ご注文はうさぎですか miscellaneous discussion

If you read one chapter a month you also get to enjoy the series longer!

I’m probably going to start volume 9 this weekend. I reread volume 8 really quickly (2-3 chapters per day), but I’m going to try to read volume 9 a little more slowly, maybe one chapter per day. It will be another year until volume 10 comes out after all, so I don’t want to burn through all the chapters too quickly!

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I spend about eight months on volume 1, read bits and pieces of the first half of volume 2 over a year, and still have the rest of volume 2, so a chapter a month would be me going fast =D

The main reason I’ve been going slow not reading is all the kanji look-ups.

And ひとりぼっちの○○生活 having relatively few kanji I need to look up has spoiled me (even though I’ve neglected that series this past month or two as well).

Currently I have ぼっち set to read Sundays, but maybe I’ll alternate Sundays between that and ごちうさ. My current goal is one chapter per day reading, so this would actually get me through about two chapters of ごちうさ a month!

I definitely know the feeling. When the next volume of 三ツ星カラーズ comes out, I’m going to read only one chapter per week to really stretch it out. (I expect there to be a lot of really short chapters, which will help to stretch things out.)

This one has furigana, right? I haven’t really looked at my copy, but I think that was the case. If so I guess the few kanji lookups are from handwritten text?

I’m definitely not going to stretch out GochiUsa that much!

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No furigana*.

The series may be a good one for readers to try out when they hit about WK level 25, judging based on my look-ups.

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Being able to read so much kanji at a glance feels like a super power to me! (Even if there are some I don’t know yet in there.)

* Okay, there’s furigana on names upon first appearance.

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Oh good, I don’t like when there’s full furigana anyway!

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I’m not sure if anyone heard about the Clockwork Rabbit art from last year, but apparently it was based on a chapter from the manga! I thought it was just some random artwork being released, so I was surprised to see a chapter focused on it in volume 9. Suddenly having a bunch of sci-fi stuff show up in a slice of life manga made it quite a challenging chapter to read!

Sample art:

Chino

Sharo

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Here’s the bonus drawing from the end of that chapter. I love the different take on the character designs in this chapter.

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The last post was months ago, and I’m not exactly contributing to discussion, so I feel bad for posting this. But I wanted to let people know that Bookwalker has all available volumes for 200円 (+ tax if you’re in Japan) through the 25th. I’m not quite at the level of reading this yet, but for that price, I’m glad to have them for when I am ready. Maybe I’ll join you all eventually!

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That’s quite the sale! I’m honestly not sure I’ve ever seen GochiUsa on sale before. Thanks for sharing!

Just curious, but when do you think you’ll try reading the series?

It might be a while. There’d be a lot of kanji lookup involved, I’m sure. Grammar-wise, I’m officially at Lesson 13 of Genki, but I’ve skimmed the rest of Genki 2 and am already at least somewhat familiar with all but a couple points just from reading as it is. Unless you think that’s good enough to jump in.

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When I read the first volume, I was probably around level 40 on WaniKani and had similar (maybe slightly more) grammar knowledge compared to you, and I found it pretty hard. Lots of kanji and word lookups. Probably 30-60 minutes or longer per chapter (I don’t really remember at this point). I took a break after volume 2, but when I came back for volume 3 after about 9 months, having read 2 books and 16 volumes of other manga (and continuing to level up in WaniKani) in that time, I found it much much easier.

So in summary: if your WaniKani level accurately reflects your kanji knowledge, I’d definitely recommend waiting for a while. I think @ChristopherFritz tried reading it at a really early level and might be able to give a more direct assessment.

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Yeah, I think I was at wk level 14 or so before I reset last time, so still definitely a kanji beginner. I’ll see what ChristopherFritz has to say before making a decision, but I will probably have to wait a bit on this one. Really, I just couldn’t help letting anyone interested know about that awesome sale.

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(Slight backstory:)

Back in high school Japanese language class near the end of the 1990’s, I can’t recall (even considering my memory always having been bad) that we ever really had any useful learning of grammar. Even back then, I loved English grammar very much, so I can’t imagine I would forget learning grammar in Japanese class, besides all the ways to “conjugate ます”.

Fast forward a decade and a half, and I tried using some guides (such as Tae Kim), but nothing really “worked” for me to “get” the grammar. Then one December, I noticed that ごちうさ (which I’d seen the first season of on DVD) had a manga, and it was only available in Japanese.

I decided that that would be what I use to formally start to actually learn grammar from. I would read through it, look up every kanji, every vocabulary word, and (most importantly) every bit of grammar I encountered.

(/End backstory.)

I was essentially going in blind. I had a meager but fair understanding of a handful of particles, but I lacked a lot in everything else (except that I carried with me a vocabulary of around 2,000 words). Spoiler: The Venn diagram of words I knew and words in the volume did not overlap nearly as much as I had expected them to.

For the most part, I went through one four-panel strip per day, with 200 four-panel strips in the volume. Some days I spent half an hour looking up kanji, transcribing, looking up words, and looking up grammar. Other days I spent upwards of two hours. Early on, I was also writing up blog posts to help me absorb the grammar and vocabulary.

Pros:

  • I learned a lot of grammar along the way.
  • I picked up new vocabulary.

Cons:

  • I spent way too much time looking up kanji.
  • I forgot most of the new vocabulary I learned, even though I did daily Anki reviews for over a year.
  • I learned zero new kanji.

The following year, I joined WK, and joined the book club for Shirokuma Cafe, at which point I felt like I was starting from scratch on grammar. Yes, I’d learned and retained things from learning alongside reading ごちうさ, but I lacked enough exposure to really know them.

Thus, for anyone starting out on reading, I highly recommend holding off on ごちうさ. Instead, pick an Absolute Beginner Book Club manga to begin with, and build up your grammar from there. (Alongside any formal method you’re using, such as Genki.)

With the exception of maybe Chi’s Sweet Home, you can make just as much grammar progress from an Absolute Beginner Book Club as with ごちうさ, and you’ll have a support system built in to provide answers to any questions you may have, and to provide supplemental details and information.

Regardless, whatever you read early on, you should only expect marginal progress on learning and understanding grammar. It takes time seeing the same grammar over and over in different scenarios to really get to know it.

As for me, I plan to re-start GochiUsa volume two once I finish up WaniKani level 30 minimum. Based on volume one’s kanji, I figure that’ll put at having had exposure to about 90% of the kanji in it. (Whether I remember all the kanji I’ve learned from WK…)

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So with roughly level 14, it wouldn’t be hellish, but it would still be quite a bit of work as far as kanji goes. Vocab is probably going to be the main issue.

I think I’ll hold off for a bit on this one since I’d rather my experience of it be as much for pleasure as for studying. Thanks for sharing your experience!

You’d only be looking up about 450 unique kanji =D

And after completing level 30, that’s still about 205 kanji not yet covered. I definitely look forward to the day I reach level 60!

“Has everyone finished buying up physical copies of the original A5-sized release? Good. Here’s the first two volumes fit into a B5-sized release for your bookshelves.”

(I’m still digital, though. Decided to read through some more pages of volume two before bed last night, and somehow I made a decent amount of progress! WaniKani has served me well thus far!)

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Where do you see the quote about the sizes? Or are you just assuming what the new size will be? B5 seems to be the original size in the magazine, so I guess that would make sense. But confirmation would still be nice.

Personally, the A5 size is good enough for me. I’m unlikely to buy the new version if the bigger size is the only change. On the other hand, if it also comes with all the original color pages, then I might seriously consider it. In the magazine, I believe the first two pages of every single chapter are in color, but in the currently published volumes, only the first several pages of the entire volume are in color. So getting all the original color pages would be a huge upgrade.

Also, the first two volumes are only 120 pages each, so there’s an extra 16 pages in this new version. I wonder what for. Some full page exclusive art would definitely make me more interested.

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There was an announcement for this release back in May that said it’d be B5. I think today was the reveal of the cover and exact release date.

Let’s see if I can find it…

Aha, here:

『ご注文はうさぎですか?』の完全版コミックスが8月より刊行決定!

雑誌連載と同じ、B5サイズで『ごちうさ』の1コマ1コマの美しさをお届けします。カバーイラストは新規描き下ろし。雑誌連載時のカラーページは、カラーのまま収録します。

永久保存版の『ごちうさ』をどうぞお楽しみに。

Well, there you go! =D

I wonder if it will get a digital release with the color pages in color. It disappointed me so much that the color pages were in black and white for the digital release (same as physical). “Luckily” I’ve only bought the first two volumes in Japanese so far, just in case!

Side-note: The quote was my own silly writing about re-buying volumes, but based on having seen that this release would be an enticing B5. I own three releases/two sizes of Sailormoon (plus digital), but I think that’s enough multi-buying physical manga now that I’m digital.

Edit: Various sites list “Complete Blend 2” for a September 27 release (one month after Complete Blend 1). But no indication of digital that I can see yet.

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Good to know, thanks! I heard about the other announcements, so I’m not sure how I missed this one! I’ll still wait to hear reviews and find out what the extra pages are before I decide to buy. But in the end, I’ll almost certainly buy them and use it as an excuse to reread the series.

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Apparently the Complete Blend versions are going to cost 2500 yen each, compared to 720 yen for the regular volumes. At about 3.5 times the cost for twice the content, that’s a bit pricier than I was expecting. I thought it would be more like 2.5-3 times the cost. But honestly, with how popular the series is, they will still certainly succeed at that higher price point.

By the way, another thing I’d like to know is what paper material they will use for the color pages. There’s probably a good chance it’ll be the same glossy pages as the regular versions use. But Aria the Masterpiece used this really nice non-glossy paper, which I think is so much better, so I’m hoping they actually use something like that instead of the glossy paper.