Ever use split screens for emergency?

People don’t start entire topics about elitist attitute here for nothing you know. :slight_smile:

i’d say you’d be better off just letting some reviews roll over to the next day. looking up answers won’t help you learn faster, and make it more likely that you’ll fail them in future. personally, it’s not something i’d ever do

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This bothers me also. The one I really don’t like is when you can use the same answer for both transitive and intransitive. It implies that they are completely interchangeable and will make things more confusing later on for someone not already familiar with this (yes I know it is listed on the side, but someone super new to Japanese may have a hard time with it). I also think it could be improved without some sort of massive overhaul.

It’s not strictly a wanikani problem. The youtube course I was taking (it’s still great though) had a massive problem with this. I guess it’s just a pain of learning Japanese via English. Someone here came up with a good idea of explaining verb transitivity using the rise-raise pair, but that doesn’t solve the problem of coinciding words like to start/start something (I don’t think you need that something to get a right answer btw). Not like that is a big problem for me, because my mother tongue handles that aspect pretty much the way Japanese does, but it’s still a pain getting correct answers here on wk. I feel like that is a lot less of a problem when you have context.

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You should probably slow down your reviews a bit, or do frequent smaller sized review session during work.

To be fair, that’s how they teach grammar and vocab to us in English speaking countries although I’d guess we have an inherent advantage in already speaking the language. :wink:

Yeah, where you draw that line is going to depend on your personal journey. I do think, though, that it’s hard to decide without actually reading and seeing the result of your study habits.

Personally, I don’t think there’s any benefit to just looking up each answer during a review.

Open two windows (same browser, or different browser), snap them side to side, done!

Hell of a session.

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If you’re treating Wanikani like WoW so you can flex, then go hard.

I choose to follow the system because it’s for myself to learn kanji, not to impress others with a meaningless level number…

It can completely change the meaning of a word, so it seems like a sensible thing to check in the system.

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Messing up 2 letters while giving the meaning can do that just as well. WK is fine with it though.

Presumably, you know English well enough to know when you make a mistake

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Right, but as @Kumirei mentioned, you’re not here to learn English, so if your typo results in a different word, you’ll notice. And if the resulting typo is close enough that it’s a plausible confusing answer, people contact WK to add it to the universal blacklist.

But if you think a word with rendaku doesn’t have it, there’s no reason to think you’ll notice that your answer was wrong if it gets accepted the same way.

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I wouldn’t, personally. When doing reviews or lessons either on my phone or on my PC, I really want to focus on them to make sure I’m remembering the vocab and kanji well. I definitely wouldn’t split screens with the help page on one side, since I feel that would defeat the purpose of learning :frowning: .

200 reviews does sound like a bit much, but if you space them out and slow down on lessons, you’ll be fine :slight_smile: . No need to rush.

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if you don’t care about actually learning, then you could just fiddle with some javascript and have the browser treat every answer as correct. There are userscripts you can use to just have every answer count as correct.
Even better, automate it! Use the new fancy API v2 to just tell WK you got it all right! This way you don’t have to open WK at all!

Seriously though, if you care about learning, don’t cheat. There’s nothing to gain from that. You would just be spending time convicing a website you learned something, when en realidad you haven’t. If you want to optimize your timings, use userscripts, create a schedule and plan your sessions. We have some excellent helper scripts that make lessons and reviews much more convenient, and faster, too!
Have a look at the List of API and Third Party Apps.

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ちょっと待て…
No estoy seguro si es un chiste o un error…

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I wouldn’t do it with the search function, because for me that defeats the purpose the the Reviews (which is to see if I remember them). I don’t even have any of the scripts installed that let you correct an answer because I don’t trust myself not to use them to cheat the system by saying "oh yeah, that’s what I meant to type.

That said, there are two things I have done and could suggest you try if you have limited time:

  1. Just go through quickly, and if you get the answer wrong don’t worry about it. Then, at the end, on the summary screen, right-click and open new tabs for all the ones you got wrong and don’t understand why you got wrong and study them again.
    or
  2. Only do some of the reviews and just leave the rest for when you have more time. You can use the “wrap up” feature when you’re getting close to running out of time or maybe try @Kumirei’s “Review Queue Sizer” script (see this thread). Alternatively, if you know you won’t have time that day you can set vacation for a day.

As others have mentioned, Wanikani is more a marathon than a sprint. Instead of trying to get through it fast, it makes more sense to get in a habit of only doing the number of lessons that you can manage reviews for in the time you have, even if that means you often have pending lessons. Take it at a pace you can manage, otherwise you will get burnt out or find you are not really remembering anything.

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For the most part no because that defies the point which is need to learn and recall this stuff.
The only time tend not to is something is Enlightened and I know the “gist” of what its saying and want to double-check the exact answer as WaniKani will sometimes fail you if you use the wrong concept so to speak. I want that burn on things I KNOW the answer to.

For instance public business/government agency. I failed that a lot because although knew what it meant I’d always put in government business which it deems as incorrect.

I find wanikani really expensive, so it makes me wonder why people pay 90 bucks per year (or 200/300 for lifetime) just to not use it properly.
If this was something mandatory, like school, I’d understand. I halfassed quite a bit in my school years just to get over it, but wk is completly optional, there’s no timeframe that you need to do things on, and it’ll just harm the studies (that I assume you want to improve on since japanese is also optional to learn) you’re doing.
I think you just need to lower your apprentice count and take a break from lessons, so you lower your review count, as to not end in situations like this anymore. Its also good to take a break in general

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I’m doing wanikani so I can read more immerse more and therefore learn Japanese. I want to live in Japan next year. So I’m working really hard, doing all the reviews as they are available, but I would never cheat. That just seems counter productive. You’d need to do wanikani all over again to fix your broken memory.

You’ll fail at learning Japanese if you see it as a sport/game, it is a communication tool. Use and Learn it as such. Otherwise why else would you learn Japanese?

I would understand if you love the art of caricature and wanna draw all the kanji. But I dunno, then wanikani only exists as a memory helper and you’d be better off doing heisigs book.

So, there’s a lot going on this thread. However, my initial reaction was to ask @kun123 these three questions:

  • I’m genuinely curious–why did you consider 200 reviews an emergency?
  • What is your understanding of WaniKani, and how it gives you reviews and lessons?
  • How do you intend to use WaniKani in your studies?

The reason these came to mind is that my initial reaction was that one of two possible misunderstandings is at work:

  • Possibly, the OP might not fully understand the intent behind WaniKani and Spaced Repitition, OR
  • Most likely, I don’t have enough context to know how the OP means to use WaniKani for study.

Now, to answer the initial question:

I have done that only once or twice, but I never used it to put the correct answer in. I always try to give the answer on my own, first. Then, if I get it wrong, I use the eye to see what I was messing up on. The split screen that I had was only ever there to get more context than what is available during a session.

Finally, if I’ve ever had reviews stack up to a point beyond what I wanted, say over 200, I would tackle them a little at a time, until my Review Forecast numbers were back down. To ensure this happened, I did not do any additional Lessons until those Review Forecast numbers were where I wanted them.

For me personally, the tradeoff is that it means I don’t see as many kanji or vocab as quickly, but do remember those that I’m supposed to know better. This tradeoff is what I need for vocab and kanji.

For others, the other direction might be the better choice. Plowing through a whole bunch of kanji and vocab and recognizing, but not necessarily remembering as much, might be more amenable to their goals.

It all depends.