There’s only two right now, but essentially yes. The real fun starts when the devs actually implement new systems, but for now this is mostly a bunch of plumbing to make it all possible in the future.
Ah right, I forgot the fast levels are just where the initially unlocked kanji are enough to get you through to the next level.
It sounds like each item will have a set SRS within the app (not per user), so I don’t think that would work.
Yes, I saw that, but I think it’s possible for items to first have one SRS (during the placement test phase) and then have their set SRS during the “normal” phase.
So the only user setting would be whether they are having a placement test or not. (Or what level you are currently testing on)
You wouldn’t map all names for all SRS systems. Or you’d create new names. I foresee yet another userscript in my future wherein that userscript allows the user to map custom names to stage numbers for the various different systems wanikani produces.
From a cognitive perspective I think the names are really useful. I’d hate to see them go away in favor of generic numbering.
What if we like the current timings exactly as they are? I would hate for someone to shorten a radical timing for example. I like reviewing things more often than not.
If you think an item got burned too fast for you, you have options. You can resurrect them for a second go around the block, you can use something like the self-study quiz userscript, or you can use an Anki deck, …
Yeah, but I use WaniKani because I don’t want to use scripts or an AnkiDeck (I use Anki enough already). I’m just hoping that if changes do come to SRS stages they give users the option.
Don’t shoot the messenger, but I’m afraid you’re in for a bit of a disappointment. It looks like no such option will be forthcoming.
Of course not! That would be disappointing, but I wont stress until it really happens
I prefer to use plain vanilla WaniKani (no add-ons) and like the fact that all the reviews are consistent. To me if I really know something then the extra few reviews I might get until its burned would only take a few seconds and with the way the stages are now I make sure I don’t burn one too soon. Just my opinions, I take things really slow compared to a lot of people though.
This sounds intriguing. My initial reaction was that I’d miss the classic names, but seeing some of the conversation in the thread does bring out the possibilities a bit. I could definitely see the case for shortened SRS on radicals…
Side cards is an interesting question too, though I think the thing I’d most like in that direction is just better indication of how common each vocab word is. I don’t mind doing regular SRS intervals on uncommon vocab, but it’d be nice to know just how much I need to care about seeing a word out in the wild. I know WK isn’t really built around vocab acquisition, but something would be nice.
Aren’t the names a distinctive feature of WK? It is a feature that keeps me motivated to push myself in my learning process.
I recently reset my level from 60, after being away from WK for a couple of years.
Early on I relied a lot on radicals for memorization, and in a way it was eye opening to study kanji like that.
I did find them to be less important as I made progress and got more used to reading and memorizing kanji, though. Also it can be frustrating to have reviews coming up months later and failing them for not remembering that one radical is called “mohawk”. As long as you remember the kanji they’re a part of, their job is done and they should be able to retire in peace.
So I’d be okay with radicals being burned more quickly.
Some sort of placement test also sound like a good idea to me. I only reset all the way because I didn’t know where to start after being away for so long, and I sort of have no idea how much I forgot. A test would be perfect.
After years, I still don’t know what it means when I get something right and it says “Enlightened” or “Master.” It took a long time to realize Master was better than Guru. If they were called 1,2,3,4, then I’d just know that one more right after 4 to burn or that 3 was pretty far along, but a few more were needed.
Honestly, I just ignore everything after Apprentice.
I have a BunPro subscription and that platform utilizes numbers instead of specific names and I am ambivalent about it. Yes, it does become easier to compare because of the quantitative nature, however, I greatly prefer WK’s terms compared to mere numbers. Not only is it unique, it is also memorable and is a distinct way of gauging your progress, rather than utilizing numbers to characterize your numbers.
But I understand that it all boils down to personal taste I guess…
I may be dense, or my brain may just be soft from a couple hundred reviews on Wanikani and bunch more on Bun Pro, but what does all this mean in simple terms?
Does it mean the names go, the steps increase, but they won’t be the same for all lessons? Is that right?
Ughh, the disposal of the WaniKani SRS stage names is going to be hard to adjust to! I’ll admit that at the beginning of using WaniKani, I didn’t really get them, but after reading up on the forums, I came to realize how you can look at the number of your apprentice and guru items to pace yourself and avoid burnout.
I know this is just an example, but if there’s really going to be 9 stages, it’s going to be hard to keep track of progression. The current 5 stages are few enough that they’re easy to wrap your mind around, and the names give the stages more character and memorability, even if it takes a bit of time to become accustomed to them. It’s also nice to watch the numbers go up along the path between stages. At least the burned stage is here to stay.
Currently there are 10 stages. Lesson, apprentice 1, apprentice 2, apprentice 3, apprentice 4, guru 1, guru 2, master, enlightened, and burned. So the indication is that it wouldn’t change, at least initially
Oh, I knew there were multiple apprentice stages, but not about the guru ones. The point I was making, though, is that being notified about each level-up of what is now grouped together in apprentice and guru stages would be a bit overwhelming. I don’t really need to know about the level-ups within those groups, especially since I’ve been using those groups to pace myself (I’d probably have to add up the items in the first 4 levels to see if they added up to 100, which would be a pain). And having as many as ten stages to level up through could be pretty discouraging visually too, even if function-wise that’s the way it currently is.