New Recent Mistakes Dashboard Component

I really like the way mistakes are ordered, thanks!

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Well, there it is. I fully expected the “replacement” to be worse than the summary page and at least in that regard the team fulfilled my expectations…
This does not cover the full functionality that the summary pages once had. At least I can target my mistakes a bit better again, but the percentages were very important to me. Plus an overview over all the items that I did in a session
I like the option to repeat the lessons on the items. That doesn´t save it from being worse but it´s something, I guess…
My last hope is the fact that because of the way this is worded, this might not actually be the replacement, since this post almost advertises it as a “new feature”. It would be really nice if someone could confirm or deny if that is the case

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That one is bugged now thanks to this addition

It’s not tho, literally just fixed it.

Doesn’t work for me. I had actually found a combination of settings with the old one to make it look sort of decent, but after updating, it doesn’t even let me change the settings. It’s just stuck there.

Appreciate the effort to adjust quickly though

Why a 24-hour cutoff? What about items which are above Guru and their reviews will happen less often than every 24 hours? That sounds like an arbitrary cutoff dictated by backend limitations.

I feel like the FAQ point covers this very well, and I agree with their point that a the cut-off is useful to encourage you to review your mistakes as soon as possible, which should be the goal.

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Could you make a post about this in the thread? It works perfectly fine for me right now. Also make sure that it’s actually up to date (v0.8.0, should be visible at the top of the script)

I do understand the motivation covered in the FAQ, but I don’t think this is going to work for items which are at higher stages. One reviews the material, but since the next review comes days/weeks away, there is still every likelihood for the item to be forgotten and if one wants to review the failed item after 24 hours (for instance, again), the Recent Mistakes dashboard won’t cover that anymore.

To give a little more constructive feedback, ideally the Mistakes dashboard would retain the items we failed until they are answered correctly in a review.

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It’s better than the extra study quiz because you can see them all at a glance. I don’t need to quiz myself on the meanings and readings of all of them, so I’m usually reluctant to start a quiz. But seeing a list and being able to go over the meaning and readings in my mind is better. Then I can focus on the ones I know are a problem (and I can easily tell by looking at them whether I missed them because they’re new items, or if I keep missing them over and over).

My guess is that this is replacement for session summary we’ve been promised, but that Wanikani will never confirm that or say anything more about it.

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Yeah I agree that moving it to it’s own panel so that you can actually see the items is a better implementation. That’s really the only thing that makes it SLIGHTLY closer to the summary page. If this is in fact the fabled “solution” they’ve been working on since the big update then I’ll be pretty gob smacked (though I know I shouldn’t be). This is a nice change but all it actually amounts to is a re-jigging and a facelift for a feature we already had. I hope the dominant narrative doesn’t become “the summary page is back” and they see fit to just move on - regardless of their intentions with this update.

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Why not also add the correct items and percentages? That would make it a lot closer to the summary page.

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Other than the initial review after getting it wrong, why do you need to review a high-level SRS item again before the next review?

If the answer is that you’ve forgotten it, shouldn’t that be reflected in the item getting downgraded during the next real Wanikani review, so that you can review it more often?

Is artificial reviewing to bridge the gap really beneficial for the learning process?

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I’m looking forward to digging in and checking this out, but before that I have a suggestion about where this lives on the dashboard. There’s something really overwhelming (at least for me), in logging in and immediately seeing all of your lessons, reviews, and every mistake you made in the last 24 hours in one burst. I felt kind of discouraged and wanted to immediately close the tab. Maybe have the option to move recent mistakes below “level progress” or something like that? (Level progress is always encouraging to me, because I can see how far I’ve gotten both within the level and the overall level number, which I’m proud of.)

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It doesn’t necessarily have to be a full review of the item. Just seeing the item listed would be enough.

If it were entirely up to me, I would just reset an item which is completely forgotten down to Apprentice. If something doesn’t stick for several months and only gets downgraded to weeks, I might forget it again.

That depends. Reviewing an item too often obviously isn’t. However, not knowing what one got wrong 1-2 days ago isn’t either.

This is partially a question of design. The 24-hour cutoff is arbitrary. Letting the item stay until the next review would give people a choice. They don’t have to review the item if they don’t want to. They can if they want to.

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It would be great if you could just customize the timeframe of your recent mistakes by yourself. 24hrs, 48hrs, a week, until the next review…
But WaniKani avoids customizability like it´s the plague, how dare the users decide over anything in their (expensive) study curriculum? :roll_eyes:

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I like that. I always try to go through the ones I struggle with and recall them on my own, now I have an easier way to do it. Thanks!

Personally, I like the fact that WK keeps customization to a minimum, because when I tried Anki, I was overwhelmed by the amount of settings and never got started properly due to being too worried about not having the optimal settings.

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But that doesn´t need to be an issue. WaniKani can still keep the way things are now as the default and then put options to customize stuff into the settings. Plenty of apps have customization and they usually have a working default that you can stick with if stuff like that is overwhelming you.
You can at least customize lesson and review ordering in minor ways, but I doubt you have been sweating what the best of those would be for you, cause you either never went to look at those options or just decided that the current way was already working.

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Here I agree with @Honumael on Anki. The app has way too many options and variables, and the defaults are far from ideal to work with. It took me ages and 1 failed deck I had to reset entirely to have a working review schedule. Here’s where WK wins.

However, not everything in WaniKani has to be fixed at a value of X. It doesn’t have to be 24 hours. Same with review timings - these could be calculated dynamically (with little to no effort) instead of being hardcoded. The problem with fixing things at a value of X is that if part of that is defined deep in the backend, it would be hard to make it dynamic later, and user will be asking for changes like that.

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Anki has bad UI, period. It should not be used to dismiss customization as a whole. It’s an Anki issue, not a customization issue. Anki would not improve if they just removed the various config toggles (which most people don’t even understand what they do, because of the aforementioned bad UI).

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