チーズスイートホーム: Week 4 Discussion (Chapters 10-12)

Yes that makes sense! I thought page 95 was affirmative and negative versions of the same verb but I couldn’t find one that worked. It’s the cat dropping the r again!

So page 93 would be:

おこる - to get scolded
の - explanatory particle
やだ - not a chance, no way

Thanks again!

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だからさ - because + assertion particle さ
こうやって - like this or “you do it and”?
おまえが遊ぶ物なんだぞ - there’s a toy for you to play with

Is this right? Not sure how to combine it all, either, unless it’s supposed to be like that.

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So it’s “to (come) at” + “come!” = “come at me!” ?

Edit: on べ: http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/browse/be-/

Edit 2: いーものめっけ - no idea what this is. Good thing somethingsomething? Fan tl: I found something cool.

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だからさ, in casual contexts, is an expression that you use after you tried to explain something and it seems you weren’t understood. A rough translation would be “Look, like I was saying,…”

こうやって, this is indeed こうやる (like this), in て form (do it like this, and… ) After this sentence, there’s a " … " that simply means dad never finishes that sentence. Maybe that’s why the next part (“A toy for you to play with”) feels a bit disconnected?

This is いいもの (良い物) => “good thing”, “nice thing” +
めっけ is a colloquial version of "みつける”, “to discover, to find”. If you check jisho you will see “みっける” among the “Other forms” section.

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Yup it’s there. And thanks for everything else, too.

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Thank you for all your great questions @Nenad, but I’m lost a bit here… which page is this? I keep going through the chapter but can’t find it. And thank you @2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz for your wonderful answers!

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No wonder I couldn’t find it… I was looking in the previous chapter. Thanks for letting me know the page number!

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This was really helpful thanks. (Especially as I was reading as ぬっけ instead of めっけ…)

There is also a separate jisho entry for めっける here.

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New week’s discussion is here \o/ Chapters 13-15

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A bit late reading these chapters. This manga is somewhat fun and very cute, but I’m left feeling a bit disappointed after reading this week. I had to look up way too much to understand what was being said and then the contents weren’t that interesting (cute, but not that interesting). I’ve gotten to a new place with my Japanese. Before it was enough that it was Japanese and it was interesting to just decipher it. Now I want a bit more, especially if it is a bit hard. Or maybe, it was just these chapters where I seemed to only be able to understand a couple of things by myself. :sweat:

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I try to think of the words I don’t know at first as an opportunity to practice using that oh so important context to figure things out. It’s not 100% the same, but getting used to looking for cues can help when important things start being omitted in more advanced speech.

If Chi is just not at the level of difficulty/interest that you want, maybe try the beginner book club or wait until the next book here?

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I’m not sure what to say in reply or even if I should write a reply.

These chapters frustrated me because I couldn’t infer meaning in almost any sentence, because so many sentences were all unknown words, (just a quirk of these chapters) and therefore I had to look it all up, toggling between the manga and looking at the vocab sheet for every speech bubble on a page gets exhausting and makes the reading disjointed. And the cuteness of the manga couldn’t make up for it.

Thanks for the advice, although unnecessary in this case. I just needed to express my frustration a bit, and I wasn’t looking for advice.

Could someone help me with page 88, please? The father says “お前が遊ぶ物なんだぞ”

I never understood what the なん part in sentences. What does なん mean? I know they’re both particles, but what do they mean?

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It’s explanatory-tone んだ, which needs be preceeded by a な when it follows a noun.

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I know that feeling! You feel like you are making some progress and then you get a brutal reminder of how little you really know! Hang in there, hopefully each difficult week is one step closer to understanding this tricky language a little better.

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Yup, exactly that.

Thankfully I also read graded readers which are right at my level or just +1 so I can learn a bit easier from reading and enjoy it.

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I’m usually the opposite way: Most things feels like I know nothing, but then I get to a line or page where I got everything and feel I’ve gotten so far! :rofl:

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Where might I find these “graded readers” of which you speak?

For a full list, check out the Graded readers and parallel texts book club. I’m a regular poster there, checking in as I finish volumes of the graded readers series I decided to buy, which right now I am finishing rather slowly since I also read Chi and some other things. :slight_smile:

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