Okay, you opted with the less interesting option, to respond to something I never said. Shall I ask where I said everyone who doesn’t believe me is bad faith, or shall I just consider asking you to back anything up as a waste of effort?
You never know until you try.
Sorry, it just occurred to me that my initial response may be misplaced. Did you intend to mean that because I mentioned bad faith vs good faith argumentation three times then we can therefore come to the conclusion that everyone that doesn’t believe me is bad faith?
Something like:
Premise 1: You said bad faith here
Premise 2: You said bad faith here too
Premise 3: you said good faith here
Conclusion: Everyone that doesn’t believe you, you define as bad faith.
If that’s the case, then you did respond to what I said, it’s just not a valid argument. But it is progress.
Yeah I to hope they bring summary pages back in some shape or form. Would really love summary pages in the Extra Study section.
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Regardless of right or wrong, my question to you is
Is this how you want to spend your time?
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Yeah, I don’t care. Wanikani took away the summary page. I don’t care what they have to do to get it back. It can be done, obviously. They just choose not to do it. I can’t recommend anyone pay for WK if WK takes away features and ignores its customers complaints about it. It’s hard for me to justify paying WK but not the app I’m actually using.
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Yeah, you’re probably right.
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I liked the summary page at the end of my sessions.
I like the stream line effect of not seeing it now as well.
Guess it would be nice to have a setting in the options to say, yep, I want that or nope, don’t want that and let people decide instead of WK deciding for them.
Thankfully for me, I am at the butt end of my WK journey and when I hit level 60, outside of attempting to 100% everything (I am positive I will quit long before then as the usefulness of the kanji I am learning at level 54, when my reading is barely at level 15 or 20, isn’t worth the climb) I will spend a LOT less time on the tool… but for people who are near the beginning of the journey, losing that summary COULD lead to some not feeling the accomplishment, which could be devestating.
Before anyone asks, I keep climbing BECAUSE I am near the end and because I have been using this tool EVERY day for the last… checks wkstats…for 1013 days now.
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That’s fine, my original comment was just addressing the conspiracy that they would have purposefully gotten rid of the page for some nefarious purpose.
I think they just made a mistake and need to fix it.
I agree that not addressing this in a couple of weeks doesn’t reflect very well on them however. I don’t understand why they didn’t implement a temporary opt-out to return to the old site while they iron out the issues with the new one.
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I really miss the summary page. I used to go over it carefully after each session to remind myself what I’d missed and what I’d done well, and, to be honest, it was a disproportionately large boost to my motivation to see everything I’d done, for good or bad, on one page.
The percentage correct displayed on the summary page was far more accurate compared to the one displayed during the session as well, which (I think?) tracks correct inputs rather than correct items.
The summary page was my favorite feature of WK, and although I want to learn Japanese so badly that the loss of a single feature won’t stop me, I have found myself using WK a lot less than I used to.
More than anything, getting rid of great features to make largely invisible (perhaps imaginary?) improvements behind the scenes and then not being more transparent about what those improvements are or when they’ll restore the lost features is really discouraging 
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This. I feel like this whole situation is akin to the 河豚 thread a couple years back (but more justified imo). I feel like some of the people who are quitting over the summary page’s disappearance were waiting for an excuse to stop using WaniKani in the first place.
I also agree with you on wanting the WaniKani team to be more transparent with what their plans for a new summary page are going to be. They’ve said many times that they’re still in the “brainstorming” phase of replacing the SP which is absolutely ridiculous.
If they were removing a feature and still wanted to supplement it somehow, they should have started working on that supplement BEFORE the update.
I don’t know. I don’t code, but they should have had an idea how to replace the SP. Or maybe rolling out the new update was such a priority that they couldn’t do it.
At the very least, the staff are kind and I hope they learn from mistakes like this in the future.
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What are some of the other apps you’re using?
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This is the first and the worst struggle i’ve encountered on Wanikani. I could find a pleasant workaround for every other problem in the past but not this time, and this one irks me everyday. A daily struggle! I appreciate everything Wanikani has given me so far but this was their worst decision, and funny that they recently rolled out an update about the “being generous with mistakes”, while not addressing what we direly need at all 
Put a stop to this!
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Exactly… i can’t imagine how much of a setback it would be for beginners…
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Removing the summary was so unimaginably bone headed it’s truly amazing anyone green-lit it.
So I finish a review and I think, did I do well there? It wasn’t so bad, maybe I got 80% correct? But I’ll be sure to look at the kanji pages for the ones I got wrong. That’s what used to happen. Now I finish a review and it;s tumbleweed. Did I do well? Maybe? Who knows. Can I see which ones I got wrong? Nope, you’ll just have to guess.
It’s truly stupid.
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it’s a joke
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The timing is suspicious. First, they removed the summary page without telling the users first.
Then, when users complained, they said it was because they wanted to remove review session timeout.
Several days later, they changed the API to return nothing for reviews because the server is “overloaded”.
This seems to be the real reason why they got rid of the summary page. But for whatever reason, they were blaming the timeout.
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If you used the summary extension, you probably noticed that it was very slow, and was getting slower and slower as time went on. I’m guessing it made some very expensive queries on the back end that were affecting all users. It wouldn’t have been a problem before because they had a summary page that worked, that they’d load tested and didn’t cause any issues. But retiring the summary page forced the users to make our own summary page, without any knowledge or respect for the back-end limitations, and it turned into a DoS.
Just my theory though. Anyway, the updated plugin runs pretty smooth.
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Hey, sorry. I seem to have missed this notification
For android:
Beelinguapp - you read news in your language target alongside the one you already know. For this, you could use NHK easy news as a free version, but it’s quite good, more “pretty” and very cheap
Lingodeer (only gets to N4) - most likely you know this one, is like a Duolingo but improved for asian languages.
Akebi (dictionary)
Flaming durtles as a replacement for this WK mess, not a fan of the UI but it works like… you know, WK should.
web:
Takoboto (also a dictionary)
Nativshark - it’s like an all-rounder in the sense that tries to teach you everything as opposed to WK which focuses only on kanji. hella expensive to my taste but i tried it for free and i think it’s a really well-put-together product. I would only consider buying it if its on a discount, though.
GoGakuen (on Discord) - is like a game that tests your knowledge of grammar
I’m also using Bunpro and recently started Marumori (another all-rounder) but this last one is still in Beta, so anything beyond N5 is under construction or simply nonexistent
Also don’t forget your graded readers, the tadoku . org ones are free
As a personal opinion, stay away from drops and Duolingo, especially from drops. It’s an incredibly pretty app but focuses solely on vocabulary and it throws random words really soon I just think there are better options out there.
Same for Duolingo, if you plan to study something like French or German go for it, it simply is not well designed for asian languages
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Either way, it could be as simple as just explaining. Making a thread to listen to users. Maybe the first one (where it was announced) went out of hand because people were venting and such. still… I think that I would have understood and it would have been better to have like a sort of roadmap with users input to work towards the upgrades they say they’re working on.
Feels like someone is expecting for things to get sorted out by themselves and people just get tired. There’s a childish and unprofessional behavior in all this that to say the least, is disappointing
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