When will we get the summary page back?

It can’t be that hard. Tsurukame app shows only the entries missed in that session. Even if you put the phone down for a while and come back to it, it knows which ones were done in that session. I wish it also showed which ones you got right, but it doesn’t. Wanikani just doesn’t care enough to do it.

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Apps are not the same thing because all the logic runs on the client.

This WK website upgrade is specifically about moving logic back to the server and make the client display work more like a dumb terminal.

That’s the rub: the concept of a “review session” is trivial to detect on the client, but meaningless on the server. So they either have to develop a hybrid solution (which would compromise their new design, but might be the right approach here IMO) or they have to use some heuristics on the server to guess when reviews start and stop.

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Have you tried the new reviews on bunpro yet? You get the results for the last session and a tab to show the results for the past 24h.

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I haven’t, that’s neat!
I’ve mostly been using their app lately, it’s still alpha but it’s improved a lot with the last update.

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Maybe this is a hot take, but I didn’t notice the summary page being gone and I don’t really care. I just wanna finish WK and be done with it before the end of the year. If they still get me to the end then what I got what I paid for. The summary page doesn’t change that. I think the functions are all the same and knowing what you missed or got at the end doesn’t make me better at kanji.

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I’m really hoping you will next go into the Saikawa & Moe (S&M) Series Reading Club and post something like, “Maybe this is a hot take, but I’m not reading this series and don’t care what’s happening in it.”

You know, while you’re still in the mood to wander into threads about stuff people care about to blazon that you’re not personally inconvenienced one way or the other.

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Those aren’t the same thing. One I am still utilizing the service for its original intent, the other is just stating that I am not participating.

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Apps are not the same thing because all the logic runs on the client.

This WK website upgrade is specifically about moving logic back to the server and make the client display work more like a dumb terminal.

I’m not sure about the motivation of the update - maybe removing the session concept reduces server load, or simplifies the code - I don’t know. But web apps can have front-end logic as well, and the summary page could be implemented with that. I’d just store the review items in the local browser storage, and at the end, before redirecting back to the landing page, locally generate the summary page.

I’d bet a talented frontend dev could whip up a proof-of-concept in a day, and have a production-ready version of that in a week or so at most. Why is this not happening?

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Flaming durtles also has a summary page too if you want an app to fill the void.

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Thread title: When will we get the summary page back?
Reality: Not everyone wants the summary page back.

WaniTsunami has every right to post their opinion here whether you personally agree with it or not

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Yeah, I’m currently using [Userscript] Review Summary on the dashboard - #33 by biggybean as a stopgap.

I 100% agree and would only ask that you find an example at any point in time where I asked someone to not post. Otherwise, I’ll dismiss this as the bad faith argument that it is.

If you can’t find an issue with a post, I recommend not posting. I absolutely want you to have the right to post, though, if for no other reason then because I can’t wait to see what you manage to come up with next.

@vhfroggy has every right to post their opinion here whether you personally agree with it or not! See, I can do it too, and it’s equally apropos to your straw man.

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You’re completely missing the point with this. A user calmly posted their take relevant to the topic and you replied in an unsavory manner. You’re right, you didn’t explicitly say ‘do not post’ (this is ridiculous.) Let me rephrase: People should be able to join this discussion without being attacked.

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And here we have a staple of the bad faith actor, the moving of the goalpost. The complete post I was replying to was

Now I’m

completely missing the point with this. A user calmly posted their take relevant to the topic and you replied in an unsavory manner

Compare this to what you originally posted. Note that you said nothing about how unsavory I was or how calm he was. Rather, you pointed out that everyone has the right to post, which suggests you were defending someone’s right to speak, which in turn suggests I was attacking it. If your point was to suggest that you find me unsavory, then you failed completely to make that point, and of course I doubt that that is sincerely what you were trying to do.

Two things you seem to be missing, one being that wanikani has already stated that the summary page will be reinstated, and the OP is It has been 19 days. When will we get the summary page back?. How someone not using the summary page relates to when the summary page will come back isn’t completely clear, but you could have started with that instead of first pretending you were defending speech and then switching to an upholder of savory speech (commissars, by the way, were not heroes, so I’d suggest your pastime is not healthy).

Second, you’re simultaneously paying lip service to tolerating speech you disagree while (now, with the new post) complaining that you don’t like my tone. Perhaps you can take note that, at minimum, this is chipping away at the value you pretend to, so if you’re going to wear the face of a person of moral character, I would recommend aligning your actions with your supposed values by, you know, tolerating posts you don’t like.

In case you don’t know, I don’t like your tone, but as I actually believe you have the right to speak, I don’t concern myself with writing posts about how distasteful you are, as such complaints for such pettiness actually is chilling to free speech.

I can’t wait to see what the point I’m completely missing changes to next.

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Thread has gone volatile

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I responded as productively as I could but this is not at all what you said or implied in your response.

The response in question was very much “your opinion is worthless and you might as well post somewhere else that you’re not involved with.”

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Unfortunately.

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Note how I actually refer to what people said and don’t just infer the meaning I want them to have. I would appreciate it if people would also respond to what I say rather than what they wish I said.

My post was as follows:

I’m really hoping you will next go into the Saikawa & Moe (S&M) Series Reading Club and post something like, “Maybe this is a hot take, but I’m not reading this series and don’t care what’s happening in it.”
You know, while you’re still in the mood to wander into threads about stuff people care about to blazon that you’re not personally inconvenienced one way or the other.

This was a joke which implied that your comment was malapropos to the topic at hand, which you correctly identify when you said you may as well post somewhere else where you’re not a stakeholder.

It was never implied, though, that it was a worthless opinion, and the freedom with which you wield this accusation further solidifies my initial impression of your original post; namely, it didn’t contribute to the topic at hand, so I’m guessing that you were simply undermining everyone else’s concerns, similar to going to a forum about a manga people like and telling them that what they’re reading is of no interest to you. I stop short, of course, of accusing you of this, since I typically am not in the habit of telling other people what they think.

Regardless, it’s bad manners, I think. I didn’t use any scripts before the update, which broke many of the most popular user scripts and, therefore, many people’s workflows. However, I would never think to respond to some thread about how it broke workflows by saying, “Don’t care, doesn’t affect me.” I would see this as solipsistic, as if somehow something doesn’t matter because I’m not personally inconvenienced. I indulge in this digression in case you didn’t intend any harm, as an explanation for why someone might not see you as an innocent victim.

And on the topic of victimhood, I would also point to your initial post, where you described it as a “hot take” which, according to merriam, not me, is “a quickly produced, strongly worded, and often deliberately provocative or sensational opinion or reaction (as in response to current news)”. Self identifying as a provocateur and then playing the victim is also bad manners, and doesn’t really inspire me to think of you as good faith actor.

Please do let me know where I said your opinion was worthless, though. I am being 100% genuine that I will apologize and update my post once it’s pointed out. I look forward to you responding to what I’ve written. I less look forward to you responding to things I didn’t say, though that is always interesting too.

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Everyone that doesn’t believe me is bad faith

Ok dude.

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It’s not possible to reason with you :upside_down_face:

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