Interesting Discussion about Japanese Learning

[Aniki]

George "Japanese from Zero" Trombley discussion with Matt VS Japan

[jprspereira]

@hinekidori Have you listened to the whole video?

[hinekidori]

Still working through it. They start dogging on WK @ 1:16.

[Alan234]

At this point I’m sure that Aniki is a spy by the national kanji agency and tries to destroy this website from the inside x)

But yeah its quite interesting to watch these.

[Aniki]

Haha, Nah I just have these videos pop on my Youtube Home page that turn out to be interesting lol.

[Alan234]

Don’t worry, keep sharing these

[jprspereira]

George seems to be totally lost in terms of knowing what WK is about. I understand Matt’s perspective, but he’s guessing too much. That’s his bias.

[Alan234]

@jprspereira

George seems to be totally lost in terms of knowing what WK is about. I understand Matt’s perspective, but he’s guessing too much. That’s his bias.

At this point I no longer know what WK is about myself… All I know is that it kind of works and I can understand some Kanji if I see it. All while having some fun and a nice community, so yey for WK

[jprspereira]

They might even say that WK forces you their mnemonics… like hello?? There’s a section for notes??

EDIT: At least they enjoy fake radicals…

[Alan234]

Is there even a point of “real” japanese radicals? In the end they are just building blocks made to recognize/memorize and write down kanji easier, even for Japanese people right? Radicals and how you perceive them themselves don’t have an actual meaning I think

[chezmax]

Paper dictionaries. That’s about it.

[jprspereira]

@Alan234

even for Japanese people right?

I believe JP people learn kanji by strokes. Not sure.

[Leebo]

@Alan234

Is there even a point of “real” japanese radicals? In the end they are just building blocks made to recognize/memorize and write down kanji easier, even for Japanese people right? Radicals and how you perceive them themselves don’t have an actual meaning I think

They’re used for categorization for Japanese people, not building blocks. Each kanji only has one radical.

[Alan234]

So that makes radicals basicly useless/unnesesary for japanese people huh? TIL. Also ty to everyone for the explanations :3

[hinekidori]

The truth is they are both biased to their methods and should be willing to talk to WK before shitting on it.

[Leebo]

No… How did you get that from what was said?

[Vanilla]

I was just wondering that same thing lol. Maybe he meant “non-japanese”?

[Alan234]

What I got was that radicals only exist to look things up easier (something along those lines). Together with chezmax’s comment I thought that you don’t really need them in every day life for a japanese person…

Tbh I have no Idea what I’m talking about, thats just what I got from ur comment. I’ll look it up myself afterwards, don’t want to derail this thread.

I’m sure it will gain quite a lot of traction (like the last one) and actual discussion about the video with arise soon x) Thanks for trying to explain it tho.

EDIT: I have no Idea why but I’m actually terrified of Leebo lmao

[Leebo]

The radicals categorize the kanji no matter if you’re using a paper dictionary or any other kind of dictionary. They give you a starting point to understand the meaning of the kanji, even ones that are less obvious.

Regardless of if you use a paper dictionary or not, it’s useful to know that risshinben (fish stick radical) is based on 心 and thus kanji with it tend to be related to feelings/emotions. That’s just one aspect.

[xyzbuster]