What is a good resource for learning Japanese grammar?
Texbooks, imabi, renshuuā¦
Just look at this list, or some other list
Beat me to it againā¦ walked away for 20 minutes and this is what I getā¦
I was late as well
I noticed. 24 minutes. tsk tsk tsk. I still arrived 2 minutes after you though.
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Genki is a good choice, probably the most popular.
How far have you gone in studying Japanese?
I would recommend taking J-CAT first (Post your J-CAT score!); or at least Online Self Level Check | MLC Japanese Language School in Tokyo, for accurately estimating your Japanese knowledge.
cool thank you! ^-^
TAE KIMāS GRAMMAR GUIDE IS FREAKING MAGICAL
ćććć”å ē recommended it in the first entry of ā(month) Japanese Resourcesā on Tofugu, and MY GOD is it freakin rad. If only I knew about this site 2, 3 years ago, I would be so much better at Japanese. If you want a clear, concise, and simple explanation from a Japanese stand point of grammar galore, look up guidetojapanese.org. It may not be for everybody, but by God, itās for me damnit! ;u;
Iāve started with Genki and Tae Kim, and later bought Practice Makes Perfectās āComplete Japanese Grammar.ā The first two are really popular, the last one, not so much, but still fairly good - and all three were helpful in their own way.
BUT! I just started reading Japanese The Manga Way and I think the explanations are fantastic! It covers both casual (plain) and polite forms in very concise grammar points, and provides real life manga examples to illustrate each point. I wish I had found this book much sooner - although thereās no audio or practice problems/questions, so itās only good for learning/review and not so much for practiceā¦
After a quick search, Tofugu actually writes a pretty good review for this book:
@rmizuno Iāve had that on my wish list for a while, but Iām concerned about the use of romaji. Was that part annoying?
The Genki books are the best to get you started in my opinion. Thereās also the Tae Kim guide but thatās a reference book, DO NOT use it as a textbook.
For me, Iād say the opposite.
I found Genki to be very dry and difficult for me to use solely for self study. Iām sure itās great in a classroom setting, but I had trouble trying to use it to learn when I was being exposed to the material for the first time. I use TextFugu for grammar and use my Genki book only as a reference or for a second look at whatever Iām learning at the time.
I didnāt really like Tae Kimās guide, personally, so I didnāt use it but lots of people here recommend it.
This is good adviceā¦ choose a resource that allows you to PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. Tae Kim is OK, but does none of that and is therefore a highly overrated and poor choice. I cannot understand why so many people recommend it in this context. Genki has lots of exercises, plus a workbook and is therefore a decent choice. Some of it is suited to a classroom environment, but a large amount of it can be completed solo. Eventually youāll want to find a study partner, but you can get pretty far on your own.
Oh yeah the fact that theyāre classroom oriented also threw me off at first, but Iām the kind of guy who tends to ignore the excercises so I didnāt care much about it, but yeah it can be bothersome.
What I didnāt like about TextFugu is that itās way too basic, I mean itās good but it doesnāt teach you much.
I just saw someone mentioned Japanese The Manga Way, I actually used that years ago before doing Genki, it was really fun and I think it was actually made specifically for self studying? Maybe try that out if Genki isnāt really for you.
You can ignore the exercises, but youāll need some way to practice what youāve learned. I know plenty of people who are fluent that never cracked a text book - they found people and just started talking. If you are not the textbook exercise type, listen to Textfuguās latest podcast, āWhy You Should Go To Japan Instead of Taking a Japanese Class,ā it is really great. If you are not the shy type, start booking your trip! In the over 20 times Iāve been to Japan, I wish I followed this advice, I really squandered the experiences!
Iām a third world 19 years old student, man, I canāt just ābook a tripā to Japan, but I appreciate the sentiment lol. My practice comes from reading native material most of the time, maybe once I get better Iāll join some japanese class only for the speaking practice.
I live in Japan, but I the reason Iām here is because of the JET Programā¦ I canāt imagine buying tickets to Japan round trip 20 times. That would cost like $60,000 in coach class, haha. Never mind all the other travel expenses.