Week 3: 本陣殺人事件

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Week 3

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Start Date: Jan 15th
Previous Part: Week 2

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Week Start Date Chapter Names Page Count
Week 3 Jan 15th 「捜査会議」、「金田一耕助」 ~25.5

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Proper Noun Readings

Previous Proper Nouns
Name Reading Notes Proof
井上 英三 いのうえ えいぞう Narrator’s friend (Chapter 1: 三本指の男) (Week 1)
一柳 賢蔵 いちやなぎ けんぞう Head of the family, eldest son, 40 yo, philosopher, lives with his parents
一柳 糸子 いちやなぎ いとこ Kenzou’s mother, widow, 57 yo (Chapter 2: 本陣の末裔)
一柳 妙子 いちやなぎ たえこ Second child, eldest daughter, lives in Shanghai
一柳 隆二 いちやなぎ りゅうじ Third child, second son, 35yo, doctor in Osaka
一柳 三郎 いちやなぎ さぶろう Fourth child, third son, 25yo, lives with his parents
一柳 鈴子 いちやなぎ すずこ Fifth child, second daughter, 17yo, lives with her parents
一柳 良介 いちやなぎ りょうすけ Cousin of the five children, 38yo
一柳 秋子 いちやなぎ あきこ 良介’s wife
久保 克子 くぼ かつこ 賢蔵’s fiancé
久保 林吉 くぼ りんきち 克子’s father, deceased, fruit farmer
鈴子’s cat
久保 銀造 くぼ ぎんぞう 克子’s uncle and the one who raised her/supports her (Week 2)
源七 げんしち 作男
週吉 しゅうきち The miller/小作
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Thanks for the list of characters! Just wanted to point out that you have 健蔵 on there twice though. :grin:

Thanks for catching this! That happens when an author introduces a character twice :woman_facepalming:

On a slightly unrelated note, I’ve stopped reading this book for now… I somehow could not really connect to the story. I know it’s supposed to pick up later, but somehow… I don’t know, I devoted 4 days to reading this book last week, and I barely made it through the second half of chapter 2 (i.e. 5 pages in 4 days?!?), for reasons that I don’t properly understand myself. Therefore I’ve decided to drop the book for the time being and read something else that I can enjoy more right now. (Of course I will continue to run the book club so no worries on that part.)
In other words, if you come across more character names that you would like to be added to the list, please put them up in the threads and I will add them to the OP.

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I find this book to be slow going as well, which I think in part is due to a lot of outdated kanji and terminology. So I can understand where you’re coming from. I’m still finding it easier to read than パノラマ島綺譚 though… :sweat_smile:

Also, judging from the chapter titles for this week, it looks like one very important character is about to be introduced… :wink:

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Yeah, it’s making it harder. Like 15 pages is long in this book while in other it’s short.

This week spoiler

So, if I followed correctly, the father of the deceased woman burned some diary pages then he called on the detective.
The plot thickens. I wonder if the track in the snow are him walking backward. Maybe not with the cliff but still.

A hard read again this week but as long as I can get the general I’m good. I might not follow all the hints though ha ha

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This week discussion based on hazy memories, refreshed by reading a section over again

The part about “the father of the deceased woman burned some diary pages” didn’t jibe with my memory of how the mystery unfolded early on, so I read over that section again.

I’m pretty sure what happened roughly is:
銀造 (the uncle and guardian of the deceased bride) together with the various people investigating things found a diary with a section burned, and is increasingly suspicious of 三郎 (one of the brothers of the deceased groom, the one who lazes around the house), who reported a previous time having used the room and fireplace when the diary pages weren’t there (as in, hadn’t been burned in the fireplace yet I mean).

Then as the investigation continues, we hear that 秋子 (the wife of the cousin who lives in the 離れ家) was looking for 賢蔵 (the deceased groom) just before the ceremony, and eventually found him in that office in the main house apparently burning something in front of the furnace, where the burnt pages were later found.

So I think at least as far as the investigators are concerned right now, the major implication is 賢蔵 burned a section of his own diaries before the conclusion of the wedding and his demise.

(and there’s a bunch of specifics about what can be recovered from the burned material and the diary and stuff, seems like it has something to do with a mysterious bitter enemy of 賢蔵’s, leading to possible connections but no clear answers yet as to why he would burn that part of his own diary and why it would have occurred to him to do it then specifically)

Then 銀造 is the one who contacts 金田一.

I mean that as general gist help, don’t mean to tramp down any speculation :grin: so if that part was meant as speculation, please ignore!

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Oh! It makes more sense now thank you!

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I think it’s the right choice to not try to push yourself through it right now!

I think of Yokomizo’s style as like, “artful exposition” in that he’s pretty much just explaining details the whole time and you have to try to keep them straight without being tipped off about what’s going to turn out to be important and what isn’t. And I wouldn’t say that approach changes later on in the book (other than the case progressing of course).
Which is just to say I think that following all that exposition can be fun and gripping in its own right… but it seems like it would be especially not fun to try to force through if it’s not clicking! :slight_smile: So I hope you can enjoy it more down the line without the “oh no I need to catch up with the book club!” factor.

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Thank you :blush:

I don’t even understand myself what exactly keeps me from reading this - maybe I simply need to learn more words and kanji that he uses in order to make the reading faster and therefore more entertaining :woman_shrugging:

(Also I’m reading another very vocab-heavy book right now so maybe I’m just tired of all the lookups… :thinking:)

I will definitely return to it at some point. Thanks for your encouragement, I really appreciate it!

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