At end of free trial. Suggestions?

Hello I’m at the end of the free trial for a while now, only doing reviews.
I want to buy the lifetime subscription but I have to wait untill the christmass sale before I can buy it for half the price.
Any suggestions on what or where I should improve my Japanese the best way in the meantime?
I also use duolingo for fun in the meantime.

Thanks already for all the help :v:

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Sounds like a good opportunity to start working through a textbook (or an online grammar guide like Tae Kim’s).

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I’ll check out this Tae Kim.
Also I do have a genkin book which I haven’t used yet maybe it’s time to open it indeed. I never really felt ready for it yet before

Thanks for the tips

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I haven’t used Genki specifically, but generally textbooks like that assume that you don’t have any Japanese knowledge at all. So you’re definitely ready :slight_smile:

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Better to continue with a subscription up to christmas to see if you really stick with it, the drop out rate is crazy.

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I mean, the biggest limiting factor in WK progression is raw time, and 2 months is not insubstantial. that’s a few levels. Might be worth the 20 bucks for a monthly subscription until christmas? Your money though.

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Unless money is very, very tight, I’d just buy the yearly subscription, since they prorate it so that you only pay for the portion of it that you actually used if you upgrade to lifetime. It would cost you less than the monthly subscription if you want to keep going with WK until December.

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In the meantime while waiting for December to arrive unless you decide to get the yearly and then get it prorated you could read Crystal Hunters. Crystal Hunters is a manga that teaches Japanese so you could learn vocabulary and grammar. I love learning grammar from them personally.

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You can use the Anki WK deck in the meantime or something. And delete Duolingo while you’re at it.

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Ooh that sounds like a very good idea I’ll give it a shot :+1:

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Join the POLL-cult, if you haven’t already. Definitely one of my strongest motivators to stay and keep moving forward.

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What is the poll cult if I may ask? :sweat_smile:

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Go to the Campfire section and click on a thread with “POLL” in the name. We dance around the campfire and sacrifice Coelacanths to the Crabigator, you’ll love it.

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Ooh I did not know this! I just purchased a monthly subscription :upside_down_face:

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I see a very big poll with alot of things I don’t know anything about for now but I’ll give it a go :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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If you do use Genki, you can find anki decks for the Genki vocabs. It’ll be easier to read the textbook when you don’t have much problem with the vocab and kanji used. I like the grammar explanation in Tae Kim better though (sometimes Genki grammar explanation can be quite confusing, but I like the variety of exercises in Genki). While using Genki, I also like to supplement it with ToKini Andy YouTube videos.

Recently I also tried out bunpro and found it helpful for my grammar study, though it also has subscription fee if you want to use all of their features. After going through half of Genki I, I had a boost of confidence like “wow I’ve started to ‘know’ things”…but bunpro made me realize that there are a lot of things that I don’t know yet, even for those stuffs that I thought I already learned sufficiently from Genki.

Additionally, if you find it challenging to start and stick with a habit, you might consider going for WK monthly or yearly subscription for now while waiting for the lifetime sale (as others said, I believe it’ll be prorated when you decide to switch to lifetime). If you go on a hiatus with WK, you might be less inclined to return to your WK study again in the future.

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Thank you for your reply, I’m glad I get so many different sources to study from the replies I get here. I have never used anki yet though because I haven’t looked up how to download decks for it yet.
I will definatly check out these youtube channels also. :slight_smile:
For now my biggest habit is studying by phone when I am at work so WK comes in very handy for this.
I have lots of fun studying Japanese since languages is the only thing that really intrests me :blue_heart:
日本語 is my favourite language but I always thought in the past it would be too hard without a teacher.
Too bad I didn’t pick it up way earlier but having visited the country for 3 times now pushed me into just going for it :+1:

Sorry if my posts are too long ^^

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Genki or Minna No Nihongo. Those are the go to’s if your just starting. There is also Tae Kim if you have more advanced vocab but almost no grammar knowledge. Its rare, but it happens.

I personally love Genki and think its the best way to start IMO.

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I also mainly use my phone for my daily routines since it’s easily accessible. That’s why WK, anki, and bunpro are suitable for this. Setting up anki is quite daunting, but you can follow some examples from YouTube.

Usually I do the textbook studies during weekends. The number of exercises in a textbook can be a lot and time consuming, so some people even opt to completely skip using a textbook. When I newly tried bunpro, I did question myself whether I should just stick with bunpro and drop Genki, but then I decided to stick with both because I get different benefits from them. For example, in WK and bunpro, the question style is just “typing in the answer”. Meanwhile, in Genki, there are exercises on listening, creating sentences, etc.

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Check out Bunpro for Grammar SRS with structure and a great community possibly.
Otherwise there are plenty of good youtube channels that teach from the ground up as well, if thats more your thing.
Get into immersion as early as possible even if it seems daunting and you dont understand very much - it makes a hell of a difference. Graded Readers, NHK Easy, Yuyos Podcast on Youtube, Slice of Life Manga for an younger audience etc.
I am not a fan of core vocab decks at all. Can work for some and be useful, but I like the immersion-based approach more- you pick up what you need as you progress. Sure, at the start those are most/tons of words you will need to look up, but will get less. Especially as the super basic words repeat so often, immersion will work as an SRS without you actively putting them in one.

Also another reason for sth. like Bunpro- their very own Bunpro Grammar order builds their example sentences based on all prior Bunpro lessons. So if you follow their order the sentences will get progressively more advanced and priorly learned grammar points end up being reinforced in all following lessons examples. (And you will automatically learn lots of basic words in those examples)

Satori Reader is also cool I guess.

And really lots of other stuff.

It also depends on what you wanna focus on first. Eg. I dont live in Japan and never will, at most visiting/having some friends. My priority has always been reading and listening comprehension all the way back to 2011 when I first picked up JP. Speaking/Writing comes after for me.

Now if you need to learn speaking fast I definitely recommend getting either a teacher to correct mistakes and help you along so you avoid developing bad habits or finding Japanese natives on italki or similar sites to help you out on your journey, while you possibly help them with a bit of English in return.

I have been there and tried Genki and co. and while textbooks like that surely are good, its too stiff for me. Bunpro is more flexible and I like their own explanations + additional resources if needed. Nowadays I would at most recommend a Textbook alongside such sites like Bunpro to get another perspective maybe.

Edit: Also dw too much when learning grammar about getting the nuances / understanding everything that is taught to you. See textbooks, apps, websites, channels that teach you grammar just as a “tool”. You want to recognize the grammar point in the wild and have a rough idea what it is about. As you read and hear more and see it in different constructions you will get a better understanding of it.
There is a hell of a difference between recognizing a grammar point and reinforcing what you read/getting a clearer picture and encountering a grammar point without knowing it beforehand at all or possibly without recognizing it is one at all.

Learning resources are to get you started and give you all the means you need to start understanding a language- nothing more and nothing less. I feel thats a mistake many people tend to make while sticking too much to “cramming vocab, grammar, Kanji” etc. and avoiding immersion far too long

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