[Beginner] Genki VS BunPro

Use all of them. Use Genki for a roadmap of grammar points, read the explanations for the grammar on Tae Kim too, and use Bunpro and its book path function to remember.

Once you’re done with that, switch Bunpro to JLPT mode and clear JLPT N5 and N4, as Genki doesn’t cover some of those points.

From there, it’s up to you where to go.

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Do they really talk that fast normally?

Are there other resources/YouTube channels just like this video that you’d recommend? It was actually quite fascinating watching this video (and not as impossible to follow as I had imagined). Thanks!!

Yes, they do actually speak that fast. I’ve been watching a few YouTube channels for native Japanese and they all speak fast (the ones I was just watching today was Kimagure Cook: https://www.youtube.com/user/toruteli).

Spanish works that way too

I would pay someone to take curedolly content, and re-recite only the important bits in normal voice and none of this “you have been taught all wrong” stuff.

Also watching cure dolly (and Matt vs Japan) for some reason puts YouTube algo on me recommending Jordan Peterson and other incel/alright stuff that is a chore to trim to keep my recommendations relevant…

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Me, too. I can’t stand her voice, even though the content in itself is pretty interesting.

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I agree, Human Japanese is really good. I loved that book :+1:t2:

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It is in fact a bit weird and takes some getting used to. After a while I don’t mind it that much, but yeah, it definitely put me off at first. I’m glad I endured and continued anyway because she’s really good at what she does.

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I’ve enjoyed the 日本語の森 series on youtube that presents N3 and higher material in Japanese only. He repeats or simplifies grammar point more knowing the audience in non-native compared to the video example here.

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Did anyone read the Cure Dolly book? Is it any good?

Genki is a good start and you have it (which is more than most people). If you have the CDs, use them, they will help with listening. If the grammar points are not clear enough for you, google the grammar to learn more. This will actually help you remember grammar points more easily. My Japanese classes used Genki and they were great, but I also had a teacher to clarify things. Personally, I have no experience with Bunpro, and I am not sure it is super necessary for myself.

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Just as an update, I have tried bunpro and it is pretty decent. It has a nice interface and decent examples for sentences. It also links to outside sources for more information on grammar points if you need more. It might be good to use if you do not have a teacher. Plus it is super cheap.

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Glad you like it, I hope they continue to attract new users such as yourself to continue to evolve the interface. Just the number of examples alone and glossary aspect sold me but productive input methods are far superior IMO than say 1st generation SRS methods like Anki (essentially just a flashcard opinion poll). Productive input is also much more difficult to design given all the grey zones overlap with grammar but they have a good system and the user feedback really helps to keep it cleaner. It can’t compare with a kanji system like WK which his inherently far less subjective. Also notable, the number of grammar points per JLPT level surpasses any grammar exam prep book I’ve seen (or least I can say for N5-N3, not sure for N2, N1 obviously still in production). Plus they started their own in-house app design from the very start. I hope they finish audio examples soon.

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I’ve read it, but it is lacking unless you don’t have access to YouTube, I guess. Everything is covered more in-depth on the YouTube channel. Sometimes it feels like she’s reading from the book. :smiley:

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The CureDolly book went with the first set of videos. The newer set of videos is much better and covers more. A book version is in the works, but not anytime soon.

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The problem with Genki (1+2), is that whenever get the textbook out, or even read the word ‘Genki’, I read it in the voice of the donkey from Shrek saying ‘DONKEY!’, and this kinda makes my studies that little bit less serious. A tough problem!
On a more serious note though, Genki has some useful examples and explains grammar concepts well. Minna no Nihongo is a bit slow, but also excellent. After picking up some basic grammar though, the best way to go is listening and speaking, as your understanding will be bolstered by what you pick up from there.

yeah I cant deal with that doll. cant concentrate

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