Forming a plan?

Hello WaniKani Community!

Apologies as this feels like a pretty generic question, but at the same time I really cant find any resources on forming a more structured guide on learning Japanese long term.

I was planning on visiting Japan later this year but some family stuff has come up and that has delayed my Japan trip 18 months to 2 years. While initially I was a bit bummed I’ve decided to rather put that energy into really knuckling down and trying to make the most of the extra time I’ve been given.

Outside of WaniKani what else should I be looking to do?

My plan as is was to get through WaniKani till I think I saw level 10 recommended then starting to read some beginner material and learning grammar (I also have a lifetime Bunpro subscription). I believe I also saw one could begin with a bit of a language exchange then?

I’m genuinely at a bit of a loss on forming a plan as this is my first time learning a language and when I try search I always get ‘I passed JLPT N1 in 3 months’ type posts. Which just isn’t useful to me.

Thank you for your time.

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I am not saying you should study for the JLPT, but it has structure around levels which is very useful so that people can study easier, more important stuff first, and then build on it.
Its main drawback is that there is no speaking part.

Can I refer you to this thread and post?
Irodori is a great free resource for Beginners to Lower Intermediate.

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Thanks for the quick reply, I’ll definitely give this resource a look.

Beginner to Lower Intermediate seems perfect, after that I could possibly start reading books without feeling like I’m beating my head against every word.

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Welcome!

It does of course depend on what your goals for Japanese are, whether you want to be able to speak well (enough), read well, both, etc.
Regardless, basic grammar is necessary for everything (think sentence structure, particles like は, の, に). It’s up to you how late you leave some kind of grammar study, and what resource to use (I used Genki, other people say good things about Minna no Nihongo textbooks as well, some people use online resources like the one Dara linked above, or Cure Dolly youtube videos or Tae Kim’s grammar guide). But personally I think going through at least the very basics early on is good, as it preps you to be able to read or listen later on. If you find a structured course or textbook you like, sticking with it for at least a while is probably the way to go, to get you through the absolute beginner stages.

Whatever your goal is, remember that Kanji is just a small part of Japanese. Wanikani is incredibly useful for it, and just with Wanikani alone you can read so much Japanese on signs etc. in Japan, but you won’t be able to communicate at all. For that, you need some basic grammar study, and listening/speaking practice. Also, there is a lot of basic vocabulary which Wanikani doesn’t provide you with which you will eventually need to know. There are beginner resources for listening, such as Comprehensible Japanese, or Nihongo con Teppei, and some people use services like italki for tutors to practice speaking with. There are language exchange services like HelloTalk (not sure about others but I’m sure they’re out there) which you can use for free instead to practice communication - you can find people to message, talk with, etc.

If you are interested in getting into reading, I see this guide posted a lot for beginner reading advice: Joining the Absolute Beginner Book Club: Preparation and First Reading Experience Expectations - Japanese Language / Book Clubs - WaniKani Community. It’s up to you again as to when you start reading. Satori Reader is another option I see people use, for language-learner aimed post-beginner reading content rather than native material.

Hopefully some of these resources might be helpful. I remember being in your position and not knowing where to start - there’s so much information out there, and so many conflicting opinions. But as long as you get some basic grammar and vocab down, and try out different things, it gets easier to figure out how to move forwards! Try to make sure you know what your goals are so that you can think about how to reach them. Sticking to resources for enough time to get benefit out of them is important, but if something doesn’t work for you, don’t be afraid to change.

Good luck!

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Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply!

I have seen Genki 1 & 2 recommended a lot and to my knowledge our beginner Japanese university classes use them also. Potentially I could pick up a second hand one.

I have looked into Satori Reader and began on their most basic prep reading, however it felt more like I was just practicing hiragana and then looking at what it meant. Maybe this is the correct feeling? I don’t know :sweat_smile:.

I think being able to read would greatly speed my study up as it will increase the sheer time I’m able to spend studying. I also have a native friend who lives in Osaka I could change from English to Japanese when I’m comfortable enough. I’ve also seen people tend to have success swapping their video game languages to their learning language. So I think this would be my focus for now.

Thank you again!

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Great advices. I would also add finding some nice Japanese YouTuber who speaks slow and simple Japanese for you to follow and do some immersion. There is plenty of them, they are popping up like mushrooms in these last few years.

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