I’m hoping I can pass the N4 by July, but I’m going to try both N5 and N4, so I can decide if I want to try N4 or N3 for December. I’m hoping to be through Genki 2 and the Minna No Nihongo book equivalent by then and use other resources to supplement my learning. Does anyone with JLPT experience know if that’ll be enough for the N4?
N4 might be a bit of a stretch for me, but I decided to sign up to challenge myself and give myself some accountability to sit down and work through some grammar. Looking forward to studying along with everyone.
Didn’t they recently switch to a subscription model? Maybe they moved the videos there…
WAIT WHAT I didn’t know this omg. Will they be replaced with new videos? I was planning on using those videos oh nooooo
I see… That’s so sad, one of the best parts about nihongonomori was that they provided good resources that were available for free D: I mean on the other hand it was already kind of a miracle that such good resources were available for free at all. I’ll go check it out.
Yeah and it’s nearly $10 a month… on one hand it seems a little expensive but on the other hand it looks extremely well thought out and put together. 日本語の森
I’m very indecisive so im still thinking of a strategy. I have MnN and SKZ N3 grammar book maybe i will revisit them. I have other referrnces and textbooks as well, like Tobira and Genki, but I havent opened them, i dont think i will xD. I think the resources I have are already enough to help me pass N3 but Im too undisciplined and lazy to study them xD I have jp class 2 hrs a week with topics aiming for N3 but our schedule and topic outline is not yet finalized.
As ive suggested in the other thread, regardless whether i study or not, ill do mock for mock but divided within weekends:
May & June weekends
=> Week 1 Vocab part of a mock exam
=> week 2 grammar
=> week 3 reading
=> week 4 listening
Signed up! Great idea as this will be the third JLPT test I haven’t been able to do thanks to our loving friend, Covid-19.
Adding myself in to participate! I took the Dungmori N4 practice test in July last year and passed that, so I’m signing up to do N4 again to see if I’ve had an improvement in score.
Also signing up for N3! Though I’m not aiming to be N3 ready by December this year due to wanting to give myself the ‘easy’ option for my first time stepping foot in an exam hall in many years, seeing which areas I do the worst in will be useful for redirecting studies with plenty of time still left to prepare for July 2021.
Putting this here for personal accountability. My mental health took a big hit these past few weeks, but I’m hoping I’ll still be able to participate with you guys and get a passing score.
If I do pass, I’m going to sign up to take the N2 this winter! And if that gets cancelled, then it’s the N1 in 2022! Moving ever forward no matter the challenge!
** (updated again bc reality bites. RIP my lofty ambitions) **
- Anki (keep pending reviews down to 100 or less)
- finish all WaniKani reviews
- 3+ hours practice reading
- study 15 new N3 grammar points & make flashcards
If I remember correctly that should be enough to cover at least the grammar you need for the N4! This post on reddit seems to indicate that too. Since there are no official lists or anything for the JLPT levels it’s difficult to say whether you cover everything, but it should be enough to pass. In my experience, I’m always behind on things like vocabulary, especially vocab that isn’t taught on Wanikani (so hiragana/katakana vocabulary). So using textbooks and other supplemental materials sounds like a really good way to improve all your skills enough to pass the N4!
I like how you’ve split things up by skill I try to do a bit of everything everyday, but I might be able to go in more deeply if I focus on one or two skills everyday… So instead of 15 minutes of everything, I’d spend 1 hour on grammar for example. Something to think about for me haha
Oh no, hopefully you’ll feel better soon!!
I like your schedule, I especially like that you use 日本語の森 to study, I’ve always loved their videos because you simultaneously practice listening as well haha. Maybe you’ve mentioned it before, but what do you use to practice reading?
So far I’ve already changed my study routine, I felt like I should focus on studying vocabulary more outside of wanikani. To do that, I try to write down 2 pages of vocabulary (only the words I do not know) from this (unofficial) list of N1 vocabulary, every day. I would recommend this website for all JLPT levels, they have (again, unofficial) vocabulary and grammar lists for all levels!
I think my actual study routine will still develop over the coming weeks lol. Anyway, I plan to make the first biweekly check-in post tomorrow! If anyone has any suggestions for questions that would be nice to ask/answer, let me know! So far I’m thinking of questions like “what is your current strength/weakness” (also asked in sign-ups, but might be nice to look back on/compare with others) and “how many hours a week do you spend on studying on average”.
These check-ins were suggested by @banditraider. They’re a very nice way of keeping track of your own and other’s progress, and it might be nice to respond even if you don’t plan to be active in this thread (I’m sorry this smiley somehow looks so intimidating, but I mean, feel free to participate lol)
Thank you, I’m doing a bit better now!
I have some suggestions again!
- have you been sticking to your study plan (if you had one)?
- have you changed or plan to change your plan/methods?
They’re not necessary, but it’d be nice to see if anyone’s plans have changed already. I’m excited to hear how everyone else is doing so far. I think it’ll be good motivation too.
Also that is a really cool website, I’ve never seen it recommended before! Maybe I’ll use that for N3 grammar instead.
I haven’t mentioned it because it’s a bit dorky but I’ve been playing an otome visual novel, so I get some listening practice on top of the reading. It’s called もし、この世界に神様がいるとするならば。 Or もし神 for short.
Cool details for cool people
It’s a horror/tragedy/romance about a modern-day reincarnation of the goddess Izanami, who learns she’s actually been trapped for years in a fake copy of the real world.
The story hasn’t been completely explained yet (I’m only about 2/3rds of the way through), but she has to somehow return to the real world before her past-life husband Izanagi binds her soul permanently to the underworld (where she is technically supposed to be, because in Japanese mythology Izanami died giving birth to the god of fire Kagutsuchi).
So if anyone here plays otome games (or visual novels in general) and likes tragedy you should check it out!!
Btw your study plan post said you were looking for suggestions on new ways to pick up vocab, so if you’re interested there’s a really cool site called freem.ne.jp that has a ton of free indie games in every genre, but unfortunately most of what you’d read would probably be casual conversations with common vocab words. And you might not even be into games, but I thought I’d throw it out there haha.
I support playing otome games lol. My Japanese isn’t quiet good enough to play one yet, but Alice in the Country of Spades is getting released this year, so I’m working very hard to be able to play it when it’s released I also have twisted wonderland on my phone which I plan to play once my reading level is higher.
That makes me feel a bit more confident! I’m still trying to figure out my study plan, but I think being able to have a goal to work towards (aka the mock test) is pretty helpful! Also, the vocabulary website you posted seems super helpful so I might start using it as well
OMG I completely forgot that existed until you mentioned it! It’s so crazy to me that Disney would ever, EVER be involved in an oto game. And the art is so pretty!
Are there any others you plan to play when your reading skills improve? Knowing the language opens up so many possibilities. There are literally hundreds of commercial oto games that were never translated into English. Plus there are all the indie ones (Japanese, not English), which I’m sure adds another couple hundred.
Personally I want to try Utsusemi no Meguri next, I’ve heard it’s horrifically tragic.
Yeah the art is so pretty and I’m kind of interested in how it actually works since it seems to be set up like an otome, but has the rhythm game element instead. I also kind of want to play another one by otomate called cupid parasite. I feel like I mainly only know otomate’s titles since their stuff is what usually gets an English port so I have a couple of their games I’m working through. I also hope to play angels of death and other similar games in Japanese eventually. I really like the art style of the 8-bit horror rpgs. I also looked up the game you mentioned and it sounds really interesting I hope you enjoy it! I’m not sure if you play any on switch or mainly stick with the PS Vita, but if you have any switch recommendations let me know!
Awesome! I actually did change my plans so that’s a really good question I think I’ll definitely include these questions and the ones you suggested before. I intended to make the post last Friday but had a migraine and decided against it, so I’m working on the post now!
Nooo that’s not dorky at all! Whatever helps you learn Japanese is a good method (and I’ve heard so many people who use otome games to learn actually). I’ve never tried it before because I just didn’t know where to find them, but I see you posted a link so I’ll check that out for sure. I also didn’t play games a lot, but recently I started playing fire emblem three houses in Japanese and I LOVE IT so yes, will definitely check out otome games!
This is actually such a nice, concrete goal! Twisted wonderland can be the warm-up then
I’m glad Having a goal helps me a lot as well. I hope the website is useful for you! I just like to use lists so this works perfectly for me haha
Ok so I’m making the check-in post right now! No matter how active this thread is, I need all of this to stay motivated so I’ll be making these check-in posts bi-weekly Feel free to talk about anything here (as long as it’s slightly related to the JLPT), because others might find your ideas/study routine super insightful and helpful for their own routines.
Check-in (#1) March 14th
How does it work?
These check-in posts were suggested by @banditraider and will be made bi-weekly (on Sundays). Feel free to respond, whether you’re studying more casually, or even if you’re taking the actual JLPT! It might be a nice way to hold yourself accountable, or just see how you’re progressing over time (if you regularly respond). The format and included questions aren’t set in stone at all, so if you have any suggestions, please reply!
- I have stuck to my schedule 75% - 100% of the time
- I have stuck to my schedule around 50% of the time
- I have stuck to my schedule 0% to 25% of the time
- I do not have a clear schedule, but I have studied Japanese regularly
- I do not have a clear schedule yet, but I am in the process of making one
- I have not started studying for the JLPT yet
- Other (please comment)
- Yes, I have changed my routine so I spend less time on Japanese than I originally intended
- Yes, I have changed my routine so I spend more time on Japanese than I originally intended
- Yes, I have cut some methods from my routine
- Yes, I have discovered new studying methods that I would like to add to my routine (please comment!)
- Yes, I have decided to switch my focus to a different skill (e.g., listening instead of reading)
- Yes, but I haven’t changed my routine/methods in any of the ways mentioned above (please comment!)
- Other (please comment!)
- Very confident
- Fairly confident
- Not very confident
- Not confident at all
- My skills are all at a similar level
- I don’t know
- Other (please comment!)
- My skills are all at a similar level
- I don’t know
- Other (please comment!)
All polls close in 2 weeks, just before the next check-in post.
Please leave a comment if you feel a question or answering option is missing/should be changed! Also feel free to leave any other comments you might have!
I started listening practice, but it’s a bit disheartening. I am using the Noriko podcast but I understand about 30%…? Up to about 60-70% after I’ve read through the transcript. There’s a lot of vocab I do know, but just don’t recognise without seeing the kanji. I imagine I’ll get better if I just grit my teeth and stick with it, but it feels super demotivating.
So I’ve come up with something else; I am going to make an Anki deck out of the sentence audio of the Hajimete Tango books. I’ve worked my way through the N5 and N4 books, so I should know all of the vocab in those sentences (in principle lol). Hopefully using these sentences will help me (1) recognise vocab I already know without kanji and (2) parse the grammar at live speed. The SRS system will mean that I can really focus on the stuff that’s tricky instead of just having to let it go like I need to with the Noriko podcasts.
Would love to hear how other people are doing their listening practice, especially absolute listening beginners.
Also, @NathaLire, thank you for setting up this check-in
I’m feeling inspired just seeing how well you guys are doing on the check-in polls. I’m probably the least on-track person here, but I’m cheering you all on!
I’ve always seen Nihon con Teppei recommended here so you might have already heard of it, but it’s very good for complete beginners. I’ve done almost no listening practice ever, but the topics and vocab he uses are very simple and easy to understand. They’re also very short so you can listen to as many as you have time for.
Nihongo no Mori is good practice too since they also use simple language and you can slow the video playback speed on Youtube if it’s still too fast.
Just as a heads up in case you don’t already know, these decks already exist (for example here, but I think there are others too)
Might save you some work