Week 3: 詩的私的ジャック - JACK THE POETICAL PRIVATE (S&M Vol.4)

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Week 3

Start Date: July 2nd
Previous Part: Week 2
Next Part: Week 4

Reading:

Week	Start Date	Chapter	Page Count
Week 3	July 2nd	Chapter 5 + 6	36 + 45

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Proper Noun Readings

Previous Proper Nouns

Name	Reading	Notes	Proof
犀川 創平	さいかわ そうへい	Protagonist (Week 1)
西之園 萌絵	にしのその もえ	Protagonist
西之園 恭輔	にしのその きょうすけ	Moe’s dad
西之園 捷輔	にしのその しょうすけ	Moe’s uncle
結城 稔	ゆうき みのる	Rock star
結城 寛	ゆうき ひろし	Minoru’s big brother
篠崎 敏治	しのざき としはる	Student, Minoru’s friend
杉東 千佳	すぎとう ちか	Teacher, Hiroshi’s wife
藤井 紀子	ふじい のりこ	Teacher (made the log house)
前川 聡美	まえかわ さとみ	Victim
三浦	みうら	Cop
浜口 悦夫	はまぐち えつお	Technician from T大
田中	たなか	Other guy from T大
河原田	かわらだ	Forensics
岡部	おかべ	SF club member, same grade as Moe
鵜飼	うかい	Young cop
相田 素子	あいだ もとこ	Victim #2
諏訪野	すわの	Moe’s butler (Week 2)
西之園 都馬	にしのその トーマ	Moe’s dog
国枝 桃子	くにえだ ももこ	Saikawa’s assistant professor
牧野 洋子	まきの ようこ	Student, Moe’s friend
喜多	きた	Saikawa’s friend
蔡	さい	Chinese student
金子	かねこ	Male student
内田 かおり	うちだ かおり	Highschool student

Name	Reading	Notes	Proof
山本	やまもと	SF club member
浦野	うらの	SF club member
吉村	よしむら	Police detective
相良	さがら	Teacher

[Redglare]

In case someone else is wondering what kind of clothing item a カッタ is:

カッタウェイシャツ = cutaway shirt?

[miwuc]

Quite a lot happening! And some character development! And omg I was sure he was gonna kill off 牧野洋子, and I’m glad he didn’t, but at the same time I was curious to see how the story would deal with Moe’s grief. In the end the victim is still someone she knew, and she grieved for like… two sentences? I hope this comes up again later.

I also think it’s super cute how she’s trying to learn about Saikawa’s work. And it looks like she has two new love interests?? She seems to have a small crush on 篠崎 (seriously?? he’s so creepy), and the young 鵜飼 officer might be interested in her.

New names:

kanji	reading	description
山本	やまもと	SF club member
浦野	うらの	SF club member
吉村	よしむら	Police detective
相良	さがら	Teacher

[Redglare]

@miwuc

curious to see how the story would deal with Moe’s grief. In the end the victim is still someone she knew, and she grieved for like… two sentences? I hope this comes up again later.

Yeah, it seemed like she tried very hard to suppress those feelings and rather focus on the case at hand. I almost forgot that she cried at all, could only remember that she leaned against the wall for support.

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Some thoughts on this week’s chapters:

I’m curious what led Yuuki Hiroshi to switch places with Minoru while he was being followed by the police. We don’t know the circumstances around what happened on campus yet, but based on the assumption that Minoru (who was on campus at the time) killed Hiroshi’s wife, it seems like a horrible mistake of Hiroshi to almost allow something like that to happen. Could possibly be that it was someone else, though Shinozaki pretty much has an alibi this time, spending time with Moe at the pub. (And I agree, Shinozaki is so creepy )

I like that we got to read from the perspective of Moe’s friend, Makino Youko, someone other than Saikawa who also knows Moe. At first I felt a bit sad for Moe because of how much she missed him, but after a while the change of perspective felt refreshing, actually. I don’t quite know why, but maybe it is because Saikawa is so unconcerned with some of the stuff that happens in the book, it can be a bit annoying.

[miwuc]

@Redglare

it seemed like she tried very hard to suppress those feelings and rather focus on the case at

Yeah that was my understanding as well, but I hope we see those feelings come back later once she’s not in full investigation mode, otherwise she wouldn’t be very human (and it would feel like a cop out from the author).

Do you think Minoru did it? It just seems too obvious. It would be weird for the murderer to be the guy that the police suspected from the start, especially given the convoluted scenarios we’ve seen in the previous books. And the police has always been totally useless so far.

[Redglare]

@miwuc

Do you think Minoru did it?

Given what we know, I think it is possible that he did it. At the same time, I think it would be disappointing if it was that straightforward. For instance, maybe he’s responsible for the most recent murder, but wasn’t for the first two ones. Now that I think about it, didn’t we figure out the trick of the bronze statue puzzle in the middle of the previous book? That one was pretty obvious, though arguably, it wasn’t really the main Big Mystery of that book.

In my previous post, I almost included “Maybe the author did a bad writing? “ regarding the portrayal of Moe’s feelings, but I left it out in the final edit, hahaha. I too hope Mori-sensei gets back to it later at some point.

[Myria]

Chapter 5

It‘s probably not Minoru? Everything is way too obvious and I can’t believe he would be stupid enough to make the murders resemble the lyrics / album cover and title. But he does seem to have some … sociopathic tendencies?

Also, why doesn’t Moe at least tell anyone she’s meeting with Shinozaki? Why does she keep getting herself in danger without consulting anyone? Flashbacks to volume 2… I‘m scared for her

Chapter 6

First I thought Shinozaki might have a good motive? The good old „Minoru gets all the fame even though I’m the genius actually writing the songs, notice me!“ motive. But he has a pretty solid alibi for the third murder.

I‘m also interested in why Hiroshi agreed to create/fake an alibi for Minoru. He even put on a wig? How did his brother get him to do that?