Just wondering a question about pitch,
I am using KaniWani and want to learn the pitch accent as I go. For a kanji like January, the pitch accent image shows I suppose is Odaka (with the last open circle being down). But the sound is Heiban.
so I assume this kanji is Odaka. But when I memorize the pitch for this, I memorize the sound which is Heiban. But that last open circle is down and silent - so just wondering if you would mark this down as Odaka or Heiban?
I’m not quite sure why the last circle is open. I haven’t got to full sentences yet, so perhaps that last open circle that is down, is referring to what comes next in a sentence?
I’m wondering if I need to memorize 2 things:
the sound of this kanji is Heiban _ - - -
what comes next in a sentence is down (the open circle)
Just to clear something up, where you are saying “kanji” you really mean “word”.
Now to answer your question, odaka words when pronounced in isolation do in fact get pronounced the same as heiban. But when read in a sentence, the particle that follows the word is low for odaka but stays high for heiban.
Oh interesting, thanks, so in isolation odaka words are pronounced heiban.
I don’t quite know what you mean by “when read in a sentence, the particle that follows the word is low for odaka but stays high for heiban.”
Perhaps could you give an example. I know I am jumping ahead of myself as haven’t got quite to sentences but it would make things more clear if saw an example of a word that follows an Odaka word (like January) that is heiban, and a word that follows that is Atamadaka maybe.
the empty circle is where you would put a particle (particles play into pitch accent),
i.e. odaka words will sound like heiban if there isn’t a particle after the word - if you put a particle after an odaka word, that particle will attach low.