よつばと! Vol 14 Discussion Thread (Yotsuba&! Reading Club)

ことができる is “to be able (to); to be possible (to)”, right?
It just doesn’t sit well with me as a sentence.

おまえに話したいこと - things I want to tell you / talk to you about
ができる想像ができん - I can’t imagine (?)

“I can’t imagine having anything I want to talk to you about.” How about this?

Which ends up being the same. Ugh, the English and the Spanish translation are different! D:<

The way I think you mean to parse it is like this:

おまえに話したい - to want to talk to you
ことができる想像 - ???
ができん - can’t

Otherwise:

おまえに話したいことができる想像 - an imagination where (I’m able/it’s possible) to want to talk to you
ができん - can not

I’m just confused because of all the words. :weary:

I say the faces are cumulative in those two panels.

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I read it as “I can’t imagine being able to want to talk to you”

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It sounds a bit weird, but I think it’s the closest translation we’ll get! :smiley:

The Yen Press translation reads “I cannot imagine what I would want to say to you.”

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Chapter 95! :pancakes: :ribbon:

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Only 3 more to go!

Although, now that I look, I would say we have enough for another volume. D:<

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Can someone explain to me the ticket they bought, as shown on page 121? It should look something like this:

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Which is to say, where the ticket in the book reads 池袋, it should be their origin station, and where it ways 170円区間, it should say 530, what they paid. Instead, their origin station and the 530 are squished up the top, and they apparently have a ticket to travel from Ikebukuro to the 170-yen area. Unless they bough some kinda two-stage ticket (and indeed, they do change to the JR lines at Ikebukuro), except that’s not reflected at all in the dialogue on the previous page.

Also, while we’re at it, there’s no station on the Seibu network named 紫陽花. Or, indeed, anywhere in Japan. Such lies! Also, near as I can tell, there’s no station on the Seibu lines out of Ikebukuro that currently costs 530 yen to get from, but Koma in Saitama costs 540, so maybe that was just changed in last year’s sales tax increase. Or maybe the 170 is included in the 530, and the Seibu trip only costs 360…

… Which, come to think of it, may be exactly what’s going on: he’s instructed Yotsuba to buy a ticket that costs more than is required to reach any station on the line, so the machine automatically issues the extra amount as a ticket that can be spent on other lines. Like JR.

I’ve… never actually bought a Seibu ticket. I used my Suica card when I rode on it last year. If only there were someone in this thread who just so happened to live near the Seibu Ikebukuro line…

Anyway, Yotsuba in the bobble hat is so cute that it should be illegal.

Last panel of page 121: “If you let go my hand, it’s all over.” Immediate next panel on the following page: Lets go his hand.

Gasp. There’s a typo on page 125 - it says お出口 instead of オレンジ. :stuck_out_tongue:

Page 127, a whole station full of people are suddenly questioning their entire lifestyle.

Page 132-4, poor Yotsuba. Actually, on my first trip to Japan, I made a similar mistake - didn’t realise the Shinkansen tickets they give you when you make a booking with the JR Pass weren’t meant to be fed through the machines, except I walk so fast that I was through the gates before the barrier closed. Though, I’m pretty sure I didn’t accidentally hold a stranger’s hand afterwards.

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Surprisingly enough…! :wink:

Yes, all the time I’ve been in Japan I’ve worked in Ikebukuro, and for 99% of the time I’ve lived on the Seibu Ikebukuro Line. However, as for ticket prices…

… until this work-from-home period, my company always gave me the money to get a commuter pass from my home station to Ikebukuro, so I never gave it a second thought. Commuter passes are great because you can actually get on and off at any station within the commute, and use it on days you are not working too.

All that has gone now, sadly, and on the very rare occasion that I do use a train (perhaps 4 times in the past 4 months), I do the same as you and just use my Pasmo. In fact, thinking about it, I don’t think I’ve ever used a paper ticket in Tokyo.

Anyway, looking at their ticket, my Japanese isn’t good enough! I’ll ask the expert when I see her tonight.

However, what I don’t understand is why they are starting their journey on the Seibu Line at all (even given that 紫陽花 may not be a real place). They live in Kansai, right? How did they end up somewhere along the Seibu Line? (Unless they arrived by rocket, as per page 118).

However, after that, the pages are wonderful! Every working day of my life for almost a decade I have seen the same view that Yotsuba sees on page 126 as she pulls into the station, and the route from the Seibu Line to the Yamanote is also very, very familiar to me!

In many ways this is the volume I’m most looking forward to reading, just for all these pictures of places I know so well. I’ve lived in Tokyo longer than I’ve lived anywhere else in my life and know this city better than anywhere else (especially after being a tour guide here as well), so looking at these drawings is wonderful.

But also sad. Look at the glorious station on page 141, which is being torn down as even as we speak. (The replacement station has been built a couple of hundred yards up the road. But instead of preserving this one, they are demolishing it).

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They live in Somewhere. Great pains have been taken to avoid being specific. What makes you think they’re in Kansai?

(Actually, I’m pretty sure they’re explicitly not from Kansai, because Grandma was originally from Kansai and is trying to shed her accent.)

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Oh, yes, I was confused by the accents! I remember now that you posted a link to the actual shopping centre they visited when Yotsuba got her bear, and that was near the Seibu Line. Blimey, Yotsuba is my neighbour! (One among the millions who live along this line!)

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I want Yotsuba to be my neighbor. :weary:

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Yes, that’s it (I confirmed with the missus) - the ticket is from their (made-up) station on the Seibu Line to Ikebukuro, and then travel to the value of 170 yen on the JR.

The ticket doesn’t actually say JR, but it does say East Tokyo trains or something, which is close enough. The other thing that convinces me of this is the fact they don’t need to buy another ticket at Ikebukuro. Now, I don’t know how much the ticket is from Ikebukuro to Harajuku on the JR Yamanote, but 170 doesn’t sound too far off (if a bit cheap).

PS - looking at the date on the ticket… can we safely assume that volume 15 will be the Christmas edition?! Great! This is going to be brilliant! How will Yotsuba stop herself from exploding with anticipation?!

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Ah, nice to know my desperate theorising turned out to be correct. I’m just a bit curious as to precisely when Koiwai told the ticket machine that’s what he wanted. And how.

東日本会社線 - East Japan Company line (i.e. JR East).

I want to find an image of the map over the ticket machines at Ikebukuro - the one that shows all the prices for every station - but Google’s really not being forthcoming…

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Google is amazing!

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And CONVENIENTLY holds her finger over the year :rofl:
Yotsuba follows a narrative that changes with the seasons within the story, being less than a year, but stays up to date with whatever year we are currently in no matter how many years have passed since chapter one :wink:

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I still remember back in Chapter 1, when Grandma was showing off her brand new cell phone to her son:

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That had me laughing way too hard! :rofl:

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Chapter 96! :dog: :alien:

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