I have downloaded Quizlet app and started studying radicals from andreiblue radical collection,I have a few questions in mind.
do I need to practice writting radicals when studying newly ?
I studied few kanji from Heisenberg RTK book,
Some of the radical symbol and kanji from that book are overlapping . But I saw different names for such symbols in my Quizlet flash cards .
My question here is why they are differentiating radical symbol and kanjis which are having same symbols with different meanings ?
Long answer:
I donāt know the andreiblue radical collection. However, the radicals in Remembering the Kanji (and Wanikani) are not the same as the āofficialā radicals used in kanji dictionaries. Some DO match these āofficialā meanings, but others are given arbitrary definitions in order to make them more memorable. Still others do not exist as āofficialā radicals, but are considered radicals within RTK and WK because they show up so often in kanji. Similarly, Quizlet and andreiblue likely have their own arbitrary definitions, though I havenāt used those resources.
I donāt study writing at all, unless you count weekly ęøé lessons. I think many people who use resources like Wanikani are similarāif you know a kanjiās reading, then you can write the kanji using a computer or phone, so handwriting is unnecessary in todayās electronic world. The time you would spend practicing writing could be spent learning new kanji or doing other studies instead.
Of course, if youāre someone who just enjoys physical writing, have at it, thatās cool, too.
Also, RTKās author is James Heisig, not Heisenburg! Heisenburg is a scientist, and Walt from Breaking Bad uses his name as a pseudonym. I think this is a great mix up though, and now Iām imagining a bald Heisig with a top hat cooking up contraband kanji
Most places that use radicals for mnemonics are using a loose definition of radical that basically means the same as ākanji partsā. Thereās no official way to break kanji into parts, so when you do, you can do it in different ways if you want.
But it would help us in the long run for learning kanjis ? Even though there is no official way to split kanji in to radicals we can use our radical knowledge to split it right ?
Great answer but I couldnāt disagree more about not writing. Digital connections with words and meanings are different when not acted out. Iāll cite some of the studies being done if you like when I get over this flu. I have friends that teach Japanese - and English - to students and they have been informed to keep having kids write by hand. Supposedly the next iteration of kaniwani and maybe wanikani (?) will have stroke order?
Iām actually the type who enjoys physical writing, so Iāve often considered practicing it. Iād be really happy if you elaborated on what you mean about digital connections. Do you mean that there is a fundamental difference in the mental representation of a kanji depending on whether it was studied via handwriting versus a digital review system like Wanikani or Anki?
If that is what you mean, I definitely agree. My brain lacks detailed knowledge of most kanjiāI can recognize and distinguish them easily, but there are very few I could write or even describe accurately.
And that is unfortunate, I agree, but itās enough for meāI can read novels, signs, instructions etc. and write emails and texts, and thatās all I really need. For me, handwriting doesnāt serve much purpose. Would it be nice? Yes, and eventually (after finishing wanikani) I may go back and practice writing, but for now Iād rather spend the time studying something else.
I am really interested in the studies youāre talking about, however. And if there is something I donāt understand, I want to know! Thanks~~~
Some knowledge helps, but you shouldnāt expect too much. All āradicalsā were invented after the kanji themselves were defined, so they are not an absolute construction rule where you are sure to know something about a kanji you havenāt seen before.
Iām interested myself in the history of kanji, but most things of what the kanji nowadays are considered to show are not really helpful to remember the reading or the meaning, just because people a few thousand years ago thought differently.
For example this å level six kanji given as front, before in WK, and seems to show a foot, a boat and a knife historically (only the knife still looks as you would expect). How would it help to know that the knife å is the radical here?
Look at this site that collects historical versions of that kanji:
I feel similarly, I can visually distinguish many kanji when I see them, but I wouldnāt be able to write them or even tell you what theyāre made of. Your example å is pretty good. I recognize it instantly, but if I hadnāt seen it in the last 10 seconds, I donāt think I could write it.
I feel I might know the shapes a lot better if I did some writing practice.
Sorry and this might seem shocking but I really have no idea how to use a script. I just tried to download TangoRisto and it just aināt happening. I donāt see any download button. Shouldnāt matter if Iām using Safari should it? And like, where does a script go if I am able to download it?
I am still collecting papers and stuff for me. As said I am in recovery from an influenza variant - I think I may have created - but which by all accounts is genomically covered in this seasonās flu vax so get one. I do science. My brilliant colleagues do scripts and programs and algorithms and digital genetic sequencing and I am at least twice their ages.
Anyway check out what the US Navy did in response to slamming a Japanese ship (and others) a few months ago. Back to pencils and compasses and paper. Because of the digital/manual disconnect we are seeing pop up in weird areas of human performance and behavior.
I donāt know whether there is a way to use userscripts on Safari or not, but the Visual Guide on How To Install A Userscript does not include instructions for Safari, only Firefox and Chrome. If there are userscripts for Safari, there probably arenāt very many of them. I would just use Chrome or Firefox, then read the above guide, that method makes it really easy!
I donāt know what TangoRisto is. I use Tampermonkey for userscripts, which is the Chrome version. Once you install Tampermonkey or Greasemonkey, an icon will appear to the right of the search bar, right next to Adblock or any other add-ons you may have installed. Then you can just click that icon to see what scripts are running or access your dashboard.