I don’t know how many typo mistakes I can take before I snap. What are we gatekeeping by not having it? It’s not like there’s anything but bragging rights if people cheat and overuse the undo button if there ever is one. I’m genuinely so pissed off when I just want to go through my reviews fast, especially now that they’ve been piling up more and more and I set myself back a day or more just because my finger slipped. Is there literally anything I can do to avoid this other than finding some obscure extension that should be the developers’ job to provide?
Yeah, it can be frustrating. Unfortunately, the only workaround is to use userscripts, but they’re honestly quite simple to set up! I personally use a Tampermonkey extension called Wanikani Double-Check, which solves this issue!
Side note: you haven’t “set yourself back” - you’ll be done with level 60 when you’ve done 9226 lessons. Relax and slow down. There’s no meaningful difference between finishing in a year, finishing in a year and a half, finishing in 2 years. I should have put “finishing” in quotes. It’s less of a bright line and more of a continuum. You’ll be able to start reading WELL before level 60, and once you start doing that, WK becomes more of an “extra” than a necessity.
Also get the double-check script if it makes you that mad.
That’s a nice mindset and all, but not all of those 9226 lessons are available at once, and missing a level up kanji guru can mean you don’t have access to any lessons.
Then take a day off?
You don’t suddenly become fluent in Japanese the day you complete WaniKani. You’re not completely clueless the day before. You’re putting too much weight on being in a hurry.
One guy’s opinion.
If you’re using your phone to review, I recommend downloading Tsurukame or a similar app. They all include anti-typo options. I agree that if you’re focussing on speed at all, having some sort of redo option is a must.
I’m grateful for typos because they allow me to repeat the items and cement my knowledge. Somewhere around level 12 the amount of reviews becomes overwhelming and I keep discovering that I’ve forgotten things that should be easy, so pushing some items back a few days allows to learn them better.
If true typos are that much of a consistent problem when working with a keyboard,
it may be that you’re going too fast. Take that extra half-second to pause before you hit the enter key, or work on some typing exercises to increase your accuracy.
It’s only going to get worse when you have issues with synonyms WK won’t accept and the like. Save yourself the sanity and just get doublecheck.
If it’s typos you’re making in Japanese that’s the issue, be aware that IMEs in the real world are just as unforgiving. If you’re going to be typing in Japanese ever, you need the accuracy that WaniKani is trying to teach you. And yes, I suppose it’s true that an IME won’t go “you messed up! try again tomorrow!”, it’s still the case that every typo you need to go back and fix is gonna slow your typing just that little bit more.
Maybe it would help to look at it not as someone in a “hurry” but as someone who is trying to maintain a routine.
Well, the difference is approximately 1000 kanji, which you can be tripping over and looking at for the first time, or reinforcing during that reading. Japanese learning is a lifelong thing, good mindset to have, but that doesn’t mean it’s good to be wasteful for no reason. It’s still a time game; everything you spend time doing takes away from elsewhere. WK’s spaced repetition system is pretty far from optimal, but it’s ruining the entire SRS concept for any card every time it’s failed for a reason other than not actually remembering.
I agree with you about WK becoming an extra side thing, but that’s all the more reason to not unnecessarily spend extra time here. In the long term, typos and synonym errors add up. Best to just override them and put that time towards that reading.
But this should really be a very small number. I make maybe one or zero typos in a review session. Know why? I’m not rushing. I look at what I typed before I press enter.
I’ve never gotten double-check for a few reasons (plus I’m old and stubborn). One, being able to type it reliably is part of knowing it. If it’s tricky to type, practice it. Two, making typos lets me know I’m rushing, and rushing leads to way more errors than just typos. I mistake similar-looking ones, i screw up the rendaku, I type “to conserve” for 省くfor the millionth time even though I know the actual answer – I’d rather just slow down.
I mean, I don’t expect everyone to be like me but I guess everyone rushing in here to blame everyone else but themselves for their problems gets on my nerves. You kids get off my lawn!
Edit: synonym errors, I’m totally with you. Also the inconsistency errors when it either does or doesn’t want “something” for a transitive verb, or it’s “counter for X” or “X counter”, that kind of thing. I don’t have anything against anyone who uses double-check. Cursing out WaniKani for not providing it is going a little far.
Though I don’t think there is much difference between just less than 1 year and a few months over one year (if one can maintain near-max speed).
Not sure if it is mentioned yet, but 30 levels value more than latter 30 (and it’s possible to do extras in kitsun or Anki more than 60, but I don’t particularly recommend). I felt the fading myself around 30-40 as well.
Furthermore, I see synonym errors as not only false negatives, but also false positives. Anki mode could be a sane option, though I used not only Double-Check but No Cigar.
I completely agree with you here. A typo should be something out of the ordinary. Happens occasionally to everyone, but if it happens to you @Katsumari so often that it’s significantly affecting your level up, then you need to slow down and focus on going accuracy.
I relearned how to touch type with all fingers on both hands last year. It took a lot of practice. And I noticed that when I think of going fast I inevitably make typos, have to go back to correct them and this makes my typing slower overall. But when I focus on accuracy then I am going fast, especially on longer text, because having to correct typos wastes a lot of time and throws off the flow.
Oh, and doing reviews on a phone is always slower (at least for me, a teenager might disagree). Whenever I have a big pile of reviews I sit down at my keyboard, fullscreen wk, clear my head, and focus on the reviews.
If you have an iphone, I recommend the Tsurukame app for doing WK reviews. The typos were my biggest frustration before I started using that app.
While we’re griping though, is there really a difference between “look at” and “view”? Really?
My take on it is that while “look at” and “to view” are quite similar (although the first seems to me to be more active and focused on something specific vs. the second being more passive and indicating a broader target ) I would not want to get into my head “view” and “look at” being the same and interchangeable. It would sound very odd if were to say “I love this spot, the look at is spectacular from here”.
Well, yes it would, mostly because the “view” here is a noun, so this example is a bit apples-and-oranges.
Yes, indeed. That is why I mentioned that for me “look at” and “to view” I think of as being quite similar, while “look at” and “view” I do not . I.e. if “view” were to be considered an acceptable answer it should be as “to view”, not just as “view” - explicitly calling out noun vs. verb.