Wanikani Fonts Update

The font that by far gave me the most trouble so far is this ancient-script looking font I found in a few places:


It’s supposed to be 玉繭物語.

Surely even Japanese people can’t readily read that, right? That’s just insane.

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I’ve been using Jitai for font randomization since nearly the beginning and the only one I didn’t recognize is the second one, likely because I haven’t learned it yet.

Some of the Jitai fonts, notably the “Armed banana” are extremely distorted. For me, the main thing that makes the difference is knowing (or at least recognizing) the stroke order.

Given that, I imagine Japanese people would have no issue reading it.

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Jeez, that is insane haha, I have no idea how 語 becam into that thing :laughing:

I did some experimenting and 350 seems like the best font weight on my end. 300 is definitely too thin, but 400 seems a bit too thick

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You’re not being stupid, people say it like this all the time. The bottom line is that when it comes to fonts/topography/reading Accessibility is very important and that’s the heart of the complaints here. For you the change of font didn’t make wanikani inaccessible so you couldn’t relate to the complaint, but you do understand what it feels like to be in a space that lacks Accessibility when it comes to your needs, right?
It’s hard to make that pause when someone complain about something that doesn’t bother you, I mean, before I started to need reading glasses I wasn’t aware how many essential things are completely unreadable if your eyesight is not 6/6.
I completely understand where you’re coming from, I myself used jitai when I’ve reached level 20 and up, and @simias example made me chuckle ‘cause I know what trying to decipher old school Japanese web pages that looks like coupons pamphlet feels like (impossible :crazy_face:)
But a lot of people don’t want such an advanced learning experience, they just want to concentrate on the vanilla wanikani experience which is super legit and that it would have an accessible baseline.
I hope this helps you understand and feel less anxious about what I initially wrote.

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Yeah, I can totally understand that.

I just wanna note here that my eyesight isn’t 100% perfect as well, and I would need reading glasses as well, but I currently don’t have any… However, I pretty much never had problems with different fonts (except if they’re like the one’s @simias showed lol)

Yeah, I get it now, sorry for being so ignorant. Then I’ll phrase it a bit differently now:

I personally have no problems with the new font, and I actually like it a lot!

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FYI for anyone using the custom style Breeze Dark 2, I have just updated it with a new setting to choose your font thickness, ranging all the way from “Thin thinnest” to “Thick thickest” (200, 300, 350, default: 400, 420, 500, 600) :sweat_smile:

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Not sure about the outrage, that’s a pretty common font.
I’m just a little bothered by the thickness, 300 is too thin and 400 too thick, and there isn’t a 350 variant so it looks a bit jankey if you let the browser render it to 350.

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Other way around. That thing became 語.

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wait is everyones now thinner? mines now thicker??

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I thought the font was a bit different but wasn’t sure if it was just my imagination. Didn’t realise there was so much drama over it last night :sweat_smile:


like this 大 looks ridiculous to me…

same! im so confused lol

It used to list a long list of fonts you “might” have installed, so if one of them was installed you would see that font, which might be thinner or bolder than the new standardised font, hence why some people are saying they see a thicker font and others are saying they see a thinner font.

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And here I am wondering “what font change ?”… I didn’t even notice (and still don’t) and I might have to install the script to come back to the old font just to see the difference XD

Where there are new things, there is always drama (sometimes justified, sometimes not)

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That may have been their point. Comic sans is widely used in learning material because it is dyslexic friendly. Considering all the open research on dyslexic friendly Kana fonts, I highly doubt this is THE one (or their reasoning personally D:), it doesn’t hurt having an easy to read font over a cool font that looks better in graphic design.

So was there any reason for changing the default font (the font that was at the top of the stack, “Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro”) when you made this change away from ‘google fonts’? (Is Hiragino even a google font? A (google!!) search returned the top result in an adobe library…)

Either way, it doesn’t seem that switching the way your fonts were served would necessitate changing what fonts are being served.

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Hi @tofugu-scott - I’m not going to say this is unreadable, but it’s quite unpleasant to stare at for long periods of time - the bold/thick font in white against the darker background makes for a pretty fierce contrast

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Its very interesting seeing what some people view as a big change, this 大 looks fine to me but I read a lot of comics with different fonts

I do accept the need for accessibility options but I can’t help but feel like a lot of this comes down to taste?

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