Should I use anki to help me memorize?

This is disputed. There is scientific literature that shows that additional study helps. See here, someone has researched the effect of additional study on SRS.

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That’s interesting to know, thanks for sharing amends initial post

Granted, the last time I looked into this was a thread from about a year ago that I now can’t find, where the outcome was as I stated. I’m perfectly happy to be proved wrong, because I sometimes worry about doing extra study for that reason :slight_smile:

So the outcome, from the thread, seems to be this:

That it doesn’t hurt, and studying more will probably equate to better memorisation, but in terms of efficiency, SRS is preferable since it requires the least amount of study for retention.

It remains that if you have no grammar or other basic knowledge, studying the wanikani vocab MORE is not going to teach you Japanese.

Using WaniKani and putting WaniKani vocab in an Anki is not a useful Japanese learning strategy.

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SRS is the most efficient in terms of effort put in, but if you add in additional study on top of it you certainly aren’t going to become any worse (and will likely see some improvement), it is just less bang for your buck than SRS in terms of pure time spent.

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Yeah, @prouleau just pointed out your post and I thank you for putting in the time to write it. As I said in reply to them, when I last looked into the phenomenon (about a year ago), community opinion seemed to boil down to ‘at best, it won’t help, at worst, it might hurt’ - I am thrilled to know that research shows this not to be the case ^-^

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FYI. I do 20 a day.

I’ve made a guide about this but essentially doing 50 a day is fine when you’re at the beginning but as the program builds you want be limiting. If you do 50 now it’s fine, but when it comes back to burning time, you will end up with hundreds of reviews a day. Slow(ish) and steady is really the easiest fastest way to level. 20 a day, as you would see in two weeks, creates a speedy but manageable learning speed.

I wanna clarify that I’m making no comment about adding WK stuff in anki being a good venture without putting real emphasis on grammar, just that one shouldn’t be afraid of looking at words and kanji found in WK in fears they may “break” SRS.

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I have found that there are two circumstances where extra studying improves SRS.

  • New lessons. Doing extra studying after learning a lesson speeds up the process over failing Apprentices to see items more often.
  • Leeches These are items that gives troubles in reviews. Extra studying these items also speeds up the process of learning compared to plain SRS.

At least this is how it works for me.

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I’ve often felt that revising my kanji notes after lessons and between reviews is cheating; it seems I’ve been much too hard on myself, hehe.

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Oh yeah, I always study the kanji 2 hours after the lesson, because otherwise I would flunk the 4 hour review. Leeches are something I probably should review but never do.

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Hi and welcome, Hidekiz. I use the Self-Study Quiz add-on in between reviews. You can set it to just your Apprentice Items (or All Learned Items or All Burned Items or All Resurrected Items, whatever those are–I’m only Level 11, so haven’t seen those yet). It can feed you Japanese to English, English to Japanese, an Audio-only quiz, or all three of these things. I like it a lot and I’ll let others debate whether or not I’m messing with the SRS. I just know I enjoy it and I use it often. Since using it, my times spent on a level went from 12-13 days down to about 9-10 days. Cheers and good luck! Best, Jerry

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@Hidekiz anki is spells with an i not a y. Could you correct the typo in the title please? I usually don’t bother about typos but a typo in the title makes the threads hard to find by people who use the search function. You are asking a valid question and others may benefit from the answer. It would be a shame they would miss your thread because the forum search engine can’t work around a typo.

If you don’t know how to correct a title I can do it for you but I won’t unless you give me permission to do so.

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This might be a slight tangent to the topic at hand, but personally, I found that learning vocabulary written in kana through a textbook system was very helpful. The textbook I picked also taught grammar and let me practice it all with writing and speaking exercises. I started WaniKani on the first day of my Japanese learning journey, and I’ve been learning for about three months in total now.

In the first few stages of WaniKani I found myself frustrated that I could not remember the readings of the kanji, or differentiate it from the vocabulary words. After learning about 1,000 words in kana (with the ability to recognize a handful of them in kanji form too) I came back to WaniKani. Now when I come across a kanji reading I go “Oh, that’s like this word that I know,” thus, the reading sticks much easier. In my case, more is more. The more I use a word, the more I’ll remember it. This spaced repetition system is fine and all, but I don’t use it as my primary source for vocabulary. For me, WaniKani’s best feature is the way each new kanji builds upon the previous ones and the radicals, so I mainly use it for review and to help me organize the things I know.

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@Mods See the post I am replying to. I have requested a typo in the title to be fixed and nothing happened. Could you get the typo fixed please?

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If you do both anki and WK at the same time, it might get a bit overwhelming. Well, mostly if you are trying to level up quickly here. But it is possible. As of now, I’ve stopped adding new words into my anki deck because I’m doing the fast levels on WK and, well, schoolwork… It’s a little too much.
If you use anki, I’d like to suggest that you make your own deck. Avoid those 2k, 5k, 10k core decks. I think them boring and sometimes inefficient. By making your own deck, you will learn words that interest you, as well as in proper context. Don’t worry, they’ll rack up handsomely. If you’re starting out, you might find like 400 or 500 words you don’t know in just one anime episode.
I must say, I did wait a little before diving. Many WK words show up in native material, but not enough.
Good luck! Remember that doing anki reviews is faster than WK! Which means you may learn at a faster rate. Also, I know anki means “memorize” but use it as a tool, alright? It will help you learn and familiarize yourself with words, but don’t overdo it! What’s really important is immersion!

What I started doing today was creating a deck (Kitsun, not anki, but same difference) with a card for every item I fail in a review. I’m hoping it will stop these things coming back round and leeching me, hehe.

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It looks like another user has already fixed it, but thanks for tagging us! We’ll get to it next time!

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When you get to level 55, you will learn “this” … https://www.wanikani.com/kanji/之

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me reading that:

I’ve seen this before. hmm
*clicks* link これ
Ohhhh it’s zhī, funny that they use the same character for これ, given that they both mean this.
wait a minute!

I’m feeling a little bit stupid right now, if I’m honest

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