WaniKani "Context" section: at what point were you able to understand it?

I’m a beginner in Japanese. I’m currently going through Genki 1 and in WaniKani I am level 3. When doing WaniKani lessons I can hardly ever understand the “Context” and “Word use” sections.

If I keep studying Genki 1 and then Genki 2, when can I expect to be able to get more from those sections? Or maybe I won’t even by the end of Genki 2?

Has anyone had a similar experience?

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The biggest issue will be the words, around 30 you’ll know most. Besides whenever you start to read them, or books, it’s harder to apply grammar than knowing it.
I don’t personally read the Japanese though, just the English to get a sense of how the word is used

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Most of the context section (as in the word use examples) didn’t exist when I was doing the early levels that are full of it now, but…

I would think Genki 1 could get you to understand a lot of it, given that primarily you just need to know how the particles work. を, の, に, etc. That’s all so fundamental that the first Genki book should equip you with at least some idea of what they do.

The full example sentences, on the other hand? Pretty universally disliked around here. There are some scripts to add other examples (like one from anime I believe) if you’re so inclined. But the WK provided ones are often written at much too high of a level for someone just starting out.

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I don’t personally read the Japanese though, just the English to get a sense of how the word is used

That’s probably what I am supposed to do at this level. Thanks.

The full example sentences, on the other hand? Pretty universally disliked around here.

I don’t like them too. They are way too random, nothing like anything one might find when reading the usual beginner/intermediate material. They are in line with the crazy mnemonics though. Those I like a lot, as they have worked for me mostly.

There are some scripts to add other examples (like one from anime I believe) if you’re so inclined.

I was not aware of that. I will check it out. Thanks.

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Here you go :slightly_smiling_face:

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Thank you. You guys are awesome.

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I would normally look up Patterns of Use, in phrases and context anyway; before more recently, Patterns of Use and Common Word Combinations were added.

Context sentences have been existing for a while, much longer.

However, it is also true that, without some grammar and vocabularies, Patterns of Use might not be readable after all. Context Sentences may also include even more vocabularies, including those that are usually written with Kanji, but feigned easiness with Kana form.

My thought? Do read Patterns of Use / Common Word Combinations, but don’t take too much attention to context sentences, if you are somewhat a beginner. I see that Word Use’s may just be memorized, while of course, they can still be improved a lot.

Anime context sentences might be a better source of sentences, if it is to your liking; but it isn’t necessarily easier to really parse than WaniKani context sentences. (The truth is, Anime’s are easier; as WaniKani’s inappropriately use less Kanji.)

[Userscript]: Hide Context Sentence Translation somehow works including on Patterns of Use, and on Anime context sentences too.

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I will say this in the least bombastic way I can, so I will say this…

I fucking HATE WaniKani’s context sections as it uses kanji you technically dont even know with words you dont even know and somehow its supposed to reinforce the idea of how to use the vocab. It is one of the most piss poorly thought out parts and arguably one of the most important. It’s not i+1, its i+bananas.

Going back to WK after a couple years of reading though I can get through it fine, but it is still a missed opportunity if you ask me since the large appeal is the mnemonics, you could have made some memorable sentences that are easy to grasp the meaning as well.

WK thank you for all you do, but I never vented this until now.

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:rofl:笑笑笑

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Whaaat? Count me out of that “pretty universal” category. I LOVE the example sentences, they give me such a laugh. And it’s easy to find “straight” examples elsewhere.

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at this point, i get most of the context sentences. of course there are still tons of words, kanji or otherwise, which i don’t know. but with something like tenten reader (a browser plugin which pops up definitions and readings if you hover your mouse over japanese words) i can usually figure it out.

except when there’s like a dozen okurigana attached to the verb, then it gets iffy… :sweat:

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Yeah, we see plenty of people talking about enjoying the example sentences, so “universally disliked” is definitely an overstatement. We get positive and negative feedback about the example sentences.

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