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Thanks very much Omun!
This is super detailed and helpful. It’s a great reminder to me to diversify my learning, pick up grammar and start reading.

See you around the forums! :crabigator:

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Here goes my question. I’ve studied kanji with Wanikani since mid-August. Initially, my goal was to finish the first 30 levels within a year.

If I study between 5-10 items per day and try to do the reviews once a day (twice a day isn’t always possible, due to lack of time), do you think I will be able to reach my goal? Will I get even close?

Edit with another question: how much should I study if I wanted to reach level 30 no matter what…

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same question here hehe. Also started in August. 5-15 items per day, two 50-70 item review blocks a day.

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With one review session a day? I don’t think it can be done.

If we keep the maths to just the kanji (and I personally see no merrit whatsoever in skipping vocab unless you are actively learning vocab outside of WK):

Apprentice 1 → 4 hours → Apprentice 2
Apprentice 2 → 8 hours → Apprentice 3
Apprentice 3 → 1 day → Apprentice 4
Apprentice 4 → 2 days → Guru

If we take into account how long it takes for an App item to hit Guru, the one review session a day means it will take about 5 days to get items to Guru (and that is if you never make any mistake whatsoever.)

Doing some additions, there are 347 kanji in levels 1-10. If we triple that for the sake of convenience, you already have well over a 1000 kanji. Divided in batches of 5-10, that will take a long time. And unfortunately the one review session a day will slow things down by a lot.

I’m both tired and horrendously, embarrassingly bad at maths, so someone much smarter than me will probably be able to tell you how far you might be able to get in a year with that study schedule. But at the minimum, I’d say level 30 in that time frame will not be possible.

Plenty of people talk about what’s needed to get to 60 in a year, so I guess: do that, but cut the number of items in half. :joy:

But on a more serious note: having a review schedule of three times a day. For example reviews and lessons at 08:00, reviews at 12:00 and again at 20:00. It will move Apprentice items up significantly faster.

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Highly recommend, given the time constraints, trying to fit in the three times a day review schedule. Trick to make it more manageable - use a script to reorder reviews by SRS stage so that you can just review the items at apprentice 1 at the midday review - if you’re only doing 5-10 lessons a day, that should be less than 5 minutes of review at the 4 hours mark after lessons - basically a bathroom break.

Not sure if you prefer to have your reviews in the morning, or in the evening - personally, my main block is in the evening, so I do a few reviews, and my lessons, between 7 and 8 am - usually for about 15 minutes - then my apprentice 1 reviews quickly at lunch at work (usually about 10 minutes) - I used to do these on my phone when my internet access at work was spotty. My apprentice 2 items come back around 7/8 pm (depending on when I get to my lunch time reviews) to join the once/day big block of reviews. I understand some people prefer a big block of morning reviews - you could do lessons at 5 pm, first review at 9 pm, and then your reviews would accumulate around 5/6 am (but you could certainly do them at 7 or whatever).

Frequent reviews are important to move items from apprentice to guru - after that, the time of day/ number of sessions per day don’t matter that much. I hope that’s a little helpful - I know not everyone can pause even briefly during the work day for reviews, but it is the most effective option to progress at a steady rate. Even regularly twice/day helps things move more effectively.

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Level 30 in a year is a level up pace of around 5 levels every two months or a level every 12 days.

That’s doable at 10-15 lessons per day but not at 1 session per day.

Like @Omun pointed out, if you don’t hit the Apprentice 2 and 3 intervals in the same day, you add an extra 2 days to your level up. Since Kanji are in batches of two, that’s 4 days

At that rate you’ll probably end up with a level every 15-20 days.

Do everything the same but split it into 3 sessions per day.

I did it this way and finished in 2 years while spending around an hour total per day.

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Yes, I started having the same amount of reviews per day. After being stuck in level 4 for more two weeks, I decided to do level five a bit faster. I think I will have finished it within two days.

My schedule is a mess, so I don’t really care about that. I try to review kanji whenever I can.

First things first, thanks for your detailed explanation.
To be honest, there are days when I can take three sessions (morning, after-lunch and around 11 pm) and days when I can only take two sessions.

So that is the key. Will try my best.

Thank you so much, everyone!

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Don’t think of a review session as an hour long beast that’s a pain to get through. If that’s the case there are probably other issues behind that.

Try seeking out those scraps of time that are spent doing nothing or traveling or whatever and use those. 5 minutes should be able to get you through at least 10 items. A few of those (and believe me, they are more common than you’d think) and you’re set. This works especially well if you use public transit as that’s a good few minutes to review

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Did someone find a cure for covid where you live?

I mean… Ye? Kinda? 70% of the country is vaccinated, public transits are usually safe enough. By travelling I really meant commuting.

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Are brazilians welcome as immigrants

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I guess it’s more of a question about the wk forums, but can anyone explain what these poll threads are? There seems to be a bunch of them (we’re in the 42nd version apparently), the title changes to mimmick a popular thread’s title with POLL added on it, and the convos there don’t seem to follow any specific topic. It makes me quite confusdd

The POLL threads are basically a general chat thread with a bunch of polls drizzled throughout it. People are very chatty in those threads, that’s why the threads reach 10’000 posts in matters of just a few weeks and they have to start a new thread. Oftentimes, very silly conversations - sometimes very serious and dramatic conversations. As you’ve observed, there’s no specific topic. Anything can be discussed as long as the general forum guidelines are being followed :slight_smile:

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By the way, if you grow weary of them always appearing in your ‘new’ list you can mute the entire campfire category (ahem, as I have… I can find enough distractions without them) :slight_smile: