I kept on messing this one up in reviews because i would type a second み, why is it not しくみみ? The Kun’yomi reading for 組 is くみ, is there a particular reason that the み is explicitly written after the kanji even though the み is in the reading for 組? Thanks ahead of time

組 also has a kun’yomi reading of く.む That is, as a verb 組(く)む. This may not be the actual reason for it, but it could at least help you rationalize it in your head if you just treat 仕組(しく)み as a compound verb in noun form. Also, there are a good number of words like this, where it can be written …

If anything, 組（くみ） seems like an odd one out, since normally you’d expect a noun created from 組む to keep its okurigana. I’m not sure if there’s a particular reason other than “some people started writing it this way and it stuck”. You might find it interesting to look up cases like this on jpdb. It…

It’s common for words like this to internalize the okurigana into the kanji, especially with signage like 受付 (うけつけ). But as you said, the true kun’yomi reading for 組 is く, and it just happens to have internalized the み in the noun version to make 組 read くみ.

For sure, it’s common to internalize, and it’s also common to not internalize (e.g. 読み、歩き、助け). Trying to make common signs shorter and clearer could absolutely be the reason for this process (I don’t know if it was or not). And same for 組, it seems like something one might have wanted to write as a…

[image] Ka5: If anything, 組（くみ） seems like an odd one out, since normally you’d expect a noun created from 組む to keep its okurigana. I’m not sure if there’s a particular reason other than “some people started writing it this way and it stuck”. Mmm. The official Japanese government recommendat…

Okurigana can have different variations in use , and not necessarily all are official / allowed by the government. Official ones may also be different from other related words. 話(はなし) is another common one that internalizes.

[image] Ka5: If anything, 組（くみ） seems like an odd one out, since normally you’d expect a noun created from 組む to keep its okurigana. I’m not sure if there’s a particular reason other than “some people started writing it this way and it stuck”. There are actually a bunch like those, where the …

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Oh that’s really nice! I wish I had known about this when I went through WK, it would have saved me some time (although I guess it would have cheated me of those “hey wait a minute” moments during reviews). I think WaniKani should really point these things out. They sometimes do, they often don’t.

仕組み reading confusion. Exceptional word?

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