The 🤼 プロレス thread! Learning Japanese through pro wrestling

Finished translating the April 13 TJPW show, which was Juria Nagano’s graduation!

Juria actually had two matches on this show. The first was a tag match where she teamed up with Moka and Kaya against Shino, Aino, and Pom. A nice last chance for her to wrestle some people on the roster she hadn’t faced before.

This show also had some fun developments after a tag match featuring the three new champions (Miu, Suzume, Arisu) vs Shoko, Wakana, and Himawari. You’d think that the champions would easily be able to stomp a team which contains two rookies, but you’d be WRONG! Shoko Nakajima is just that good!! I remember thinking as I watched this “ooh, these Shoko vs Miu exchanges are pretty exciting! I’d love to see a singles match between them!” and hey, guess who got her wish? Shoko got a surprise pinfall over Miu, netting herself a title shot, and giving her teammates an opening to shoot their shot, too. Yay!

Here’s the post-match:

Nakajima: “Wait. Miu… I’ll get straight to the point; please let me challenge for your belt. Since it’s a request from your senpai, you’ll do it without complaint, right?”

Miu: “I have no complaints. I’m frustrated… I’ve always wanted to defend this belt against Nakajima-san, so please fight me at Korakuen with the belt on the line.”

After the two of them shook hands, Uehara and HIMAWARI also took the microphone.

HIMAWARI: “Suzume-san, Arisu-san… we also want to challenge for the tag belts!”

Uehara: “Facing Daisy Monkey today really strengthened our desire to challenge for those pink belts. I feel that the two of us can do it, having participated in the Next Generation Tournament and made it all the way to the finals!”

HIMAWARI: “We won the match today. So I think that gives us the right to challenge. Please let us challenge!”

Endo: “Thanks for having the willingness to challenge. I really feel that the two of you are getting stronger. But you know what, we’re both getting stronger, too. So of course it’s okay—let’s do it!”

Suzume: “Our very important first title defense; I’m looking forward to it. Let’s do it at Korakuen, too. Make it May 6 at Korakuen, please!”

The four of them shook hands as well, and the trio of champions left.

Shoko’s answer was a bit tricky: “偉い。楽しくなった。まだ道の途中ってことだね。(キャリア)10年もまだ1年ちょっとくらいも一緒ってことですよ.”

Nakajima: (to the other two) “Great. Things got fun. This means I’m still on the road. My 10 year (career) together with your little bit over a year. Challenger, challenger, challenger, let’s do our best. Please give us your support!”

Here are the challengers’ comments:

Nakajima: “I announced a title challenge. What I said in the ring is all that matters. I’m going to beat Miu and wrap the belt around my waist one more time!”

Uehara: “We also announced a title challenge. When this match was set, I had a strong desire to challenge, and I definitely think that the two of us who won the Next Generation Tournament will be able to do it. Seeing Shoko-san challenge made me want to do it even more, so we decided to challenge this time.”

HIMAWARI: “We’re going to do our best, and we’re going to be the first of the Next Generation to win a belt!”

Nakajima: “I’m counting on you.”

This was a bit confusing: “(後輩に挑戦するシチュエーションです)そうですね。特に、いつも通りです.”

(You’re challenging your junior in this situation)

“Yes, that’s right. I feel the same as always.”

(How do you view Miu as the champion?)

“She’s talented, powerful, passionate about training, ambitious, and confident.”

This was really tricky: “やっぱり山下実優に近しいものを感じてた部分も最近はあるので。そうですね…渡辺未詩は渡辺未詩ってかんじです。その言葉全部が渡辺未詩ってかんじだと思ってます.”

“And, well, lately part of me has felt something similar to Miyu Yamashita. Hmm… Miu Watanabe is Miu Watanabe. I think all of those words are the feeling of Miu Watanabe.”

(I don’t get the impression that the two of you team together often?)

Uehara: “It’s true that we haven’t teamed much, but we’ve been competing within our Next Generation class. And we’re the two who advanced to the finals. The final was also a very competitive battle, and we have been helping each other improve. I definitely want us to win the belts here.”

HIMAWARI: “We debuted on the same day, and we both got our first victories over each other. Because of that, I think this is something that we can do together. I’m sure there are a lot of people who think it’s reckless to challenge for a title in your second year, but we don’t think it’s reckless. We’re going to do our best.”

Here are the champions’ comments:

Miu: “For my first match in Japan after winning the belts at Ryogoku, I teamed up with Daisy Monkey as a team of champions, and despite that… I still lost. I feel like it’s really bad for me to lose so soon even though I have the belt, or rather I think it’s not befitting of a champion, and that kind of thinking has me feeling down.”

This was a bit tricky: “でもその分、やっぱりベルトを持つって狙われる立場になるんだなって今この瞬間でより感じたので.”

“But conversely, holding the belt means I’m a target; that’s how it’ll feel from this moment on. I want to work even harder from here, and Nakajima-san challenged me in the midst of it all.”

I had trouble putting this into English: “私はベルトに挑戦する時からどんな風に防衛していきたいかなって思った時に、中島さんが来てくれたら、防衛戦ができたら嬉しいなって一番に思った人だったので.”

“Since challenging for this belt, when I thought about how I wanted to defend it, if Nakajima-came forward, I thought she’d be the person I would be happiest to defend my title against. In any case, I am going to keep working hard until May so that I won’t lose to her, and I’ll be able to defend my title.”

Suzume: “First of all, losing is the most frustrating feeling, but more than that, I’m very happy that they wanted to challenge for our belts. From the time that I joined TJPW up until now when we challenged for the belt… I have been given the courage to step forward time and time again. Since I have the belt, I want to become someone who can give that courage to others.”

This was also a bit tricky: “だから見ているお客さんもそうだけど、まだまだベルトに挑戦したことがない選手たちにも挑戦してきてほしいって思っていて。だから、2人は元々欲しかったものかもしれないけど、私たちが取ったタイミングで踏み出してくれたことがすごく嬉しいし.”

“This goes for the audience watching us, but I also want the wrestlers who have never challenged for a belt to try challenging. So this is something they may have wanted from the start, but I’m really happy that they took that step forward at the time that we won the belts. For this very important first title defense, I want to take them on properly.”

Endo: “I was simply surprised. I was surprised to hear them announce a challenge. It’s certainly true that they had amazing momentum today. I could really feel that, how much they wanted to challenge.”

Suzume: “They were watching us, huh?”

Endo: “I’m happy.”

Arisu lost me a bit right here: “でも私たちは私たちらしく…もうチャンピオンだから.”

“But as is befitting of us… we’re already champions. So we’re absolutely going to defend our belts!”

(Why do you want to fight Nakajima with the belt on the line?)

I could not for the life of me put this into English, haha: “プロレスをこうやって、練習頑張ろうって思えたのって中島さんの存在が一番大きくて.”

Miu: “The thing that motivates me to think ‘I’m going to practice hard and do pro wrestling like this’, Nakajima-san is the biggest influence. She’s always working as hard as she can at the dojo and always growing… It’s so cool that even as a senpai, Nakajima-san continues to grow. Seeing her ahead of me, I’ve always thought that she’s cool, and that I had to follow in her footsteps. So with a senpai like that and then with me in the position of champion contrary to expectations, that’s very meaningful to me.”

After that was Juria’s last match before her graduation/retirement. This one was a singles match against Moka, which is one of those beautiful and bittersweet things that only pro wrestling can do. I both love these matches and hate them. Juria went out on her back, as is proper and traditional for a retirement match.

Here’s the post-match:

After the match, the two of them embrace while crying.

Miyamoto: “…Juria-san, thank you for fighting me today.” (she bows deeply) “Juria-san and I have the same underlying frame, karate. Since her debut match, the two of us have teamed up, and we have had several singles matches at big venues, and have challenged for the tag belts. She was such a big part of my pro wrestling career, so I’m really sad to see her retire and graduate, and I really don’t want her to graduate… I wish Juria-san the best of luck in the future. Thank you so much.”

I wasn’t quite sure about the last chunk of this: “じゅりあさんが東京女子プロレスに入ってくれてホントにホントに嬉しいし、すごい大きなご縁だなと思ったし.”

“I’m really, really happy that Juria-san joined TJPW, and I think we had a truly great connection. Thank you so much for being a part of TJPW.”

At this point, Daisy Monkey present a commemorative album and Aino presents a bouquet on behalf of the wrestlers. Juria receives the items, then, crying, she holds the microphone. After hugging Miyamoto again, she speaks.

Juria: “Thank you all for taking time out of your busy schedules to come here today. I wanted to greet you all with a smile on my face, but I couldn’t reign in my emotions.”

This was tricky: “けっこう…そうですね。SNSの発信とか、けっこうTikTokやるんですけど文字で打つのが苦手だったとか、やっぱりフル参戦できなったっていうのは自分の中で引っ掛かりはあったんですけど.”

“Alright… I’ve been posting a lot on SNS and doing a lot on TikTok, but I’m not very good at writing, or I was uneasy about not being able to participate full time. Even so, everyone gave me a warm welcome and supported me right from the start, and my senpais and even the new juniors talked to me a lot and made sure to invite me. I received a lot of advice, and being able to come to such a wonderful organization… It was only a little over two years, but these two years were very precious for me. …I forgot what I was going to say, but right now, I think you all really love TJPW, and I really love TJPW, too. From here on out, I will be supporting TJPW as a fan. Of course, everyone, please also keep supporting TJPW as much as you can. I’m truly blessed to have been able to come to such a wonderful place. It was only a short time, but thank you! Oss!”

Side note: I got a bit stuck on how to translate “押忍!”, then googled it and found out that “oss” has an English wikipedia page, so I decided screw it, I’m just gonna romanize it. I might keep the “yessir” translation for the Kamiyu instance because I think hers was more sarcastic, whereas Juria’s use is more straightforwardly the karate association (and would maybe be more likely to be understood by English speakers). But I dunno, maybe it would be best to be consistent.

Juria then bowed in all four directions, and the announcer called her name one last time and her entrance music hit. The wrestlers all gathered in the ring for a group photo, then they each hugged her and shook her hand, and at the end Juria remained alone in the ring and gave a seated bow before exiting. Backstage, the wrestlers formed an arch, and Juria made her exit by walking through it.

Juria’s comments:

Juria: “Today I graduated from TJPW.”

I wasn’t quite sure the best way to translate the first part of this: “高木社長からお声がけいただいて…私がプロレスラーになる未来なんて想像してなかったんですけど、素敵な機会をいただいて.”

“President Takagi reached out to me… I never imagined a future where I would become a pro wrestler, but I was given a wonderful opportunity. When I actually experienced it, I became keenly aware of the severity and pain of pro wrestling, but more importantly, pro wrestling was so much fun. The audience was so warm, and my senpais were kind and gave me a lot of advice.”

This was a bit tricky: “後輩とかもすごい和気あいあいとお話することができて、素敵な空間に自分は来れたなって思っています。これは2年ちょっとの間で私の人生の中ですごくプラスになりましたし、今後も絶対死ぬまで活きていくことだと思います.”

“I could talk to my juniors and such in a friendly atmosphere, and feel like I was able to come into a wonderful space. This has been a very positive experience in my life over these past two years or so, and I’m sure it’ll remain in my heart until I die. I’m really grateful to everyone, and to all of the fans who are watching this. Thank you so much. I have become a big fan of TJPW, and I’ll be supporting them very much. Please continue to support TJPW. Thank you very much. Oss!”

(Which match left a lasting impression on you?)

There were a couple things in this I wasn’t 100% sure on: “いっぱいあるんですけど、最後のもかさんとの試合って2人で積み上げてきたものがあるので…2人ともすごい喋る方ではないんですけど、ずっとそばにいてくださって.”

“There were so many, but the last match with Moka-san was something that the two of us had built up together… Neither of us are great talkers, but she was always at my side. Her presence was really reassuring, and I was also chasing after her, so I’m glad that we were able to fight in the end, and it left the biggest impression on me.”

(Do you have any regrets as a pro wrestler?)

I wasn’t totally confident about this: “…(しばし悩み、苦い表情をしてから)やり残したことはありますし、もっともっと勝ちたかったし、悔しい思いもいっぱいしたし。まだやりたいって気持ちもあるけど、でも自分の決めた道だし、ここまでは全力で突っ走ってこれたので…ないです!って言っときます.”

“…” (after a long pause, wearing a bitter expression) “There are things that I’ve left undone, and I wanted to win a lot more, and I have so many regrets. I still feel a desire to do it, but this is the path I’ve decided to take, and I’ve been moving forward toward my goals with all my strength, so… I’m just going to say… No! I don’t.”

(At the end, you did two matches in one day)

This was a bit tricky: “とんでもなくビックリしました、体が。感情もホントに寂しい思いと燃える思いと、いろんな思いがあって.”

“It was a huge surprise for my body. And emotionally, I also felt a lot of sadness and passionate feelings, and I had a lot of thoughts running through my head. My emotions were running high, and I’d never done two matches in one day before. The last match was also a singles match, so it was really… I think my last spark burned out at the end.”

This was a bit tricky to get into English: “だから2試合できて(今まで)あたってなかったユキさん、ぽむさん。あと一緒に組んでたけど闘ってなかった志乃ちゃんと最後闘えて、とてもいい2試合をさせてもらって。このカードを組んでもらって、すごく感謝しています.”

“So I was able to have two matches, having never fought Yuki-san and Pom-san before. And getting to face Shino-chan at the end—we’d teamed up but had never fought before—I got to have two really great matches. I’m really grateful for how the card was put together.”

(What was the atmosphere like at TJPW?)

This was tricky: “ホントにあったかくて、ホントに…人見知りとかで自分からいけなかったりとかもするんですけど、みんな気にかけてくださったり、アドバイスをくれて『もっとこうしたらうまくなるよ』とか言ってくれたりして.”

“It was really warm, really… I’m shy and sometimes can’t do things on my own, but everyone cared about me and gave me advice and said, ‘You’ll get better if you do it like this more.’ I really feel that I was able to wrestle in a good organization. They sent me off with smiling faces at the end, and I’m so grateful to them.”

Moka’s comments:

Miyamoto: “I’m really glad I got to have a singles match with Juria-san at the end of her graduation show… I have been watching from her side since her debut. She was a huge part of my wrestling career, and we had a lot of singles matches together, and we also challenged for the tag belts… She was a huge presence in my life, so I’m really sad to see her graduate.”

This was a bit やばい for me as the translator: “最後に闘えて、やばい。言葉がまとまらない(笑)。まとまらないんですけど、最後に闘えてホントに良かったなって思ってます.”

“Getting to face her at the end, it’s a lot. I can’t put it into words.” (laughs) “I can’t put it into words, but I’m really glad that we were able to fight here at the end. But Juria-san said she’ll be coming to see TJPW, so maybe I won’t miss her too much. I’ll be able to see her. But I will miss not being able to have another match with her. Today we were able to fight each other with emotion, so I’m very glad that we were able to put everything we have into that fight.”

This question was tough to put into English, and some other parts were also a bit hard to translate… “(あらためて宮本にとってじゅりあの存在は?)大きかったですね。多分じゅりあさんが一番たくさんタッグ組んでるし、真拳空勝として名前のついたタッグも初めてだったので。2人でタッグベルトに挑戦したり、試行錯誤を一番した選手だなと思っているので。すごい大きな存在でした.”

(Once again, can you describe how she was a part of your life?)

“She was a big part of it. Juria-san might be the person I’ve tagged with the most, and Shinken Kusho was my first time being part of a named tag team. We challenged for the tag belts together, and she’s the wrestler who learned the most through trial and error. She was a big part of my life.”

And that’s it for that one! Goodbye, Juria. I’m glad I got to translate your little over 2 years of a career :smiling_face_with_tear:. I hope her other careers work out for her.

I was going to attempt to translate the post-match for the April 14 show in Nodoka’s village, but neither shupro nor the official DDT site have a full transcript of what was said at the end (and there are no post-match comments), so I think I’m not going to bother.

And after that was Hype 2! Which has a decently long section in the ring at the end (without post-match comments) wherein the wrestlers talk a bit more about how the show came together, and I actually do have a transcript for that, so I think I’m going to aim to translate that next. People might find the blog post a bit of a letdown, though, because it doesn’t really touch on the actual content of the show, which is probably where most of the interest is.

This is pointlessly very nitpicky, but I think “You won’t object, right?” “I don’t object.” would sound slightly more natural here.

I think for the まだ道の途中ってことだね, “we” would be better than “I” – that part’s preceded in the video by I think something like 偉そうに言えないけどね and I would say that she’s saying like - they’re all together in the same way - in the middle of their journey and now a challenger.
Like that part was her softening the “ah nicely done, youngsters” 偉そう tone of her 偉い to start off.

Speaking of which, for that 偉い, I wonder if maybe a more clearly complimentary to them phrase could be found? Like, “great” alone could be showing general approval of the situation, but the tone of 偉い here is specifically approval of their making the challenge, from the perspective of their senior. Maybe “Great job!” or “Very well done!” or “bravo!” or something…

For “things got fun” I would also probably be tempted to stray a little farther from the exact meaning into something that sounds better in English like maybe “it got interesting at the end there” or “that turned out fun!” or something.

Not an especially important quibble, but I think the sense I personally get from what she says in the video is more like “What I said in the ring is all I have to say”/“I have nothing to add to what I said in the ring.”
To check that impression I did a little searching, and I did find a usage that I think supports it, where the phrase is used by someone denying a request for additional comment:

本誌・週刊ポストが改めて取材を申し込むと、「新聞で言ったことがすべてです」と回答した。

(Apparently I’m in the mood for small quibbles today, sorry about that…)
For this one, I think 頼もしい would technically be closer to like “I can count on you.” Like the English here sounds like she’s actively putting her trust in them, but I would say it’s closer to like with that 偉い earlier, like a senior to junior type of detached positive comment. “How trustworthy/reliable/promising!” that kind of thing - she’s slipping in some praise for their determined promo after it.
Not sure what a good better alternative would be though, maybe “They can back it up!” or “Very promising!” or something.

Yeah this seems right to me. I would say the 特に is one of those cases like with 別に where like, on its own it signals that a negative sentence is coming after it so strongly, that it might work as a negative on its own, or like in a case like this where the sentence that follows ends up not actually being a negative even though it feels like a negative.
The implied question and implied answer is “do you feel any special kind of way about that?” “Not particularly, no.” So I think in a weird way the 特に is sort of slipping in from that implied q/a.

I think it’s a part of Miu that has been lately feeling close to Miyu’s wavelength. I think the reason that train of thought doesn’t connect up with the later part is just that she thinks further and discards it with a まあ and summarizes with the conclusion.

I’m pretty sure with the 今この瞬間でより感じた part she’s meaning to say “I felt that in this moment” or “I felt that more in this moment (than previously).”
After looking around for uses of より particularly with で like this, I’m pretty sure the より will always point forward in that case, rather than earlier to the 瞬間.
And it seems like then if the より is followed by an adjective it would be in the “more X” sense.
And so sort of similar to the 特に case before, I think that it’s a case where in speech the grammar didn’t quite line up exactly but the feeling matches anyway. I think maybe she was lining up the より to strengthen the adjective that ended up being phrased as a verb in 感じた. Or the で slipped in after 瞬間

I think I would tweak this slightly for smoothness by moving the “if Nakajima-came forward” part to the end:
“Since challenging for this belt, when I thought about how I wanted to defend it, I thought Nakajima-san would be the person I would be happiest to defend my title against if she came for it.” maybe.
(though it is still tricky to word exactly right)

Here I would say with 「まずは、負けて悔しいっていう気持ちは一番だけど」
She’s saying like, first off, her #1 feeling is (over-literally) “I lost and I’m frustrated about it”

Like, not “losing is the most frustrating feeling” - rather “the frustrating feeling of losing is what I’m feeling first and foremost”

perfect!

I would say here rather it’s more like the もうチャンピオンだから is interjecting into and interrupting the でも私たちは私たちらしく
like it would be でも私たちは私たちらしく絶対に防衛します.
But with the interjection it’s that but also もうチャンピオンだから絶対に防衛します
I would also say that the もう is probably more of the like, emotive もう?
I would say with that interjection she’s bucking up their confidence, like - “I mean, we’re champions!”
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She was going to say “We’ll defend the belts in our own way” but midway through she decided to grap Suzume’s hand and add a level of confidence to make it like, “But in our own way we’ll… because we’re champions! … we’ll defend the belts.”
It’s sweet that their hand remain clasped for the rest of the interview.

(this is just a swing at trying to get it into fully smooth English but) maybe “When I think of the influences who have motivated me to follow their example in pro wrestling and work hard in training, Nakajima-san looms the largest.”

So, here her thoughts are understandably a bit jumbled, so it’s with good reason, but I think the pieces haven’t ended up assembled quite right here.

I’ll break it down:
けっこう ← beginning to start a train of thought
…そうですね。← trailing off and taking more time to think about what to say
SNSの発信とか、けっこう ← starting up the same train of thought again
TikTokやるんですけど ← interrupting the train of thought to acknowledge a caveat
文字で打つのが苦手だったとか ← finishing one example of the train of thought
やっぱりフル参戦できなったっていうのは ← the other example in the train of thought
自分の中で引っ掛かりはあったんですけど. ← the concluding point.

Which is to say that if one were to assemble the pieces into the train of thought, it would be that
this:
SNSの発信とか、けっこう文字で打つのが苦手だったとか
and this:
やっぱりフル参戦できなったっていうの
were this:
自分の中で引っ掛かりはあったんですけど

So to sum up what she’s saying, I would say it’s that internally she was uneasy (going into pro wrestling) because
a) she’s not good at writing on social media (although she does a lot of TikTok)
and
b) as expected she couldn’t wrestle full time.
So she was worried she wouldn’t be accepted (by the fans, wrestlers etc.) since it might be hard to connect on social media and hard to connect in matches because of those factors.
(but everyone did accept her).

I don’t have a comment actually about this and I haven’t mentioned it before since both cases definitely seem like the training kind of 押忍 rather than the greeting kind of 押忍 but I wanted to mention on the subject that probably the #1 place native English speakers might encounter 押忍 is at the end of Dragon Ball episodes, because when Goku narrates the preview for the next episode he always starts with “押忍! オラ悟空!” (“Hi, I’m Goku!” but in a memorable Goku-ish way) :sweat_smile:

I think there were things in the last match that the two of them had built up together. I don’t think the もの is the match itself, since it’s がある.

I think maybe “pained” would be slightly better than “bitter” here.
Even with the description, I was unprepared for how long the pause would be and how many emotions it would involve! :sweat_smile:
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A couple tweaks:
まだやりたいって気持ちもあるけど is talking about pro wrestling still. But in the translation it sounds like she’s talking about the path. I would translate as “A part of me still wants to keep at it, but”
And I personally would tweak “I’ve been moving forward toward my goals with all my strength” to “to get where I am today I’ve kept running forward full-force” just since it sounds stronger.

I also wonder if maybe:
“so… No! I don’t! … I’ll leave it at that.”
might read slightly better rhythmically. (though maybe less clear meaning-wise?)

(Honestly, dang, I’d put that question and answer in the TJPW backstage promo hall of fame, with that one with Saki Akai and the kids, the cream puff stuff, ‘businesslike’, etc.)

This should be processed more in the English - it’s an example of the kind of advice she was given, so at least there should be a ‘for example’ thrown in, but you might be able to get the quotes out entirely.
A quick attempt:
“and gave me advice like, ‘try it a little more like this’ and so on.”
The image it calls to my mind is in training the other wrestler demonstrating how to correctly do a particular move.

Since I don’t hear a differing modifier for 大きな存在 in the second one of these, I would try to keep them phrased or at least meaning the same.
Maybe:
“She was a huge presence in my wrestling career… Since she was such a huge presence, I…”

In another case of the transcription punctuation not being the most trustworthy/directly mapping to English in the world, in the video this comes across as an interjection:
やばい、言葉がまとまらない

It definitely isn’t the case that the やばい is finishing the sentence, rather it’s leading into her exclamation about not being able to finish the sentence.
“Getting to face her at the end… wow, I can’t put it into words!” or “oh my god, I can’t put it into words!” or something would be closer I’d say.

I’d probably quibble again that it seems like she’s still talking about presence in her career - the “life” part hear feels like maybe too broad a reach.

And I would probably assume there’s an implied togetherness with the 試行錯誤 stuff so maybe “she’s the wrestler who I learned the most with through trial and error”.

I just wanted to say that you don’t have to worry about this! The quibbles are actually really helpful because they improve the translation quality a whole lot and also help break down what’s precisely happening with the grammar/vocab and what tone it gives.

I think I implement like 99% of your suggestions in the final drafts. It’s really the thing that takes the translations from good to great, I think.

Yeah, honestly! There’s truly so much emotion packed into that one answer…

週刊プロレス No.2260 (from August 2023)

Not a translation post this time! My draft for the next one is almost done, but naturally instead of working on my other projects that I literally just made goals to work on in my study log, I spent the past couple days putting together something else entirely :sweat_smile:…

Which is… a guide to following TJPW!

I had been wanting to write this for a long time, but never had the time to sink into it, so it just didn’t happen. There are other guides out there that other people have written, but I don’t really like anyone else’s, haha. They’re not helpful for me personally, at least.

If anyone has any thoughts or feedback or corrections or anything, I’d love to hear them! The guide is live on the blog but isn’t currently linked anywhere on the site.

I think it’s well done, and would share it!

I came to TJPW in a different way and haven’t had much success roping people into promotions with primers :sweat_smile: so I don’t have particular standing to critique. I bet with your blog’s reach you may get at least some success in that area so I’ll be curious to see!

Thinking in retrospect on how I ended up getting into TJPW (and I would say currently it’s my #1 promotion), from the maybe more common trajectory of WWE/NXT->NJPW->Stardom->TJPW, I think at first the main appeal was the main events - a Yuka Sakazaki or a Magical Sugar Rabbits title match was reliably going to be really good. And I remember being a bit off put by all the “Princess” branding and the Up Up Girls (Pro Wrestling) performance at the start of each show.
I think the way the relationship dynamics and character-based running gags and stories bleed in slowly over time until the whole thing is endearing is a really interesting aspect of TJPW that takes a lot of time (and for me, helping with your translations definitely helped a lot with accelerating that since I wouldn’t have looked at nearly so many promos without that).

If looking for things to suggest, I wonder if maybe that a reassurance around that could be made clearer? Like - something like ‘don’t worry about trying to follow all of it at once, you’ll get to know the roster better over time if you keep watching’ or something. It might be a little intimidating currently (since your watching all of the shows and experiencing all of the promos is a little intimidating even to me who probably knows nearly as much about the promotion at this point :sweat_smile:).
Ultimately I think the characters and stories aren’t that complicated - maybe 1 core concept with 1-3 running gags and 1-3 key relationships. It’s just everyone on the roster has a completely unique set of those traits and you aren’t going to start out knowing them and it’ll be hard to pick them up without knowing Japanese. So I wonder if for a primer like this it might be best to try to emphasize more up front the ‘there’s something for everyone’ aspect rather than the depth aspect - like there’s definitely enough good wrestler or obviously language barrier-transcending ridiculousness to suck someone in and then to slowly learn more about the characters. But that may also be contrary to your own experience getting into it since you get drawn in by specific stories first and foremost, so feel free to ignore!

My only other suggestion is I would maybe move the anatomy of a show portion lower, or maybe even break it out into its own post? It’s a very specific breakdown compared to the more general info in the rest of the post. Selling 'em on the general vibe and appeal first before breaking down what specifically to expect might be best.

More specifics about the current state of the promotion and who’s important might be the next info prospective fans could use - but that would go out of date quickly so I think it’s good it’s not here.
Occasionally I’ve thought of trying to make a full list of TJPW running gags :sweat_smile:… I guess those things might be things to consider if it ever down the line becomes a set of TJPW intro posts rather than one.

Anyway, again, I think it’s good and thanks for sharing!

This is great, and I’ve already shared it with my friends. My feedback would be to ask for a little more information around the fan culture. I know when I first started watching, I had a lot of questions like, “what’s up with those towels?” and “what are those light sticks?” and “why are people randomly shouting names?” For me, the detail that really unlocked a much better understanding of TJPW was finding out that the banners hung at Korakuen are made by fans, and because there’s a limited amount of space to hang them, there’s a lottery before Korakuen shows to determine which fans’ banners are displayed.

Thanks for the Japanese wrestling vocabulary! Those are the next words I’ll be learning!

Thank you everyone for the feedback! Got a lot of very different feedback from different people from here and from elsewhere (I think every single person who read it said something different, haha).

Ha, yeah, I guess my guide’s dark secret is that my target audience for it isn’t people I’m trying to convince to watch TJPW, but rather people who might’ve seen a show or two, or who have been watching for a while on an extremely casual basis. So the goal isn’t to create TJPW superfans out of nothing but rather to give new or existing fans the tools to watch with a little more awareness of what’s going on.

I honestly think that primers almost never work for bringing people in. Or at least, I can’t think of a single one that has worked on me, haha.

Yeah, I was also put off by that at first! Same with Stardom; back when I was still watching that, when I got started, I remember feeling very disappointed that both TJPW and Stardom had such a cutesy tone in comparison to like NJPW (even just looking at the belts, TJPW and Stardom belts look way less like serious wrestling belts than, say, NJPW’s or AEW’s), with lots of princess-themed stuff (Stardom’s Cinderella Tournament, too…) and pink and purple.

I don’t think I’ll ever be an idol fan (for many reasons), so I only came around to that part of TJPW after getting invested in the wrestling part, and even then the idol stuff is something I really only appreciate through what it means for the characters.

Though now I’ve sort of gone the other direction and often find myself wishing that men’s wrestling would borrow more from TJPW than the other way around :joy_cat:.

That was one of the main points I tried to make, but I’ll see if I can make it clearer! I suppose the main takeaway I was hoping people to come away with is that they gotta read the translations even if they don’t watch all the shows, because the promos do a lot of important character building work, and simply reading them over time will go a long way to educate you on what’s going on.

Yeah, sadly my way of getting into it literally isn’t possible anymore, since what happened for me was starting off watching shows along with more knowledgeable friends while armed with Mr. Haku’s translations. So my friends told me about like the Mizuki and Itoh relationship and stuff that had happened before my time, and Mr. Haku’s translations kept us feeling pretty informed about overall what was happening in the shows.

I can’t help strangers with the knowledgeable friends part, and I can only partially help fulfill the role that once Mr. Haku did :smiling_face_with_tear:.

I guess the reason why I emphasize the depth is to specifically counter the argument I see online that Japanese wrestling has no storylines, as well as the people who watch TJPW purely from like a smarky booking analysis perspective, viewing all the match-ups and title reigns only in terms of drawing power and match quality and like focusing on the creation of stars. People will do that with American wrestling, too, but it’s extremely common with western fans of Japanese wrestling (I think partially because of the language barrier).

It bothers me when western joshi fans ignore or erase the deliberate storytelling that the wrestlers are doing. People can view wrestling stories however they like, and obviously different things will connect to different people, but I get really annoyed when a whole bunch of people who don’t speak the language basically invent their own version of what’s going on and then get mad when the booking goes in a totally different direction.

I thought about moving it elsewhere, but I think that’s the part that offers something that I don’t see any other guides offering, and I had multiple people specifically thank me for that breakdown, haha. I had part of the information in there explained to me when I started watching (mainly through Mr. Haku’s old translation threads), but a lot of it I had to basically figure out on my own, and wished I’d had explained to me much earlier. Like even simple stuff like what 一本勝負 means, you need a surprising level of Japanese familiarity to start to figure that out.

I was thinking about a couple new fans who were posting in the Wrestle Universe chat “this is my first TJPW show!” during Hype, of all shows (what an entry point… :sweat_smile:). I think jumping into a TJPW show is a lot more intimidating now than it used to be back when you could open up a show and open up Mr. Haku’s thread for it and feel confident that you were going to be able to understand everything important that happens.

So I guess I feel like it’s sort of hard to talk about the bigger structure of the company without walking a viewer through how the actual shows go, first. It makes the “all-Japanese media” part of it seem less scary, and makes the shows feel more accessible. At least, that’s the goal.

But I dunno, maybe I’m trying to make this one guide do too many different things and serve too many audiences at once :sweat_smile:.

Yeah, I ended up deciding not to write more specifics about the current state of the promotion because I feel like other guides do that part fine anyway, and I frankly do not want to have to worry about the upkeep for a guide like that, haha. I’d rather give people the tools to watch and follow the company themselves. I suppose this is why I prefer essays about specific stories rather than ever-shifting primers, because essays zero in on moments that are sort of fossilized in time so they remain useful even after the time in question has passed.

Omg a list of TJPW running gags would be fun, though, haha. If you ever do write that, I’d love to host it on the blog, even if it’s just a one-off article and not one that’s constantly updated.

I’ve toyed with writing like a guide to some of the basic pro wrestling Japanese that is helpful to know. A few of my friends have also talked about wanting to do this, but none of us have had the time/energy to make that happen, so it hasn’t materialized yet… If I do write that, I’d probably move some of the info in this one to that.

Sadly I don’t think I’m the best person to give this sort of info, because I’ve never been to a TJPW show (or any wrestling show, actually), have never been to Japan, don’t keep up with the idol side of things at all, and am only tangentially aware of Japanese fan culture stuff. The parts of the fan culture that I personally engage with are pretty strictly digital.

I don’t even keep up with like TJPW ticket sale numbers or anything like that haha so I’m really totally out of the loop with regards to, like, the material reality of putting on the shows and attending them as a fan. I didn’t even know that about the lottery for the banners because I don’t really pay attention to those announcements :sweat_smile:.

It is very cool, though! I’d love to hear more about that myself. Maybe a fan who actually lives in Japan could write about their experiences.

Glad it was useful!

My focus has been super dicey lately, but I finished translating the in-ring stuff at the very end of Hype 2 on April 19 (no real recap in this one, but I’ll link it just because)! Here’s the Dramatic DDT eng recap (sourced from shupro, I believe) for good measure.

No comments for this one, so just the in-ring:

Aja: “Raku-chan… I’m sorry! I’m sorry. I’m so, so, sorry! But I’ve been watching all of the events of today from backstage, and you were so cool.”

This was tricky: “最後の最後にこんな変なおまけが飛び出てくるとも知らずに、ね。その前のソロ曲歌って終わりだと思ったよな。みんなもそう思ってるよ.”

“Even without knowing that such a strange bonus chapter would pop up at the end. I thought it was over after the solo song right before that. Everyone else thought so, too. You all thought that was the grand finale, huh? But I’m really happy I got to face Raku-chan for the first time in a scene like this. Thank you. But I think it’s better to team up with Raku-chan, so let’s see if the producer who made us undergo such an experience is here, and let’s crush her together.”

I thought it was sort of interesting how shupro described this, though it was a bit weird to translate, haha.

アジャは先に退場。入れ替わるように他の面々がリングに上がり、らくの周りを囲む。

Aja exits. As if they’re changing shifts with her, the other wrestlers enter the ring and surround Raku.

Tatsumi: “Raku, you did amazing.” (cries) “You did such a good job. It was a long, long dream.”

This was a bit tricky: “でも現実でこうやってらくの歌と、らくのアジャ様との試合を見て、私はめちゃくちゃ心臓をギューッとつかまれました.”

“But seeing Raku sing like this in the real world, and seeing her match with Aja-sama, it really grabbed me by the heart. It was amazing! You did so well! It was really, really good. Shokopple…?”

This was also tricky: “HYPEが決まったのはちょっと前だけど、台本を書き終わるか終わらないくらいでハイパーミサヲがアメリカで骨折したんです.”

Nakajima: “HYPE was scheduled a while ago, but as far as whether we had a finished script or not, Hyper Misao fractured a bone when she was in the U.S. So we were rushing to get it all together, and we didn’t have much time. For this show, I mean. But, y’know, Raku was the first person out of everyone to memorize all of her lines, and ever since Misao told her she’d be playing the lead role, I think without a doubt that she’s the one who’s been working the hardest. Seeing her match with Aja-sama, I almost cried. She’s grown so much. It’s amazing! I know you’ve taken a lot of damage, but can you say a few words, Raku?”

Raku: “Misao-san told me before I got on the plane that I was going to be the main character. And at first I thought I was going to refuse…”

This was tricky: “で最後、誰かと試合するんだけどって言われて誰だと思う?っていうのをトイレで言われて。でも私がすぐ思いついたのはアジャさんで、ホントにまた断ろうと思って…。ユキさんに断り方ってどうやったらいいですか?って。ミサヲさんもギリギリで大変だけど、アジャさんとのシングルはホントに引退試合だとしてもやりたくないって思って相談したら、このきっかけがらくの何かいいきっかけになるから、ミサヲさんがこの話を与えてくれたんだよって言ってくれて、それでやろうと思って決めました.”

“In the bathroom, she told me I was going to have a match with someone at the end, and was like, ‘who do you think it is?’ I immediately thought of Aja-san, and I really wanted to say no again… I asked Yuki-san, ‘how do I tell her no?’ Misao-san was also having a hard time with how last-minute everything was, but I really didn’t want to have a singles match with Aja-san even if it were a retirement match, and when we talked about it, Misao-san said that she gave me this story because it would be a good opportunity for me to do something, and so I decided to do it. We had no time, so we all stayed up really late…” (Tatsumi shouts “Really!”)

This was hard to translate (my old enemy…): “リカさんが余裕ないの初めて見ましたよ.”

“It was my first time seeing Rika-san lose her calm. So it was really tough, but so many people came, and you smiled and laughed. I think we’re all glad that we worked so hard today.”

Nakajima: “Shall we invite her up then? Mi-sa-o! Mi-sa-o!”

Misao appears on crutches.

Misao: (crying) “You were all amazing! Truly amazing. What should I do? I have so many feelings, but Raku-chan is so cool! Wasn’t she super cool? Like everyone said earlier, I fractured a bone before the script was finished. When that happened, I was at a point where I wasn’t sure we were going to do it or not, and there was no script.”

Bits of this were a bit tricky: “そのタイミングで、やるかどうかも迷うレベルだったんですけど、台本ないし。でもらくちゃん…断りそうになったけど、最終的にはこうやって最後までやってくれて、めっちゃいい試合だったし.”

“But Raku-chan… she almost turned me down, but at the last minute she did it, and she did it all the way to the end, and it was a really good match. Rika-san and Nakajima-san, I’m sorry…” (cries) “Truthfully, the script was only finished this week—Sunday, I mean. Everyone was reading it in Okayama. In the midst of all of that, Rika-san took the lead and did it for me.”

This was really confusing at first, but I think she’s talking about Shoko portraying the character in both rabbit form and in human form? “中島さんもショコップルになったり中島さんになったり、マジで大変で.”

“Nakajima-san going from being Shokopple and being Nakajima-san, that’s seriously tough. So everyone… how do I do it? Truly, thank you so much. And yes, the stage assistant. The stage assistant was HIMAWARI. She seriously agreed to do it only yesterday. Thank you. How was it?”

HIMAWARI: “It was my first time, so it was a lot of fun being the stage assistant!”

Misao: “I wonder if I can close the show in this state…”

Tatsumi: “Pami worked hard, too! I’m glad we were able to do it. Even though it was tough, performing was really fun, wasn’t it, everyone? Rock ‘n’ roll! Good luck with the surgery.”

Misao: (after the audience chants ‘Misao!’) “Thank you! I’m going to have to get surgery, but I’ll definitely be back. They said it’ll take longer than expected, but I’ll definitely come back.”

Chunks of this were difficult: “今日HYPE2やって、あらためて私が伝えたかったことは、プロレスってエンタメの中ですごいすごい力を持ってるってことと。プロレスラーはこんなひどい私のスケジュール管理の中でも、無茶ぶりにも絶対できないって誰も言わなかった。無理だよとは言ったけど(笑)。こうやってやりきったから、プロレスラーっていうのはホントに何でもできる、エンタメのエネルギーめちゃめちゃ持ってるので。東京女子プロレスのプロレスラーみんなが才能を持ってるってことをあらためてみんなにまざまざと見せつけられる場として、HYPEはこれからもみんなに恐れられながら続けたいと思っていますので.”

“With today’s HYPE 2, what I really wanted to convey is that in the world of entertainment, pro wrestling has incredible, incredible power. Even with my terrible schedule management, no one said that it was an unreasonable request or that a pro wrestler couldn’t possibly do it. Though I said it was impossible.” (laughs) “Because I was able to do it, that means that pro wrestlers really can do anything, and they have lots and lots of Entertainment Energy. I would like to keep doing HYPE as a place where we can clearly demonstrate yet again that all of the wrestlers at TJPW have talent, and I want everyone to keep fearing HYPE. Thank you all for your continued support! And finally, let’s bring us back to reality." (after announcing merchandise information) “So with that, how about we close the show?”

They closed this show the same as the last one: “I get Hype! We get Hype!!”

And that’s it for that! I’m gonna try really hard to finish the last show translation and also the new presser that just dropped.

Still haven’t put the guide up actually on the site because I can’t figure out what changes to make :weary:. I picked a terrible time to write it…

Really minor quibble here I think – I would say that Aja’s ごめんs here increase in insistence but not in intensity - like I get the feeling of like, the kind of string of apologies you might say to your cat to make it clear you didn’t mean to accidentally step on their tail a little, where you want to make sure there’s no hard feelings but aren’t beating yourself up too much about it. Whereas the 'so’s here feel like they might be increasing the intensity, like making it sound like more of a major thing to apologize for.
And so instead of the “I’m so, so sorry!” I would maybe tweak it to “Forgive me!” since that feels I think more like the kind of thing someone would say in a situation like that cat example.

I would interpret this as simply switching places / replacing somebody. I think the ‘change shifts’ meaning is just a specific use case derived from the literal meaning. It also seems like the ように is just a neutral way of saying that doesn’t quite map so directly to a simile in English. I would put it as "Replacing her in the ring, " or somesuch like that.

I think the 終わるか終わらない part is probably a shortened version of ~か~ないかのうちに meaning like “just as soon as it finished”

Here’s a cute example I found with Shoko’s phrasing that I believe supports that interpretation:

私の彼女はいつも
ご飯終わるか終わらないかくらいで
メニュー見ながら「デザート食べる?:pleading_face::sparkles:」って食い気味できいてくるのだけど

In the tweet I believe she’s saying that her girlfriend always shows interest in dessert right as soon as they’re done eating, (but this time she suggested dessert and her girlfriend seemed oddly nervous about it and seemed nervous, because as it turned out her girlfriend had already arranged a special anniversary dessert for her).

So Shoko’s emphasizing that as soon as they finished the script, Misao immediately broke her ankle.

AMMENDMENT: later on since Misao talks about the script not being done I was confused based on all this stuff I just said that seemed pretty solid, but I found a different grammar source that leaves the case more open to the phrase describing as well the short period of time before the thing happens. Which given all the additional context later on is clearly what’s happening here (and I mean, it does make sense from the literal meaning of the grammar that that would be a possible meaning). So “just as the script was about to be finished, Misao broke her ankle” would be closer to Shoko’s point.

The other thing I think I might quibble over is that I think ちょっと前 would be more like “a little while” ago vs. just a while (though it’s a little hard to say on this timescale of weeks/months).

For the delayed 今回の興行, I would interpret it as that delayed topic after the pause that doesn’t directly work so well in English. And I would probably say that I think the 今回 is in contrast to 前回, i.e. Hype 1.
So I think I would tweak it to maybe something like “we didn’t have much time, this time around.”

Quibble, but I think I would probably prefer “I was going to have the lead role” here.

It’s easy to lose track of it focusing on each piece while working on the translation, but I think she’s still talking to Yuki for this whole part here, because of this part:
ミサヲさんがこの話を与えてくれたんだよって言ってくれて
(gloss of this part in isolation)“She told me, ‘Misao-san gave this story to you’”
It’s sort of a hard mode くれる challenge!
It can’t be Misao saying この話を与えてくれたんだよ because it would definitely be Misao doing the 与える’ing and so she would be talking about something she did and so the くれる would be wrong. And it can’t be Raku saying it either because of the 言ってくれて for the same reason. And it also can’t be Raku or someone else describing something Misao said, because that’s not how って works, the stuff quoted is kept generally exact.
And so we’re still in dialogue with Yuki. She’s the only one who could have said it.
Raku said “hey how do I turn down Hyper Misao, I don’t think I want to have a singles match against Aja even for a retirement match, what do I do?” and Yuki said “このきっかけがらくの何かいいきっかけになるから、ミサヲさんがこの話を与えてくれたんだよ” as in “Hyper Misao gave you this story for a reason” and Raku took that to heart and was convinced.
I feel pretty smug about sensing something was off and working this one out!
Oh hey, and that’s why there’s this emotional shot of Yuki while everyone claps after Raku says she decided to do it:

Another thing I would probably tweak that’s a little harder to pin down exactly into words, but I think
about this part:

ミサヲさんもギリギリで大変だけど、アジャさんとのシングルはホントに引退試合だとしてもやりたくないって思って相談したら
Misao-san was also having a hard time with how last-minute everything was, but I really didn’t want to have a singles match with Aja-san even if it were a retirement match, and when we talked about it,

Here in the Japanese she’s describing her mindset going into the conversation (with Yuki) which convinced her to then do the show. And I feel like with that context, and her tone (with the audience laughing at all the mentions of not wanting to wrestle Aja), it’s not something she felt with conviction - she’s describing being conflicted about it.
And so I think the English here in contrast loses that a touch too much. I think it’s one case where the 思って should probably be preserved, and maybe even some word order.
My attempt:

I felt that although it would be hard on Misao with how down to the wire everything was, a singles match with Aja-san was really something I didn’t want to do even for a retirement match! We talked about it, and Yuki told me…

Comparing the two translations, it’s subtle but I think there’s a difference? :thinking:
You know, maybe the only main thing it is is whether this clause:
ミサヲさんもギリギリで大変だけど、
is considered within the eventual 思って or not.
I think from the tense and how she says it that I would say that yes it is, and that ends up a (somewhat) important difference in the tone, since it ends up the difference between like,
“Misao was in a bind and wanted me to do this, but I didn’t want to do it” which sounds like it’s emphasizing that she didn’t want to do it in spite of the first clause,
and
“I thought ‘Misao is in a bind and wants me to do this, but I don’t want to do this’” which sounds like it’s emphasizing that she was conflicted.
Another interesting one! What a fun section!

A couple more small things in this section:

このきっかけがらくの何かいいきっかけになる
it would be a good opportunity for me to do something

Not really a problem with meaning, I think the English just sounds a bit odd (which is fair… that’s a hard one to wrangle).
Maybe… “Misao-san gave this story to you because the opportunity will be a good one for you”
or I guess just “will be a good opportunity.” I think probably the “to do something” is unnecessary, I guess is all I’m saying. :sweat_smile:

Last comment about this section is tiny and optional - pretty sure for the second Aja-san in the transcript:
アジャさんとのシングルは
she says in the video アジャ様 - but she does say Aja-san for the one earlier so up to you whether to leave it consistent or not. It maybe contributes slightly to the weight and importance she’s putting on Aja and the prospect of a singles match with her in that phrase.

I think this is good! Although - I became less sure about that when I remembered that Rika-san strangles people a whole lot for someone so calm :sweat_smile:. Maybe “so stressed about something”?

Also – it’s a pity that the Shupro transcript leaves out Rika exclaiming about only having 3 or 4 days (to learn all those lines). It really puts it in perspective how impressive it all was! (although I guess it’s covered later by Misao)

This is an unimportant quibble not even with you but with Shupro’s transcript (which hey, I can read now! Thanks!). Technically in the video she says she “hadn’t given everyone a script.” I would imagine there was a draft in some state between rough and finished, but it hadn’t been completed and given to everyone (which one could argue is the same as having no script but hey I wanna be charitable to the great producer!).

I would tweak this to “she saw it through” just for English phrasing smoothness.

Yeah, I think so. She has a couple more たりs after those two that I don’t quite catch and I guess the transcriber didn’t either, but I think she’s saying like – going back and forth from the ring and wherever it was that she was doing the voiceover from, was what was taxing.

(I did some consulting and some pondering after my initial feeling and)
I would say that the small improvement that could be made here is that I think エンタメの中で in this case would be more like - among the different genres/formats of entertainment, based on examples like:

マンガが他のエンタメの中で、

アイドルとプロレスってエンタメの中でいうと

I would maybe tweak it to:
“Pro wrestling, as one form of entertainment, has incredible incredible power.”

Although hmmm looking back over it maybe in the end I didn’t up quibbling over anything meaningful and the original is better. Maybe I was just thrown off by “the world of entertainment” sounding like “the entertainment world” when I guess it does kinda mean something different, oddly (and by my initial impression being far off the mark).

The 無理だよ is still the other wrestlers. It’s a joke about how although they didn’t decline saying it was impossible, they did complain (particularly Rika even called it 無理 earlier in this post-match promo - in the line I mentioned was dropped about how 3-4 days was 無理 for her with such a large role).

I’ve put off thinking about if there’s an elegant way to perfectly translate it, since it does seem like it requires some finesse, since it’s essentially “No one said it was impossible (as a way of refusing), though they did say it was impossible (as a way of complaining).”

I also see one other problem by the way:
無茶ぶりにも is one where I would say it isn’t inside the って later.

My swing at:
プロレスラーはこんなひどい私のスケジュール管理の中でも、無茶ぶりにも絶対できないって誰も言わなかった。無理だよとは言ったけど(笑)。
“All the pro wrestlers, even with my terrible schedule management, even though it was an unreasonable request, none of them told me it was absolutely out of the question. Though they did say it would be impossible!” (laughs)

Oh pardon the unusual level of insistence, but 1000% she’s saying “Because they were able to do it” here. :sweat_smile: I would maybe accept “we”. But in the last sentence she was talking about all the pro wrestlers who were helping her despite her failings and complying with her request. She’s crying and being extremely humble and she’s talking about how the roster touched her by being able to pull it off. So I would definitely go with “they” here.
(ah, probably the topic continuation getting missed through the 無理 clause caused this one too)

I think this is a nice attempted maneuver to get the 恐れられながら in there… but alas I think it does end up not quite capturing it.
With that 恐れられながら, she’s gesturing around to and acknowledging the other wrestlers:


And I would say that she’s saying not that she wants it to be feared, but more like she’s acknowledging that (because of the extremely stressful production of this one) it would be feared (by the wrestlers).

Maybe something like:

I would like, as frightening a prospect as it might be, to keep doing HYPE, as a place where we can clearly demonstrate yet again that all of the wrestlers at TJPW have talent.


Thanks for doing these ones and asking the questions, as a reason to relive this post match promo! I’m still really moved by this one. :sob:

こうやってやりきったから、プロレスを英訳する人っていうのはホントに何でもできる
よね

Finished translating the last show! This was from April 27.

The two main things going on in this one were the preview matches for the two title matches. First up was Himawari/Wakana with Runa vs Daisy Monkey with Haru. Nice solid win for the all-rookie team here! I enjoyed seeing their tag move at the end!

Himawari/Wakana and Runa’s comments:

HIMAWARI: “We won the preview match!”

This sentence was a bit tricky: “でもね、きょうは勝ったんですけどギリギリの闘いでもあったので、でじもんさんはチームワークがすごくよくて、私たちはまだ即席のタッグっていうこともあるのでこれからまたさらにね.”

Uehara: “We won today, but it also came down to the wire. Daisy Monkey has great teamwork, and we’re still a thrown-together team, so we’re going to have to do even better from here.”

HIMAWARI: “As we look toward May 6.”

Uehara: “There are still a few days, so I hope we can do more from here while prioritizing our teamwork. Today we were able to do some tag moves, and we got the win, which is something that we’ve been thinking about for a long time, so I hope we can improve our relationship even more in the next two weeks.”

HIMAWARI: “We’re riding a wave right now, so I want to keep this momentum going and ride it even higher.”

This was tricky because I tried looking up ものもらい, and I’m not even sure I understand this in English… “琉那もありがと、ものもらい(大久保の右目のものもらいを見て)”

“Thank you to Runa, too, your eye infection.” (looking at her right eye) “Runa, you also have a singles match on May 6 with Manase-san, so let’s all do our best.”

Okubo: “Let’s do our best!”

HIMAWARI: “I’m going to do my best!”

Uehara: “I’m going to do my best!”

Daisy Monkey and Haru’s comments:

Suzume: “The two of them challenged us the other day, and this was a preview match heading into Korakuen Hall on May 6, but it’s frustrating to lose.”

Endo: “I’m disappointed that they beat us.”

Suzume: “We’ve always felt their momentum, but we more than anyone else know that momentum alone isn’t enough to win the belts. However, it wasn’t just momentum that they showed in today’s match, so we’re going to focus our determination even more and defend our belts.”

This was a bit tricky to translate: “負けて前哨戦取られたのは悔しいけど、でもやっぱあの2人の目が好きだな。あの、目、熱い目、真っ直ぐな目ね、私たちも燃えるね.”

Endo: “I’m disappointed to lose the preview match, but I really like their gaze. But that fiery gaze, those passionate eyes looking straight ahead, we have that, too. On May 6 at Korakuen, we’re going to defend our belts.”

Suzume: “Thank you for fighting alongside us, Haru. I’m sorry I couldn’t help you.”

Endo: “You’re getting stronger, huh?” (laughs)

This was a bit tricky: “前哨戦に関わらせていただくのはすごい嬉しいし、やっぱりタイトルに向けても一番勢いのある、みんなそれに向かって動いてるところを間近で感じられるのはすごい自分の刺激にもなるし、でも私はきょう足を引っ張る形になってしまったので.”

Kazashiro: “I’m really happy I got to be part of a preview match, and with them having the most momentum heading into the title match, being able to experience everyone’s movements from up close as they head toward that match, it’s really inspiring to me, even though today I held them back…”

Endo: “No, not at all.”

Kazashiro: “Suzume-san and Arisu-san have the title match, and I also have my next trial awaiting me, so I’m going to do my best.”

Endo: “At Korakuen, let’s do this!”

Suzume: “Let’s all do our best!”

Endo: “We’ll do our best!”

The main event was Shoko and Yuki Aino vs Miu and Moka! Shoko got another win in this one, so surely she’s going to win the big one at the next show and the last vestiges of twitter will dissolve in the resulting meltdown among the TJPW fandom.

Here’s the post-match:

Nakajima: “I will not lose. That’s all, thank you.”

This was tricky: “やれ新時代の幕開けとか、オマエら何言ってんだよ。まだ私の許しが出てないだろー!とはいえやっぱりみんな強いわ.”

“‘The dawn of a new era’ and all that, the things that you’re all saying. I won’t allow it to happen yet! That said, everyone is admittedly pretty strong. Thank you, Yuki.”

Aino: “I thought Shoko Nakajima was incredible. I saw her do a whole bunch of super cool actions that were beyond me, but I think she still has so many things left in her toolkit.”

This was tricky: “それにビクビク怯えてくれたら勝ちやすいね。勝ちやすい相手じゃないっていうのはよくわかってます。でもね、こうやってペースを乱して行くことがね、次の一勝につながると思ってるので、私は変化球もストレートも投げれる選手であり続けたいし、このスタイルは絶対に崩さないまま後楽園を迎えたいと思います。次の後楽園、ユキはベルトとかじゃないかもしれないけど、試合は全部勝たなきゃ意味がないというか、勝ちたいと思ってるのは全員いっしょだとおもうし、頑張れよ!”

Nakajima: “It’s easier to win if that has her quaking in her boots. I’m very well aware that she’s not an easy opponent to beat. But changing up the pace like this, I think that’ll lead to my next win, so I want to keep being the kind of wrestler who can throw curve balls and also pitch straight, and I want to step into Korakuen without my style wavering at all. At Korakuen, Yuki may not have a belt or anything, but all matches are meaningless if you don’t win them, or rather I think all of us want to win, so let’s do it!”

Aino: “I’m going to do my best! Good luck!”

Nakajima: “Thanks, I’ll do my best!”

This was a bit tricky. I wasn’t sure how to translate the first part, and then I wasn’t quite sure about the rest, either. Is she softening her first request by repeating it this way? “そんな私ですけど、見ててください、とにかく見ててほしいです!”

“Please come watch me! I’d like you all to, anyhow! Thank you so much for today. Please come to Korakuen too!”

Shoko and Yuki’s comments:

Nakajima: “It was our first and last preview match, and getting two consecutive wins over Miu Watanabe’s team feels huge for me.”

This was a bit difficult to pin down tone-wise:

愛野「そっか」

Aino: “Yeah?”

中島「そうなんですよ」

Nakajima: “Yeah.”

愛野「すごい」

Aino: “That’s great!”

I also wasn’t exactly sure how to translate this 焦る (and it comes up again later…): “というのもね、三番勝負とかで先に先制されてると次焦るとかあるじゃん。それと同じ感じで、あの子の性格上ちょっとね、ちょっと焦ると思う.”

Nakajima: “That’s because in a 3-bout contest or something like that, if someone gets an early win over you, you’ll panic for the next one, right? That’s how she feels to me. I think she has that sort of character; she panics a bit.”

Aino: “That’s true.”

Bits of this answer were tricky: “気付いたらフィジカル面では勝てるかどうかわからないくらいの相手になっちゃったけど、やっぱこっちには長くやってきたものがあるから、そこでね私は見てきたとか、やってきたとか、溜めてきたとかの数では負けてないと思うし、私の強みっていうのはコツコツ積み重ねタイプのレスラーだと思うから、そこの差で勝ちたいと思ってるし、そこの差で勝てたような気がします.”

Nakajima: “I realized that she’s become someone I’m not sure that I can beat in terms of physical strength, but there are things I’ve been doing here for a long time, so I think that I haven’t lost to her in terms of the number of experiences I’ve accumulated, the number of things I’ve seen and done, and I think my strength as a wrestler is that I’m the type who steadily accumulates experiences, so I want to win by taking advantage of that gap in experience between us, and I feel like that’s how I won.”

Aino: “You won the other day when you announced your challenge, right? And you won today, and the next one is Korakuen, right? If it was a 3-bout contest, you’d already have won.”

Nakajima: “I already won.”

This was tricky: “だから中島さんはもうなんにも考えずいつもの中島さん、中島翔子を全開でいって後楽園でベルト取りに行ってください.”

Aino: “So please do your normal Nakajima-san thing without thinking about it, and with Shoko Nakajima going full throttle, go get that belt at Korakuen. I have total faith in you.”

Nakajima: “Haha, hearing you saying that, a weight is lifted from my shoulders. Today I realized that I am actually pretty nervous about the title match. It comes along with the experience no matter how many years pass. I’m a little scared, but I have no choice but to do it. I’m going to do my best.”

This one was a “how do I put this in English?” problem: “怖さを持ってる中島翔子は強いんだよ!”

Aino: “Doing this with fear makes you strong! Good luck!”

Nakajima: “I will do my best!”

Miu and Moka’s comments:

Miu: “Nakajima-san announced her challenge the week before last, and this is the first and last preview match, with Korakuen next. I lost last time, and I lost this time, too.”

This was tricky! I wasn’t quite sure about who was the subject for a lot of this, but I tried my best to figure it out from context. Some tricky translation choices, too… “もかとすごい心強い気持ちだったんですけど、中島さんと今回ユキさんには結果的に敵わなかったし、試合内容とか力とかタイトルとかそういう部分では追いついてる可能性もあるんじゃないかなっていう風に自分ではちょっとは思っていて、可能性とは感じていて。ただやっぱ知識だったり、プロレス頭?だったり、学力、プロレスの学力みたいな、あと心みたいな、そういう部分だったり、いろいろやっぱ足りてないものが大きいなっていうのをこの前哨戦とこれまでの期間で感じていて、そういうところであと1週間どう勝ちにつなげていけるか頑張りたいなと思いました.”

“I felt reassured having Moka here, but we couldn’t compete with Nakajima-san and Yuki-san in terms of results. I feel a bit like there’s a possibility that I can catch up in terms of what happens in the match, and in power and titles and such. I feel that it’s possible. But in terms of knowledge, or ring IQ? I’ve really felt in this preview match and in the time leading up to it that smarts, pro wrestling smarts, like what’s in the mind, I think that there’s a whole lot that I lack in that regard, and I’m going to try my best in the week that remains to see if I can find a way to win. Thank you, Moka.”

Miyamoto: “Thank you so much. I’m disappointed that I lost, but I’ve learned a lot from watching the preview match between Miu-san and Nakajima-san, so I’m determined to do my best at Korakuen, too.”

Miu: “Wow, who are you going to be fighting? Has it been announced?”

Miyamoto: “Yes, it has.”

Miu: “Ah, so it was.”

Miyamoto: “Yes.”

Miu: “What’s the match?”

Miyamoto: “A three vs three…”

Miu: “I see.”

Miyamoto: (laughs)

Miu: “Do your very best with that.”

Miyamoto: “I will.”

This was tricky: “晴ら素しいゴールデンウィークにしたいですね。という気持ちでございます、何卒よろしくお願いいたします.”

Miu: “I want to make it a splendid Golden Week. With that kind of feeling in the air, I hope you’re all looking forward to it.”

Miu not making life easy for me with this one lol: “(中島さんが2勝していて、未詩選手に焦りがあるんじゃないかと言っていたのですが…)そうですね、焦りはめちゃくちゃあります。やっぱそういうところから自分の簡単にいうと心みたいな部分が焦って、焦ることでどんどん悪循環?悪循環していってしまうと思うので、どっかでちゃんとこのベルトを持って両国国技館で勝ったからこそ防衛する、できるって自分にもっと追い詰めて?追い込めて頑張りたいと思います.”

(Nakajima-san beat you twice, and she said that you might panic…)

“Yes, there’s a lot of panic. Coming from such a situation, putting it plainly, my heart or something like that panics, and with that panic, does it become a vicious cycle? I think it would become a vicious cycle. So with this belt that I’m holding properly somewhere, because I won it at Ryogoku Kokugikan, I’m going to drive myself even harder? I’m going to do my best and drive myself even harder so that I’m able to defend it.”

And that’s it for that show! I’m really wishing I had pushed myself harder a few days ago because now I’m going to have to really work hard to get the presser done in time while also trying to deal with a Very Stressful Event :weary:. I’m hoping to get at least half of the presser done by Friday night, and finish the rest by Saturday night at the latest, but it’ll be a bit ギリギリ with the show happening on Sunday…

There are posters, too, but only a couple, I think, so those shouldn’t be much trouble.

Here I would say that ギリギリ is used as in it was a really close match / they came close to losing.
In contrast I would say for “came down to the wire” that it’s a phrase that connotes particularly / or fits best with situations where there’s some kind of deadline? Apparently it comes from the finish line in horse racing. I guess it could be applied to scoring the pinfall in a wrestling match? But it feels to me initially like it would be talking about the time limit – like the proverbial ‘down to the wire’ moment would be that spot just before the time limit when the seconds are being announced and the wrestlers are exchanging a last series of moves that may or may not eke out a victory right at the end. Which I don’t think is what’s being talked about here, so maybe it could be swapped out for something that fits more perfectly.

I think this is fine. I’ve heard of a stye before but yeah I don’t really know what it is. I’m not sure exactly why the parentheses were necessary in the original - I guess to spell out that she does have one on her right eye in case it wasn’t clear just from the text exactly what HIMAWARI was talking about?
I wondered if maybe there was a ダジャレ in there or some specific joke with the sound Wakana makes that seems to make everyone laugh - but I think probably not and it’s just Runa laughing that makes the others laugh.

For what little it’s worth since I guess it doesn’t really make an impact on the translation, that あの is I would say the "ummm, " kind of あの.
An attempt at an (over?)direct translation would be like “Uhhh, their gaze, their burning gaze, their unwavering gaze… ours burns too.”

For the
やっぱりタイトルに向けても一番勢いのある
I think the も should be の in what she says.
I think she’s trying to say that like, preview matches are (as expected) especially forceful/energetic (everyone in the match is), since it’s leading up to a title match.

Kinda weird the Shupro transcript omits the "Miu, " part at the start of this. She’s directly addressing Miu here (which is why she says more after it – that was just all she had to say to Miu).

Haha, I feel like you should maybe play some Like a Dragon games or translate a promo or two from a more aggressive promotion :sweat_smile:, as the first part here is missing the disdain.
the やれ here is (I assume) like half of a やれやれ. And would be like, very roughly, “sheesh!” or like also very roughly ‘well well look at this mess I’m going to have to clean up’
and the オマエら何言ってんだよ。 would be closer to “what the hell are you all saying?”
“Sheesh, ‘dawn of the new era’? What the hell are you all talking about!” would be my attempt.

I would say the それに here is the grammar それに, like “and”, “besides”, “moreover”, “to add to that”, rather than “that.” (also with くれる it would be the receiver who gets に)

Not especially important, but I think she’s speaking in general in this part. Like that’s how she generally wrestles, to pick up the next victory. Rather than just specifically the next one right now.

I think this is okay. I guess yeah, it’s softening. The そんな私ですけど I would also say is probably further softening in a humble sort of way, maybe.

I think this is okay.

I think with the そっか - Aino didn’t know Nakajima had gotten two consecutive wins, so it’s a reaction to the raw facts (rather than Shoko’s reaction to it). Maybe “Wait, really?” “Yeah!” “Wow!”

I think “panic” is maybe a bit too strong here. Perhaps “get anxious”/“get nervous”

The 気付いたら here should be more like “Before I realized it, she’s become…”
I feel like I’m drawing on one of those JLPT grammar books as the source there…

I might tweak this to “who steadily builds up and improves” to nix the repetition in the English and make it sound more active.

Weirdly, the shupro transcript dropped a 今日 here, so I would change it to “that’s how I won today.”

I would say she’s talking about herself and is the subject for the whole section here, and I would probably use “I” in the part at the beginning rather than “we” partly because of that and partly because of the 今回 - she’s talking from her perspective about both of the two matches not resulting in wins for her. Moka was reassuring, but she still didn’t manage to get results from Nakajima and (this time) Yuki. (but it doesn’t matter that much)

The あと here has the 心みたいな as a separate item in the list from the preceding ones (like, "also, "), not clarifying something (which is how it comes across in English right now).

That’s one of the weirder typos I’ve seen!
晴ら素しい should be 素晴らしい
how does a kanji spoonerism in text transcription even happen??

(same comment I had before about ‘panic’)

For this part:

悪循環?悪循環
does it become a vicious cycle? I think it would become a vicious cycle.

and also for that matter this part:

追い詰めて?追い込めて
I’m going to drive myself even harder? I’m going to do my best and drive myself even harder

She’s second-guessing her choice of words, not actually asking anything more than that. So it should be less like “does it become a vicious cycle?” and more like something like “it becomes a… vicious cycle? Yeah, vicious cycle.”

For this part:

やっぱそういうところから
Coming from such a situation

I think this should be “Because there’s that part of me”

For this part:

自分の簡単にいうと心みたいな部分が
putting it plainly, my heart or something like that

She’s struggling to express exactly what part of herself she’s talking about here. (there’s a pause and a なんだろう that got omitted in the trancscript). And she’s making it clear with the phrasing that the words don’t quite get at the specific thing she has in mind.
My attempt at a tweak to strengthen that feeling in the translation would be maybe:
“my… to oversimplify it, my heart”

怖さを持ってるfallynleafは強いんだよ!がんばって!

I haven’t gone through and implemented the edits to the last show yet because I figured I’d prioritize finishing the rough draft of the April 30 press conference so that you didn’t have to rush to help edit it, rodan. Ideally, if all goes as planned, I’ll be able to edit the other one later in the day on Saturday. (And if things do not go as planned, getting the translations finished by Sunday will be the least of my worries…)

I spent like seven hours working on this across the past two days :weary:. I’m not sure it’s my best work, but hopefully it’s good enough…

Here’s the transcript for the presser, and here’s the video.

The transcript starts with Miu vs Shoko, but the video starts with the tag match, so I guess I’ll start with that one!

HIMAWARI: “We’re challenging for the tag belts as the same generation tag team with the same debut date. We were both each other’s first win and we’re rivals, and precisely because of that, I think we’re each the person who understands the other the most. I am here to tell you all how much fun there is in pro wrestling. On GOTENROKU, I’m gonna fight in my own way—in our own way, and we’re gonna win.”

(Pleased that I saw ゴーテンロク in the transcript and figured it out before I even tried to Yomitan it or google it, haha.)

Uehara: “We were able to win the preview match the other day by successfully using a tag move together. The two of us have momentum now.”

This was a bit tricky: “私は大食いでもどんな食べ物でもガムシャラに執念で食べきってきました。ゴーテンロク後楽園ホール、でじもんの2人を食いつくす勢いで闘いたいと思います.”

“I have been eating up all my meals with reckless and persistent abandon, no matter what it is or how big the meals are. At GOTENROKU Korakuen Hall, I want to fight Daisy Monkey with the urge to devour them both. We’re going to be the ones to take those belts!”

Suzume: “We, Daisy Monkey, have had many, many, many frustrating experiences together, and at Ryogoku Kokugikan, we finally had these belts in our hands. I never want to drop them, and I want to defend them with Arisu forever and ever, and this is our ever so important very first defense of those belts. When I became a champion, I thought again about what kind of wrestler I wanted to be.”

The start of this was a bit confusing, and I wasn’t sure about some bits in the next sentence: “そしたらもともとあった思いではあるんですけど、私は誰かの一歩踏み出す勇気をあげられる人になりたい。それは見ている人が少し頑張れるきっかけになったりとか、もしかしたらプロレスをやりたいと思ってくれる子が生まれたりとか、そしていろんな強いタッグとももちろん防衛戦をやりたいけど、今までベルトに挑戦してこなかった選手にも挑戦したい一歩を踏み出してもらえるようなチャンピオンになりたいと思ってて.”

“And I’ve always harbored this thought, but I want to be the kind of person who can give someone courage to take that next step forward. That means giving the people watching the push they need to work just a bit harder, or maybe inspiring a child to want to do pro wrestling. And of course I want to have a lot of title defenses with various strong tag teams, but I want to be the kind of champion who encourages wrestlers who’ve never challenged for a belt before to take that step forward and challenge for one. It may have just been by chance that the two of them came forward at this time, but even if it’s a coincidence, I might have been the start of something for someone, so I’m really, really happy about that. I’ve been watching the two of them since their debut, and in the tournament and when they announced their challenge, I’ve really felt that their momentum at those times was really, really incredible. We’ve been recklessly fighting our senpais using our own momentum as a weapon. That’s why I felt that we were in a position to take on the momentum of our own juniors. But you can’t win a belt with just momentum. We’re the ones who know that best of all. But since the two of them showed a lot more than just momentum in the preview match, we’re even more fired up. We will never let go of those belts!”

Arisu’s answer was a bit tricky: “私はベルトを持つ前から、ベルトをもったらこうしたい、あそこ行きたい、もちろん地元凱旋もそうだし、そういうイメージはあったんですよ。でも、今こうやって私たちがベルトを巻いている。もちろん地元凱旋していろんな人にベルト姿を見せて、白虎隊の銅像とかあるんだけど、その銅像とかにも見せつけて、なんならかけちゃって一緒に写真撮っちゃってみたいな感じで、全国の銅像とかあるよね? そういう各名所みたいなところを回って、47都道府県全部チェックマークするから、ベルト持って2人で全部埋め尽くして。47都道府県だけじゃなく違う国の名所とかにもいっちゃうよみたいな感じで、2人でこのベルトを守ります!”

Arisu: “Before I had the belt, I had an image of what I wanted to do when I had it, like ‘I want to go over there, and of course bring it back to my hometown’. But here we are now with the belts around our waists. Of course we want to go back to our hometowns and show everyone the belts, and there’s a bronze statue of the Byakkotai, I also want to show off the belts to that statue, and if we want, we can hang up the belts and take pictures with them—There are bronze statues like that all over the country, right? We’ll go to each place like that and check off all 47 prefectures, so we’re going to bring our belts and cover the whole entire area. And not only the 47 prefectures, but we’ll also go to places of interest in other countries. With that feeling in mind, the two of us are going to defend our belts!”

――For the team of challengers, it must have taken a lot of courage to challenge for a belt only a little over a year into your career. Can you speak on that determination?

Uehara: “We were in the Next Generation Tournament, which was a tournament between the six of us who were in the same class, and so the two of us who advanced to the finals challenged for the belts. I think some people might say that it’s too early, but we don’t think so, and we’re determined to win the belts this time.”

This was tricky: “すごく緊張もするけど、『ねくじぇねトーナメント』が私たちのきっかけで新しい世代、今新世代の4人がベルトを持っている形だけど、さらにその下の代が追い上げて、今同期6人、さらに後輩3人、すでに10人弱いるこの中で私たちが先陣切ってベルトを持って、私たちが東京女子を盛り上げていくんだぞという気持ちが今は強いです.”

HIMAWARI: “I’m very nervous, but the Next Generation Tournament was our chance, and the belts are held by four people in the new generation now, but the generation beneath them is catching up, and the six people in our class, and also our three juniors, out of those ten people, we’re going to take the lead and hold the belts, and we’re going to make TJPW more exciting. We feel that very strongly now.”

――For the champion team, after facing the challengers in a preview match, is there anything you’re worried about other than their momentum?

Suzume: “The speed of their evolution. I’ve been watching them since their debut, and I myself challenged for a belt a little more than a year after my debut, so I think we actually have a lot in common, but their speed of evolution is beyond compare. During the match, too, as we fought, I could feel them getting stronger and stronger, and additionally, they both had strong feelings—I could also feel their mental strength during the match. I think Wakana has a very strong desire to win, and HIMAWARI has the strength to just endure and endure and never lose, so I think those are strengths of theirs that we need to watch out for.”

――For the challenger team, Suzume mentioned the speed of your evolution.

HIMAWARI: “Speaking of speed, it’s actually Daisy Monkey who’s overwhelmingly fast. I’m very happy to hear her say that we’re evolving fast, so we want to continue to evolve during the match so that we can keep up with the speed of those two.”

Uehara: “Daisy Monkey is good at tag moves and teamwork, So even though we’re a thrown-together tag team and not an official team, we have a bit of time left until Korakuen Hall on May 6, so I want to challenge ourselves to further improve our teamwork.”

――For the champion team, Uehara said that she’ll “devour” you.

Arisu: “Can she eat us? I won’t let you have a single bite! That’s all!”

――Uehara, if you win the belt, will it be beneficial for your entertainment activities?

This was a bit tricky: “東京女子プロレスで選手としてデビューしてから、実際に(芸能の)仕事も増えましたし、相乗効果でプロレスと芸能活動、2つともいい感じに上がってきているので、もしベルトを獲ったら芸能のほうもすごく充実すると思いますし、ベルトを獲って芸能のほうで活躍して、東京女子をさらに広めていけたらなと思います.”

Uehara: “Since I debuted in TJPW, I have actually gotten more work (in the entertainment industry), and the synergy between my pro wrestling and entertainment work has been increasing, so I think if I win the belt, it’ll also enhance my entertainment activities. I hope to win the belt and be very active on the entertainment side so that I can further promote TJPW.”

And that’s it for that one!

Next up, Miu vs Shoko for the Princess of Princess belt!

On the 30th of April, with ring announcer Sayuri Namba presiding, a contract signing was held at the Abema Towers in Shibuya, Tokyo for the two major title matches at Korakuen Hall on May 6.

Nakajima: “On March 31, TJPW held our second Ryogoku Kokugikan show. I think this show represented great change for the fans as well as for each and every one of the wrestlers.”

This was a bit tricky: “私個人的にも強烈に心の変化があったところがあって…それは私とハイパーミサヲはアジャコング&マックス・ジ・インペイラー組と対戦をしたんです。最大のリスペクトをこめて、アジャさんではなくアジャコング呼ばせてください。アジャコングが入場したその時のオーラがホントにホントにすごかったんです。客席のどよめきとか、ただ歩いてるだけの一挙動一挙動、すべてのお客さんの目線を釘付けにする、そんなすごさがアジャコングにはあったんです.”

“For me personally, there was also a strong change in my spirit… That is to say, Hyper Misao and I faced the team of Aja Kong and Max The Impaler. With the utmost respect, please allow me to refer to her as Aja Kong rather than Aja-san. When Aja Kong made her entrance, her aura was really, really incredible. The commotion of the crowd and such, being able to get the whole crowd’s gaze glued to her every movement just by walking, that’s how amazing Aja Kong is. After facing her, I strongly felt that she really is incredible. Over the past ten years, TJPW has achieved our dream of having a show at Ryogoku Kokugikan. And I think my dream for the next ten years is to become Aja Kong. In order to become an amazing and strong wrestler, of course a belt is key. Miu Watanabe is amazing. I want to challenge her and become even greater than before.”

This was a bit tricky: “2022年に山下実優に挑戦して以来、このベルトに挑戦するわけなんですけど。2年前の自分がチャンピオンになれたんだから、いまの自分がチャンピオンになれないわけはないって思ってます.”

“Since challenging Miyu Yamashita in 2022—I’ve challenged for the belt, but—Since I was able to become champion two years ago, I think I can’t not become a champion as I am now. So, please watch me fight, everyone.”

Miu: “I was able to win the belt at Ryogoku Kokugikan, and then I lost directly to Nakajima-san in my first match in Japan as part of the champion team. When I won the belt at Ryogoku Kokugikan, I started to see so many dreams and goals, things I wanted to do more of. One of those things was that I started to think that I’d like to have a title match with Nakajima-san someday, with this belt on the line. But I felt that ‘I want to do it someday’ was a very naive thought as the champion. I hadn’t realized that holding this belt as the champion meant that I would always be a target.”

I wasn’t sure what the best translation was for 甘い考え in this: “でも、そのいつかしたいながチャンピオンとしてすごい甘い考えだったんだなっていう風に感じました.”

“I have to put all of those naive thoughts aside and work harder and harder. Nakajima-san is the person I respect the most in the world.”

The “社会人で面接官の人” bit of this was a bit tricky: “社会人で面接官の人に「一番尊敬している歴史上の人物は誰ですか?」って言われても「中島翔子です!」って言えるくらい尊敬している存在なんですよ.”

“Even if I were asked by an interviewer in the workforce, ‘Who is the historical figure that you respect the most?’ I would say, ‘Shoko Nakajima!’ I respect her so much, I could say that. For me, she’s on par with Oda Nobunaga. I respect her that much.”

This was tricky: “私がプロレスラーとして物心ついた時に、中島さんはいつだって道場で頑張っていて、努力していて。でも本人はそれを努力しているからとは思ってなくて.”

“While I was maturing as a pro wrestler, Nakajima-san was always putting in hours at the dojo and working hard. But she didn’t think it was because she was working hard. Watching her steadily putting in the work all the time, I thought I should also do my best to work hard so that I could follow in her footsteps, that I should keep plugging away and do my best in pro wrestling, even if it didn’t lead to any results. That’s why I’m so happy to be able to face Nakajima-san with this belt on the line, and I’m sure that I will grow even more as the champion going forward. With this as my first defense, I will absolutely defend my belt.”

――Are you especially conscious of the new generation?

This answer was a bit tricky: “それはいろんな方に新世代とか言われるんですけど、私は新旧という言葉がそもそも嫌いなんです。なので、私は山下実優と闘う時も坂崎ユカと闘う時も渡辺未詩と闘う時も、全部同じ感情だと思ってます。たまたま後輩がみんなベルトを持ってるんですけど…そこに対して本人たちにどうこうというよりかは、まわりで新とか旧とかそういう風に言われるのがうざいなと思ってるんですけど。自分の感情的には全部一緒でちゃんと強敵だし、覚悟を持って臨むべき相手だと思ってます.”

Nakajima: “Lots of people are calling it the new generation, but I dislike the words ‘new and old’ in the first place. When I fight Miyu Yamashita, Yuka Sakazaki, or Miu Watanabe, I feel the same way toward all of them. It just so happens that my juniors are all the ones with the belts… I get irritated by people calling them ‘new’ or ‘old’ rather than talking about anything pertaining to the actual people. I think she’s a strong enemy with the full force of all of her emotions together, and she’s an opponent that I have to face with resolve.”

――What is your specific reason for wanting to face Nakajima with the belt on the line?

This was another one that was a bit hard to put into English: “これまで中島さんはこのベルトを持っていた期間がすごい長くあって。その中でも前回の両国国技館で取った時もすごい印象的だし.”

Miu: “Nakajima-san has held the belt for a long time. And within that time, the time she won it at Ryogoku Kokugikan was really impressive. For me, the way that Nakajima-san works so hard is super cool, and I love and respect that. The first time the perpetually cool Nakajima-san won this belt… I think it was at Korakuen in May 2019.”

This was a bit tricky: “その時に試合が始まる前のVTRで「努力では天才には敵わない」っていう言葉を言っていて。それがその時すごいショックで、なんでそんなこと言うの?みたいな、試合前に泣いちゃったんですよ。悔しくて。でも試合でちゃんと結果を出して、このベルトを取ってくれて。その時がすごい印象的で。このベルトを持っている中島翔子もかっこいいし、もちろんベルトを持っていない中島翔子もかっこいいし。でも私の中でこのベルトを持っていた期間の時に特に印象的だった5月の後楽園っていうのは今回も同じ状況なので.”

“Before the match started, she said in the VTR, ‘hard work is no match for genius.’ That was a huge shock to me at that time. Like, why would she say that? I cried before the match. I was disappointed. But she got results in that match, and she won the belt. That time left quite the impression on me. Shoko Nakajima is so cool with the belt, and of course she’s cool without it, too. But that time where she held the belt that left such an impression on me was a Korakuen show in May, which is the same situation as now. Nakajima-san said that the person she was two years ago is the same as she is now, and I feel once again that she’s an incredibly tough opponent, so I’m going to do my best.”

――Two years ago, you stated that you wanted to challenge as if it were your last time. Do you feel that same resolve this time?

I think I maybe got this, but I wanted to make sure I had the tone right: “そうですね。いまこの気持ち、このシチュエーションで試合ができるのは、次の後楽園が最後だと思ってますよ。ずっと一緒に試合できるわけでもないだろうし、何が起こるか分からないですからね、人生は。だからこそ、負けたけど次もう1回挑戦すればいいやとは思いたくないと思ってます.”

Nakajima: “Yes. I think that getting to have a match in a situation like this, with these feelings, the next one at Korakuen will be the last one. We won’t be able to do matches together forever, and you never know what’ll happen in life. That’s why I don’t want to do it with the mindset that if I lose, it’s alright because I can just challenge again.”

――Watanabe said that she has as much respect for you as she does for Oda Nobunaga?

This was tricky: “織田信長は荷が重いなと思ってるんですけど…尊敬してますって言ってくれるのはありがたいんですけど、別に…ですね(笑)。この10年、けっこう道場で一緒に過ごす時間は坂崎ユカが一番長かったなって思ってたのが、近年道場にいるといつも会うのが渡辺未詩だったり、2人っきりの時もあったりとか…っていうのがここ数年ですかね。なんて言うんですかね、一緒に練習する相手ってかんじだから、そんな風に言われるとこそばゆいかんじもしますよね.”

Nakajima: “I think getting compared to Oda Nobunaga is a big responsibility to bear… I appreciate her saying that she respects me, but I’m not…” (laughs) “For the past ten years, I thought that Yuka Sakazaki was the person I spent the most time with at the dojo, but in recent years, whenever I was there, it was always Miu Watanabe whom I saw there, and sometimes it was just the two of us… I think you could say that for the past few years. What do you even say to that, huh? Since she’s the person I’m always training with, getting talked about like that is a bit embarrassing. Her generation was what made me feel that I didn’t want to ever miss training. It was so interesting seeing how she had changed every time I went to the dojo. And I thought that if I didn’t stay cognizant of those changes, I would get overtaken in an instant. That’s how it started.”

――Your last singles match was in the tournament two years ago. Does your victory there give you confidence?

This was a bit tricky: “そうですね、2年前はすごい自信につながる夏だったなって風には感じているんですけど。でも、あの時は無我夢中に進みすぎて、突き進むことしか…まわりが見えていなかった夏だったので。それが自信にめちゃくちゃつながるかって言われたら、自分の中では直接的につながってこなくて.”

Miu: “Well, I do feel that that summer two years ago gave me a lot of confidence. But at the time, I lost myself in advancing too fast, and all I could do was push forward… That summer, I couldn’t see what was around me. So if you ask me if that gave me a lot of confidence, I don’t think it directly did. Last time in Ryogoku with Yamashita-san, too, even though I was able to beat her two summers ago, that didn’t give me confidence, either. So I wonder if beating her this time is what will finally give me confidence. Last time was just a fluke, and I think of it as just a miracle of that summer. I want to be able to get a proper win this time. I don’t think I was really all that strong back then, but this time, I feel that my body… I think there’s a possibility that I might have caught up in terms of physicality. I will do my best to win.”

And that’s it for that one! Miu’s gonna make everyone have to learn a bit of Japanese history, haha.


Lastly, the posters! There are only two (and only one with something requiring translation, but the other one is cute so I'm sharing it anyway)

新しい波。

A new wave

For this part, I would say
こうしたい、あそこ行きたい
are general examples of her imagining what she would want to do when she had a belt. “I wanna do this, I wanna visit that” / “I wanna do such and such, wouldn’t it be awesome to go to so and so”, whatever - that kind of thing.
もちろん地元凱旋もそうだし I would say is outside of those general examples - she’s saying like, wrestling with the belt back in her hometown was of course also one of those things she was picturing, so it’s interjecting a specific into her general description of the kind of ideation she was doing. (which I guess is to word the minor quibble that I would leave it out of the quotes around the general part)

A minor tweak also is I would definitely describe そういうイメージ as being plural, as she implies many with those general descriptors and also mimes a whole swirl of ideas.


I would probably phrase it as like, “I was picturing all the things I wanted to do”.

For:

もちろん地元凱旋していろんな人にベルト姿を見せて、白虎隊の銅像とかあるんだけど
Of course we want to go back to our hometowns and show everyone the belts, and there’s a bronze statue of the Byakkotai,

Minor but I would phrase it with “I” rather than “we”, just since it’s her hometown, Aizuwakamatsu that has that statue and that she clearly has lots of love for.

For:

その銅像とかにも見せつけて、なんならかけちゃって一緒に写真撮っちゃってみたいな感じで
I also want to show off the belts to that statue, and if we want, we can hang up the belts and take pictures with them

Pretty sure the なんなら would be if they want - i.e. the teenagers in the statue. :smile: (since it’s about the other party’s wishes, not yours).
She’s describing showing the belts to the statue as if they were (fully animate) friends from her hometown.

You’ve overlooked the 弱 making her math sound more questionable. “there’s already a little less than 10 people, and out of those,”

By the way, about:

『ねくじぇねトーナメント』が私たちのきっかけで
the Next Generation Tournament was our chance

Really doesn’t matter very much but I don’t think the sense of “chance” quite matches “きっかけ” here. Here it would be more of an “impetus”. Like roughly I’d describe the structure of what she’s saying as “The Next Generation Tournament being the impetus for our tagging together, a new generation – right now 4 people from a new generation hold all the belts but I mean the generation even newer than that – we’re catching up”

I don’t think the synergy is increasing, so much as like, “synergistically, they’re both developing well”

I wanna see Shoko achieve this dream!! Shoko presented with a full-on giant kaiju aura around her would be really cool to see…

She actually hasn’t challenged for this belt since then (she challenged Max The Impaler for the International Princess Championship, but cagematch doesn’t have a Princess of Princess challenge from her since she lost it) - that “以来、このベルトに挑戦するわけなんですけど” is setting that up, like “This is actually the first time I’ll be challenging for this belt since 2022 against Miyu Yamashita.” (the ‘This is actually…’ is my gloss for わけなんですけど and I think the ‘it’s the first time since’ is implied by the phrasing with 以来 - note also the tense is 挑戦する not 挑戦した).

Yeah with that part I’d say she’s saying essentially like, “Even if I were asked in a job interview”

(great demonstration of the ‘nope not me!’ hand gesture by Shoko tempering the compliments!)
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私がプロレスラーとして物心ついた時に
While I was maturing as a pro wrestler

I think I would go with something more “since my very beginning as a pro wrestler” or something.
In normal life, 物心ついた時 is like, when you go from being an infant to being a child with a basic understanding of the world around you. Like, “as far back as I can remember.” So in pro wrestling terms I would figure it would be like, after she got her bearings and lost the initial bewilderment of “am I really doing this” and fully felt an actual trainee/rookie and could take in information seriously.

I would say the subject is the 全部 - they’re all strong enemies, they’re all opponents she needs to face with resolve.

I watched the VTR (does that acronym exist in English / play to Japanese pro wrestling fans enough to work?) to check on what was said and the feeling (got me a bit too!) and I think the thing I would tweak here is I don’t think “I was disappointed.” is good for “悔しくて。” I know it’s the most common gloss for it in the other situations where it’s encountered, but here, the pain she’s describing is the pain of seeing this person she so admires for her hard work express that she feels her own hard work ultimately doesn’t matter. And so I don’t think “disappointment” captures that, as with that it sounds like she was disappointed in Shoko which I don’t think is really what she’s saying. “frustrated” maybe. But I think it’s a pain for Shoko rather than from Shoko - like wanting the person you admire to be happy and recognize they’re worthy of that admiration, etc.
My attempt would maybe be “It hurt” or “I hurt for her.”

Here the (so and so)期間の時に, 特に(such and such) is essentially the same as the その中でも from earlier. She’s saying of the spans when Shoko held the belt, the May Korakuen especially made an impression and that happens to be the same circumstances as now.

Yeah I think this is fine – it might still read a little open to misinterpretation? Like I think she’s saying like, this is the last time they’re going to have a match in these specific circumstances, with these specific feelings - it’s not like they can have infinite matches together and play back the hits indefinitely, and so given that and how you never know what might happen, she doesn’t want to bank on a ‘next time.’
So for that first part I would maybe tweak it to “I think that this next Korakuen is the last time we’ll have a match with these feelings, with these circumstances.”

Finished the first half-ish of the May 6 Korakuen Hall show! This was another pretty long one because I have full transcripts, and every match has a comment…

First up was Shino vs Toga! I was actually cruelly rooting for Shino to lose and continue her losing streak, haha, but 神様 smiled down on her and she ended up getting what I would call an upset win! I was pleasantly surprised by how good this match was; it didn’t feel like a rookie bout at all. They’ve both come a long way! Shino’s desperation really came through in this match and helped sell the emotion of it really well.

Shino’s comments were almost impossible for me to understand without the transcript (and I had trouble following them even with one…):

Shino: (crying loudly for a while) “I got a win! I’m so happy that I won. I’m glad that I could experience this feeling for the first time after winning. I hadn’t been able to progress past my goal of getting my first victory, and that was very painful, but it makes me so happy to think that I can finally talk out loud about my goals and the future. It’s hard to find the words right now, but this victory was thanks to everyone’s support. It was thanks to everyone around me. So I want to work even harder. I think this is just the start. Thank you very much.”

(Do you feel that you’ve caught up to your peers now?)

“I feel like I’m able to run along the same road now. But I don’t feel like I’ve caught up to them or anything.”

This question and her answer were a bit tricky to word: “(前説で遅れて出てきたりと、この一戦に懸けていた?)集中していたら、みんな(アプガの3人)出ていました。今日は申し訳ないんですけど、今日はこの試合で頭いっぱいでした.”

(You were late coming out for the opening. Were you focused on this one match?)

“While I was focusing on that, everyone (the Up Up Girls) went out there. I’m sorry about today. My mind was fully occupied with the match today.”

Toga’s comments:

Toga: “I lost, huh?”

This was a bit tricky: “でも正直負けると思ってないと言ったら上からになっちゃうかもしれないですけど、体格ともかもあるし。でも実際、志乃さんには自分が2回勝っているというので、自分に自信を持っていたんですけど、最後、カウンターでも立ち上がってきたのは正直ビックリしたし。最後打ち勝った時も、これは決まったなとどこかで思っていて、最後私のロックボトムを決めようと思ったけど、志乃さんは最後まで諦めてなくて。私の「これは勝ったな」という隙を突かれたのかなと思っていて.”

“But if I said that I honestly didn’t think I could lose, I might be speaking down to her, though I do have the size advantage. But actually, I’d beaten Shino-san twice, so I was confident in myself, but I was honestly surprised to see her stand up at the end even with that counter. When I won the strike exchange at the end, I was thinking that somewhere in this I was going to hit my finisher, and I was going to hit Rock Bottom, but Shino-san refused to give up until the bitter end. She caught me off guard just when I was thinking ‘I’ve won.’ I think I was overconfident that there’s no way I’d lose, so that’s something to reflect on, and I’m really disappointed, but I’m also a little happy for Shino-san getting her first win, and my feelings are complicated and a bit of a mess, but if we’re able to fight again, I also won’t give up until the end, and instead of thinking that I’ve already won, I’m going to catch my breath AFTER I’ve won. I will get revenge next time.”

This was another one that was a bit tricky to put into English: “これで同期として意識していく存在になる?)これまでずっと勝ってきたけど、それはそれで意識はしていたけど、今日負けたことでさらに負けられないなという気持ちが強くなりました.”

(Does this make you extra conscious of her as a peer?)

“I’ve always been aware of her even though I’ve always won thus far, but losing to her today made me feel even more determined not to lose.”

After that was Moka’s extremely important 3 vs 3 (she teamed up with Uta and Kaya against Chika, Kira, and Mahiro). I don’t remember much about this one, but it was fine for what it was, which was an opportunity for the rookies to show Korakuen what they were capable of.

Kaya/Moka/Uta’s comments:

Toribami: “Thank you very much. It feels good to get a win at Korakuen. Are you alright? Uta, was this your first time (At Korakuen)?”

Uta: “Yes, it was. I try my best at every venue, but even though I thought I’d try even harder, I still wasn’t able to do anything. But you won, so it’s alright. I’m going to try my best to get a win at Korakuen next time.”

Toribami: “You worked hard, huh?”

Moka: “It was also Chika-chan and Kira-chan’s first Korakuen show, so they were probably both nervous, too. You said you couldn’t do anything, but you worked super hard.”

Toribami: “You did your best.”

Moka: “Thanks to Kaya-san, we got the win.”

Toribami: “I could see Chika and Kira getting fired up, so I had to step up and be the proper senpai.” (laughs) “I’m glad we were able to win together.”

Mahiro/Chika/Kira’s comments:

Mahiro: “We lost…”

Chika: “Sorry, I lost.”

Mahiro: “Was this your first Korakuen show?”

Both: “Yes.”

Mahiro: “Were you nervous?”

Kira: “Before the match, I felt sick.”

This was a bit tricky: “それは緊張しているね。2人とも後楽園の初陣で負けてしまったんですけど、力は出せた?”

Mahiro: “You were that nervous, huh? Even though the two of you lost in your first Korakuen match, did you give it your all?”

Both: “Yes.”

Mahiro: “Then let’s keep showing more of what we can do. We’ll keep doing our best, so please keep supporting us.”

Both: “Please continue to support us!”

Then Runa faced Yuna Manase, which was fun because I hadn’t realized how much they had in common until this match! Runa held her own about as well as could be expected, I thought (though she also lost as expected).

Yuna’s comments:

Manase: “Runa Okubo? First of all, doesn’t her face look different than how it looks in the match graphic? I guess maybe some time has passed since they took the promotional photos.”

This was a bit tricky to translate: “あの対戦カードで見るよりも、もっともっとギラギラで熱い、いい女でしたね.”

“She’s quite the woman, more sparkling and passionate than she appeared in that match graphic. How old is she? First year in high school? Then she’d be 16 years old.”

I wasn’t quite sure about the last part of this: “私はフォーエバー東京女子プロレス親族なんだけど、どんどんどんどん新しい子供、孫とは言わないよ.”

“I’m forever a member of the TJPW family, and we’re getting more and more children—I won’t say grandchildren. But there are so many people turning up. And there are still so many of them that I want to fight. Runa and I use a lot of the same moves, like tackling and such, so I want to team up with her. I want us to do a lot more things together. I’m going to get even stronger and come back, and then I want to have another match with Runa. I’m looking forward to it.”

Runa’s comments:

Okubo: “Thank you very much.”

This was a bit tricky: “歴が違うというのと、一番最年少という理由にはしたくなくて、負けたくないと思っていたし、みんな期待してくれていたから、高校生で先輩に勝つというのを今日叶えたかったし、まなせさんと闘うのは毎回あることじゃないし、特別な日だったので、今日まで練習とか対策とか頑張っていたけど、かなわなかったし.”

“I didn’t want to use the difference in our experience or the fact that I’m the youngest as an excuse, and I didn’t want to lose. Everyone is expecting a lot from me, so I wanted to beat a senpai as a high school student today. It’s not every day that I get to fight Manase-san, so today was a special day, but even though I worked hard training and coming up with countermeasures for today, I still couldn’t measure up. I think my physical strength and the feelings that I put into pro wrestling still weren’t enough to win.”

The end of this part was a bit tricky: “今日負けちゃって悔しい気持ちでいっぱいだけど、「また闘おう」って言ってもらえたから、今日のことを繰り返さないように練習して、もっともっとすごいって感じてもらえるように、これからも頑張りたいと思います.”

“I’m extremely disappointed that I lost today, but she said ‘let’s fight again,’ so I’m going to keep practicing so that I won’t repeat the events of today, and I’m going to keep working hard so that people will feel that I’m even more amazing.”

This was a bit confusing to me because I couldn’t figure out exactly what they were talking about (watching Yuna? watching the singer?), but I think I heard プロレス in the video, so maybe it’s that?

(まなせの入場曲を歌っていたように見えたが昔から見ていた?)そうですね。お父さんが好きなので一緒に見ていた時に曲も好きになって。闘えるというのを光栄に感じたし、曲も好きだし、とてもカッコいい選手だと知っていたので。今日闘えたことは光栄だと思います。

(It looked like you were singing along to Manase’s entrance music. Have you been watching her for a while?)

“Yes. My dad likes pro wrestling, so watching it together with him, I came to like the song, too. I feel honored to be able to fight her, and I like the song, too, and I knew she was a super cool wrestler. I think it’s an honor that I was able to fight her today.”

After that was Haru vs Itoh! Sadly, my internet died right before this match kicked off and I spent basically the whole match trying to get it back on, so I missed literally the entire match :sob:. I got it back just in time for Itoh’s promo at the end…

The promo was a bit tricky because the tone was a bit difficult to nail down… I went back to the clip and tried to see how Mr. Haku tackled some of it, but he didn’t translate a few of the trickier bits and paraphrased another line I struggled a bit with coming up with an appropriate, so I wasn’t quite sure how hard to go with some of this :sweat_smile:.

伊藤「お前なんか想定内だ。お前なんかただの負け犬。でも、お前のくそだせえ姿に、ここにいるみんなは明日も仕事頑張ろうとか、学校頑張ろうとか思ってると思うよ。お前は伊藤に人生を変えられたって言ってたけど、お前ももうすでにたくさんの人の人生を変えてると思うし、お前はもう誰かにとってのヒーローだよ。だからな、ヒーローなら伊藤のことを推しとか憧れとか、そんなぬるいこと言ってんじゃねえぞ。ヒーローなら、伊藤麻希を潰しに来い。じゃあな」

Itoh: “Just as I expected. You’re just a loser. Seeing you look so fucking pathetic, I’m sure everyone here is thinking about trying their best at school or work tomorrow. You said that I changed your life, but I think you’ve already changed a lot of people’s lives, and you’re already a hero to someone. So if you’re a hero, don’t say such lame-ass things like ‘Itoh’s my bias’ or ‘I want to be her.’ If you’re a hero, come crush Maki Itoh. I’ll see you then.”

Itoh’s comments:

Itoh: “That was… easy. Sorry.”

This was a bit hard to put into English: “伊藤がくぐってきた修羅場の数を舐めないで欲しいですね。伊藤麻希は強いですよ。でも、憎たらしい人間を睨むような眼で最後見てくれたので。次闘う時は一皮剝けた風城ハルが見れると思うので、とても楽しみです.”

“I hope she never experiences the amount of hardships that I have gone through. I’m strong. But at the end, she looked at me as if she were glowering at someone she hates. The next time we fight, I’m really looking forward to seeing a battle-hardened version of Haru Kazashiro.”

(It seems that she admired you)

“That honestly makes me happy. I think it is only when you change someone’s life that you become a real pro wrestler. So I think this means that I’m a real pro wrestler. Well, I think Haru Kazashiro is a pro wrestler, too. So, well, good luck to her.”

Haru’s comments:

Haru: (crying) “When it was decided that I would wrestle Itoh-san in a singles match, I was super nervous, and I couldn’t believe it. I was scared and I wanted to run away. Before today, I’d seen so many of Itoh-san’s matches. She’s so cool, and standing in front of her today, doing pro wrestling, that’s something I’d never imagined. Itoh-san is way, way, way bigger than how she looked when I was watching her, and I couldn’t measure up at all. Today she said that I was just as expected, but if we fight again, I am going to crush her more and more. Thank you very much.”

The next match was our closest thing to a comedy match on this show (without Misao on these shows, there’s really something missing, huh?). Yuki Aino teamed up with Rika against the other two members of the 三角関係. That fact came up surprisingly less than I was expecting it to in the match itself, but it’s basically all they talked about in the comments, haha.

Yuki/Rika’s comments:

Aino: “Alright!”

Tatsumi: “We did it! Facing RakuPom today, I have the impression that the two of them team up a lot, so I didn’t like it. But we’ve been wrestling for a long time, so there’s a bond between us.”

This was a bit tricky:

愛野「絆が垣間見えたと思いますよ、要所要所」

Aino: “I think you could see some gaps in that bond; those were key points.”

辰巳「あるよね。ありました」

Tatsumi: “There were, huh? Yes, there were.”

Aino: “This was my first match in the seventh year of my career, and I thought it was meaningful that I could fight with RakuPom for the first time, since I often team up with them. I like the RakuPom team. I feel like they’re hiding infinite potential.”

This next chunk was also a bit tricky:

辰巳「いいなー。三角関係いいなぁ、三角関係なんなんですか?」

Tatsumi: “It’s good. That Love Triangle of yours is good… What even is it?”

愛野「三角関係なんなんですか?っていうのは永遠の問いみたいなのがあって。バミューダトライアングルみたいな、デルタ地帯みたいな。すごい、記者さんが『ん…?』みたいな顔してる(笑)。まぁでもね、2人には何もセーブすることなく、もっと我を発揮してほしい。私はぽむから勝てて。だから、もうちょっとなんかさ、2人を終わってからも感じたかったんだけど、さっさと私に目もくれずにハケていったから。こういうところだよな、三角関係って…って思った(笑)」

Aino: “What is the Love Triangle? That’s like an eternal question. It’s like the Bermuda Triangle, or a river delta. Incredible, the interviewer made a face like, 'Hmm…?” (laughs) “But, well, I want the two of them to show more of themselves without holding back. I was able to win because of Pom. So I wanted to feel a bit more of it after finishing the two of them, but they ignored me completely and quickly ran off. I thought, ‘so this is how it is, the Love Triangle…’” (laughs)

辰巳「ぶっ壊すまでもなかったね。これが、らしいのかな」

Tatsumi: “I didn’t even have to break them up. I wonder if this is typical.”

Aino: “But today I was able to have fun fighting with Rika-san at our own pace, so it was fun.”

辰巳「よかった! ありがとうございました!」

Tatsumi: “I’m glad! Thank you very much!”

(What are some examples of things you want them to show?)

Aino: “It’s not that deep…” (laughs)

This was a bit tricky: “あるよ。あります、こう見えて。ユキなりのエールじゃないですか?”

Tatsumi: “Yes, it is. It is; that’s how it seems to me. Isn’t this your way of giving them encouragement?”

Aino: “Yes, I’m giving them encouragement.”

Tatsumi: “Did you get the message, RakuPom?”

Aino: “Make sure you watch this video and see our comments.”

Tatsumi: “Watch it!”

I wasn’t sure about this: “見ないんだ、どうせ.”

Aino: “They won’t watch it, in any case.”

(Out of everyone, you’re the only one not on the cover of the pamphlet)

Tatsumi: “That’s right. I was pushed out, huh? I thought maybe we’d have a Love Square, but I guess I’m a lone wolf type after all. I think that suits me better. The Love Triangle is the Love Triangle. I will do my best as an only child.”

Aino: “She says all of that, but actually I stay the night at Rika-san’s place more often than Raku’s or Pom’s, so it might actually be a Love Square after all.” (laughs)

Tatsumi: “That’s a secret.”

RakuPom’s comments:

Raku: (with Pom lying down on a bench in the comment area, with Pom resting on her lap) “…She fell asleep.”

Pom: “No, she died!”

Raku: “I heard that she got beaten and died. Yuki-san did her in, huh? The cover of the pamphlet today, it’s the Love Triangle.”

Pom: (sitting up) “That’s right! But usually we team up with Yuki-san, not fight her. I was a little happy, but in the end she was really strong. I felt my love for her get even stronger.”

Raku: “Yes, that was an attack of love, huh?”

Pom: “My feelings are complicated. It’s so deep, I can’t express it with a single word.”

This next chunk was a bit tricky:

らく「じゃあこれを何かに変えたらいいのかな」

Raku: “Then maybe you should turn it into something else?”

ぽむ「何かに変えるの?」

Pom: “Turn it into something?”

らく「何にしよっかなー。何かを買うお金?」

Raku: “What should it become? Money for buying something?”

ぽむ「お金に変えるの? いい商売ですな、らくさん。それを楽しみに寝るね、ぽむは」

Pom: “Turn it into money? That’s a good business, Raku-san. I’m going to go to sleep looking forward to it.”

Raku: “You’re going to sleep, huh? Then, goodnight!”

And that’s all of the comments I’ve gotten through so far!

Sorry for the later response than usual! I figured I should finish watching the show first, and as circumstances turned out, that ended up being Saturday morning.

I’d say the start should be tweaked to ”But honestly, if I said that I didn’t think I would lose,"

From her gesture, the どこか is somewhere inside of herself.
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roughly, “Some part of me thought ‘this is it, I’ve won!’”

I don’t have a comment about the translation, but it’s a little too bad the transcript didn’t include after Mahiro’s それは緊張しているね。, Kaya’s 「けど今もっと痛い」 (selling the pain from the match being more painful than her nervous stomachache before it). I suppose it would make the phrasing harder to translate anyway…

This is kind of a quibble and who even knows really with onomatopoeia, but based on the Harta manga キラキラとギラギラ which blends art styles,

The キラキラ in the title is referring to the sparkly shojo manga one of the two, and ギラギラ is referring to the intense gekiga one (who transferred from the shojo manga world to cutthroat gekiga world as a small child).
So I would personally go with “dazzling” or “blazing” or something.
Weblio comes up with
強烈にまた、どぎつく光り輝くさま。
for ギラギラ
vs. just
光輝く様子、きらめく様子などを指す表現。
for キラキラ, so my takeaway is that there should be some intensity to ギラギラ.

Yeah it’s a joke about age so I’d maybe throw in an exclamation mark at least, or there might be a good phrase to emphasize that a little more, like “I’ll stop short of saying grandchildren!” or something better than that maybe.

I think this is fine. Just a note that the transcript seems to be cleaning up and tweaking a lot here, which may explain the difficult. I get the impression Runa is (understandably!) not yet that polished of a public speaker. I take it やっぱ is one bit of vocab that isn’t dying out among the younger generations…

I would fully take it as watching Yuna Manase and wouldn’t have registered the phrasing as at all odd. I think maybe a slightly more natural way to phrase the question in English would be like, “Have you been following her work for a long time?” - based off of like how when in promos to the audience the wrestlers often ask them please 見て, it’s not exactly the same thing as asking in English “watch me!” – I feel there’s a little bit more of a sense of following along (with their exploits), particularly with 見ている.
The question is remarking that Runa seemed to know Manase’s entrance music well enough to sing along to it, and then asking about the resulting inference - has she been watching her for a while?
Not sure exactly what he says but my best guess for the last part is “まなせさん昔から見ている選手?”
And yeah from her answer, like the プロレス that you caught, it’s clearer again that she’s talking about watching pro wrestling / Manase with her dad and coming to like the song because of that. That’s why it says 曲も好きになって. She grew to like Manase from watching her with her dad and also came to like the song. (the transcriber is again cleaning some things up though).

Incidentally, it appears the song is 相川七瀬 / 夢見る少女じゃいられない and was added to Manase’s wikipedia page as entrance music sometime in 2021. I would imagine in the context of Runa’s past, 昔 wouldn’t quite necessarily be what I would picture hearing 昔…

That’s too bad! I liked that one a lot - Haru’s already really good at the story-selling parts of a match! This show really strengthened my impression that if everything goes well over the next several years, TJPW could have something really special with Haru and Runa both.

Yeah it should end up really very very harsh I’d say (but in a way that works because of the point it turns into).

I think it’s too bad the transcript left out the start! Both because it’s a noticeably harsh and therefore striking opening, and because it sets up the context of what she says.

おいザコ!おい、ザコ、お前言うてたよな、今日は伊藤の想像を超えるぐらい頑張るって。はっきりっていうか、想定内だ。(picks up from there with お前なんかただの負け犬。)

My quick attempt:

Hey, weakling! You said it yourself didn’t you? “Today I’m going to try my very hardest, I’ll exceed what Itoh imagines of me”

That’s why 想定内 is so biting the crowd reacts. “You said you would exceed my expectations. You were exactly what I expected: just a loser.”
Damn!

One tweak I would make:

でも、お前のくそだせえ姿に、ここにいるみんなは明日も仕事頑張ろうとか、学校頑張ろうとか思ってると思うよ。
Seeing you look so fucking pathetic, I’m sure everyone here is thinking about trying their best at school or work tomorrow.

The でも at the beginning here is actually really very important, because she’s transitioning from being very mean to being very nice (while also being very mean in less important ways).
The last sentence she said was purely negative, and this is her transitioning to her point - that Haru’s try-hard loserness is already inspiring people! It’s the sentence that takes the crowd reaction from scattered shocked voices at the (seeming) cruelty before, to applause after this one.

Whereas currently in English without the でも it’s much easier to get confused and read it as still being purely very mean.

So! I would definitely throw a “but” in there, and honestly probably even make it a “But!” Put it in at the beginning and I think it makes a big difference.

Do people really say “my bias”? Has “my oshi” made it into at least weeb English-speaking fan circles enough to use? Have I quibbled about this before?

I don’t think this is right. I believe this is the “underestimate / take lightly” kind of 舐める. I see the kind of 舐める you were going for here in dictionaries but… I dunno it doesn’t feel right to me - I think that meaning is probably less common in my experience, and also I don’t feel like it would fit quite right here. It feels like there would need to be more… something? to make the meaning clear that way, if it were that. like Haru would need to be explicitly mentioned as the subject for 舐めない, when she hasn’t been.
The meaning here is rather, like this example in this corny meme image or whatever I found googling (that I won’t link to because the site made you turn off ad block and had pop-ups).
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“Don’t underestimate (X)”

This meaning is also supported by what she leads into with it: 伊藤麻希は強いですよ。
She’s saying like, (as she puts on her extreme championship belt), “Don’t take lightly the number of bloody battles I’ve lived through. Maki Itoh’s strong.”

One other small tweak:
I would maybe tweak “as if she were glowering at someone she hates”
to “as if she were glowering at a despicable person”
just because I think it reads slightly better and I think is slightly closer to the sense of 憎たらしい人間.

Haha, I think I remember somewhere during this show realizing “aw man right the broken ankle also means Hyper Misao can’t wrestle doesn’t it!” :sweat_smile: Something about Hype 2 being right then made me think solely about that and not her actual absence until now…

Ummmmmmmmmmm, so, she definitely doesn’t say かきまみえた which had me confused thinking maybe she said instead 甲斐は見えた or something, but then I noticed the noun 垣間 is a red herring in this case and there’s a phrase:
垣間見る, かいまみる, meaning to see something through gaps.
So I think she’s saying like, “I think you could see our bond here and there, in the key places.”

Like, Rika is somewhat cautiously insisting they had a bond, and Aino is agreeing but in a more tempered way - you could see their bond sometimes.

The あいの pun in あいのこうげき has gotta be intentional right? :thinking: Raku’s hard to read…
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週刊プロレス No.2261 (from August 2023)

This one’s got the Terry Funk obituary, and a Tetsuya Naito’s socks update.

It’s a really tricky question, because the answer is “my bias” is probably way more common than “my oshi”, BUT specifically in idol/kpop/etc. fandom, I think. At least, my kpop friends all use “bias” regularly (it took me a while to get used to it because I’m not in those fandom circles myself and it just sounded like incorrect English to me for a long time…). The 推し活英語 book translates 推し as “fave” but also includes “bias” in the description. However, it came out after Oshi no Ko really took off, and it seems to me at least that that show has helped popularize “oshi” among English-speaking audiences a bit more.

Honestly, I might just go with “oshi” and a translator’s note because I feel like this is a concept that would benefit TJPW fans to know, haha.

I guess I think the issue is that “bias” is a more idol fandom term and “fave” is a more pro wrestling fandom term, and with TJPW sitting somewhat in the middle, it can be hard to decide which to lean on more… 推し encompasses both words (and I would argue is somewhat it’s own concept anyway, though it’s most similar by far to the English concept of “bias”), so I would prefer to just keep it as “oshi”, but it’s the age-old problem of not wanting to fall into the nakama trap, haha…

So I dunno! I suppose maybe after explaining my reasoning, ironically I think I prefer “fave” just because I’m not sure there is enough overlap between kpop/idol fandom and weeb fandom and Japanese pro wrestling fandom for my main audience to understand “bias” or “oshi”… I’ll think on it a bit and see how I feel, haha.

Just wanted to share that that Naito interview was fantastic, haha, especially the hair question. I shared it with some other Naito fans and they also loved it (and lamented the fact that his dreadful hair choices are apparently ON PURPOSE…).

The Aiger/Mizuki Endo bit was also good!

Thanks as always for sharing these summaries!