure weeks a little better because as much as I love the game, my memories are fading and I was planning to be totally improvising as I played each week for myself and saw/remembered what happened, haha. If it’s not a big burden on your time, given that and the way I’m still in the midst of a little stuff, I’d also be very happy to just let you do it. But I’m definitely willing to try to take it back to free up your time if that’d help you because I didn’t intend to get you stuck impromptu running a whole club.
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I know you’re posting upper bounds (from the starman guide maybe?) but I can proudly say I’m muddling through so far on much lower levels, haha. I barely hit about 30 on Ness at the very end. Belch folded pretty much immediately to Jeff’s pencil rocket 5, was harder to reach him through there cause enemies kept getting random crits that killed Paula right away. The last boss fight was more awkward because Jeff was mushroomed but I forced my way through it; it spends so much time recasting the shield that it barely did anything to us.
I’m really happy to say I kept up with the coffee text crawl; often my JP reading speed can’t quite keep up with auto progressing text in these old games, but this is one of the gentler ones I’ve seen.
I’m such a fan of the 3 minute waterfall wait; I love when games pull random crap on you that can only inspire “are you really serious right now?” as your reaction.
The わ in Saturn Valley kept throwing me off; a few of those letters I was having to get by context and then mentally flag what they are for later lines.
Tears are a fun status concept; I really like how they thought about how to flavor every status in some unique way; this game pretty much rejects every sort of aesthetic trope you see in the genre.
Some years ago, I replayed the game on the Wii U. I think I got as far as Winters, but not as far as the return to Threed. (I could be wrong; I might have played farther.) While I won’t say I don’t remember the rest, it’s going to be a lot more foggy, and I’ll be relying on playing through portions to remember them.
I can keep going, and if you feel up to it down the line, you can pick it up in a later week.
While my hope from the start was that things would settle on your end and you’d be back on track sooner rather than later, I offered to cover with the full understanding that I could end up running things through the end. Take your time, do what you need to, and when/if you feel up to it, let me know. (If you’re on Discord, we could coordinate a bit if you wanted to ease back into it.)
Based mostly on a random Reddit post that felt about right for the earlier weeks. Since then, I’ve been level grinding a bit as it’s easy enough to run around one-shotting enemies after a boss battle while listening to or watching something, so it’s harder to judge if the recommendations are overinflated.
I’m never sure about the exact levels you need for each area, but thankfully this game does not really require any grinding outside of Onett. I feel like you have to have PSI Rockin/PK Kiai by the time you get to Titanic Ant. As long as you’re not skipping encounters you should really be fine from now on. Plus if you do grind, like to get a rare drop in an upcoming dungeon (that you definitely do not need!), the game is just mega easy. My team was 27/25/25 when I went into Belch (but I did do quite a few Fobby/デヘラー fights).
Onto my play through for this week: I managed to get the debug menu to pop up! This will crash the game most of the time so don’t try this at home. I had to get up and reset my console.
I also laughed at おとなドリンク being the Japanese name for the Protein Drink. What makes it an adult drink?!
I really had trouble reading the Mr Saturn/どせいさん text. But, I wasn’t too concerned since they don’t really say much and I knew which one to talk to to progress things. The text is kinda hard to read in English anyway
The coffee text was definitely too fast for me to read. But, if I got stuck on a word I’d skip it and pick back up. I don’t think there was any part I couldn’t decipher but it was just too quick. I was honestly really worried about this whole section. どせいさん font and the coffee segment, but I got through it a bit better than I had expected. I said this last week, but I am so excited to see how much I have improved next time I play through this game.
Come to think of it yeah it’s interesting the way this game works, seems like you can still get pretty significant XP from some fights you’re instant winning. Feels like there’s a critical tipping point to pass and then you can totally get the levels flowing. Where I am right now, in the currently relevant areas I’ve only gotten very occasional ones if I specifically back attack enemies that are isolated.
Much appreciate it, thank you. It probably won’t be needed for this but I am on Discord (same username as here), it’s generally open and I’ve connected with a few WK people already.
You know, yeah, they kinda just babble. It’s really in this perfect level where it’s not exactly incomprehensible nonsense but at the same time it’s kinda just rolls right off me cause it… has coherent meaning but also is kind of completely useless information or slightly confusing heh. Other than the ones sad that some are missing
Another tough week for me. I got attacked by 4 monsters immediately on entering the cave in saturn village, including two mushrooms. I tried to finish them quickly with pk fire beta, but then Paula gets mushroomed on the first turn and kills herself and Jeff with it Yeah didn’t get out of that one alive. Also had to use my life noodles in the laboratory. I was maybe a couple levels under what was recommended so maybe that had something to do with my struggles. At least the bosses were fine! I love Jeff’s Check ability, it makes things go much smoother.
Saturn text was mostly manageable, though I did end up mistaking some characters for others while I puzzled it out, like swapping ほ in for ま. There isn’t even a vertical line on the left, come on brain! I’m also proud to say I kept up with the heroic pep-talk you get during coffee. And by “kept up” I mean frantically reading the top lines before they move out of sight, of course. I’m normally a very careful reader but it’s good to force myself out of my comfort zone now and then
Favorite dialogue this week (technically past 2 weeks): the zombies run a newspaper and before you vanquish them with sticky floors, it gets delivered to the human hotel.
Somewhere in Threek I think one of the garbage cans said literal garbage was inside, and I think I’m more trusting of that one than one with “instant guts” in it
Having played Mother 3 I was looking forward to Mr. Saturns showing up, fun fact I heard that their writing was based off one of the dev’s daughter’s handwriting or something like that. In the end I managed fine but what tripped me up was thinking い was ル and the kana made up of smaller kana like に. At some point I ran out of steam and thought the period in the screenshot was a handakuten for た, that was a reality check lol
During the 3 minute wait I flipped some potatoes in the oven, sure I could of paused it but I thought it was nice of the game
When I fought Burp or whoever I forgot I had the はえみつ, I thought I was really close to beating him until the bitter end but I guess it would’ve been impossible
For the scrolling text I realized I could just activate rewind on NSO so I didn’t test myself to keep up with it. I did a tiny bit at first and just barely managed to do a loose translation (I make it a habit to not only read it in my head, but translate it in my head too, because if I had to translate it to somebody, I’d prefer to do it as I go along rather than have to recall a bunch of information afterwards not knowing how long it is)
I never paid much mind to all the houses in the game I’ve knocked on so far except for maybe one where Mr. Saturn answered, but I thought that the houses in Threek would be different because it makes sense not to answer during a zombie apocalypse, and I thought you’d be able to go inside them afterwards, but I guess not.
I was just about to ask “Where or what the heck is ソンツー” But it just hit me now, maybe it’s just Twoson rearranged (But why though?). And also I’m just realizing that if you rearrange ターマイツ you can get Tatsumairi (But without the ri), the name of the village in Mother 3. Anyway I’m kinda stumped, this sounds like a crazy line to me, and up until now I think it’s the only line I’ve asked for help with, not only is the ソンツー part weird but also the bit about chasing termites, I wonder if termites is something else
I wanna just chip in that this is generally recommended against simply because translation will slow you down compared to trying to directly understand Japanese as it is, which can really be a hurdle to getting past a certain speed. That said, if translation is specifically a goal of yours, then yeah go for it. I can definitely say as someone who has avoided much direct translation, that while my understanding of Japanese is solid, it takes a lot of time and effort to figure out how to phrase things in English even when I can intuit the meaning quickly. That bridge between the two definitely does not get built if you don’t work to build it.
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In your screenshot you almost had it, he’s mixing up multiple words. ノカジョ is 彼女 (かのじょ), ソンツー is Twoson, and ターマイツ doesn’t seem to quite follow the pattern exactly the same but I had a feeling it was maybe 参った (まいった), made particularly hard by that つ throwing us off from っ. A search confirmed it for me: 「むかしのノカジョがソンツーからおいかけてきてさターマイツだ... - Yahoo!知恵袋
Particularly nasty trick to play on language learners, haha.
Oh I’m glad I don’t force it very often then, I do find it slows down the immersion but I like doing it every now and then just so I can look back and be like “This is something practical I couldn’t do before”
I can’t believe how many times I read that line without noticing かのじょ was ノカジョ nice catch, I don’t think I’d ever have noticed, thank you
Catching up, just fell behind while keeping up with other clubs
Week 5
The どせいさん village was fun, I didn’t have too much trouble deciphering the text. Again, reminded me of the kind of gag you’d see in something like Deltarune. Love a weird font
Waiting 3 minutes as the password was funny - just checked my discord servers while I waited. Then the base wasn’t too bad, but the slime pile enemies could be annoying with the status effect. But then I found that ジェフ’s true power is analysis because he was able to tell me they’re weak to paralysis. So I’d have スネス paralyse them at the start of combat and then they just couldn’t do anything for the rest of combat
The ゲップー boss was really easy after using the ハエミツ. Just blasted it down really quickly
The coffee text-scroll was actually not too bad. I was surprised to find that I could more or less keep up with the speed of the text
The real frustration this week came from those mushroom enemies. Kept having to go back to the village to heal when someone got mushroomed, until I finally got a run where I was able to get through a few fights with 0 spores being spread (blast them with PK before they can move)
The sanctuary guardian was super easy once I’d dealt with the adds. It barely attacks, so you’re able to get a lot of damage in
Enjoyed getting back to スリーク and everyone hailing you as a hero
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