My first WK Community Post (i’am anxious af)

Yes, somehow, with the power of procrastination and self-loathing, I managed to stall participating in this forum for almost exactly 3 years. So here it is, a single step.

Self-introduction and WK Journy

Hey WK Community, I’m a 22-year-old electrical engineering student from Switzerland. All my school career, I struggled with languages. Be it my native language German, French which we started learning from 3rd grade on, even Englisch which I’m now fairly fluent in, I always had just barely passing grades. At around 19 I got hit like a truck by the classical teeny identity crisis. I was about to finish my last semester of the Technical High School I was attending, about to break free from the shackles of public education after 15 years, and had just quit football/soccer, my hobby of also 15 years.

In said High School I had some non-self-identifying weeb friends through which I came into contact with Japanese pop culture. I read comics like Lucky Luke, Die Schlümpfe, Dagobert Duck and many more all my childhood. So naturally my beginnings were reading manga. Specifically Berserk and Flowers of Evil as I remember. Followed by listening to a ton of Japanese music by artists like Lamp, Sundae May Club and MIREI. This concludes the incubation period of my Japanese journey. Then as soon as summer break hit, I signed up to WaniKani without any prior knowledge other than hiragana, which I started to learn during class in the last semester of high school.

At first, progress was slow and unsteady, reflecting my life as a temporary worker at that time. That was followed by 18 weeks of mandatory military service. Which made doing WK reviews not totally impossible at the beginning, but as time went on, I didn’t have the fortitude to keep up. After the military, it was back to temporary work for me, again struggling with the same issues of instability and a serious case of working-shit-jobs-slump. But when University came around, I was off to the races. Slowing down only during the turbulent exam periods. I started to diversify my Japanese learning portfolio. I started using Bunpro, from which I just now finished the N2 deck, and even joined an online JLPT course for N5 through N3 to practice reading and listening comprehension as well as writing sentences with the newly acquired grammar structures.

But around WK level 35 things turned sour for me. I increasingly got upset with the inexact “Radical Combination” descriptions and vague mnemonics. I started to look for alternatives in these regards and found Heisig’s Remembering the Kanji. Because its drawback of not being beginner-friendly didn’t apply to me anymore, I could now fully profit from its approach of teaching and encouraging you to write your own mnemonics. Which, after around 600 Kanji, you have to do. I really enjoyed this part. This was the last railroad switch I needed to be on track for my journey to Level 60. Being able to come up with mnemonics in seconds sped up my lessons and early acquisition so much. Furthermore, knowing stroke order gives a much deeper understanding of the radicals and how they come together. Making deciphering them require way less redundancy, unlocking reading speed and enabling me to read other fonts. With this in the bag, I steadily and unspectacularly cruised through the higher levels straight through Level 60.


The unsung hero of resources
There is an ocean of great and handy Japanese learning resources out there. But for me there is one specifically that I think is nowhere near popular enough: kakimashou.com. And that not even for its advertised features of writing kana and kanji’s. For me the highlight is its “Character Breakdown’s”. Such detail and accuracy, putting popular online dictionaries like Jisho to shame. It features, besides its flawlessly working writing tool, a very comprehensive “Common Words” list, which is sorted by reading. Which is insanely handy when kanjis have many on- and/or kun-readings, because it gives an Englisch translation per reading, not just per kanji.
So yeah, if you’re sick of the pesty omg-生-has-one-bajillion-readings-japanes-is-so-random-and-complicated clickbait content, here is something actually helpful: Kakimashou - Common Words Containing 生


Settling My Score with WK
I love WaniKani. It’s super beginner-friendly. Its SRS works unobtrusively smooth. It gives the structure enabling the consistency every kanji learner needs. For me, its issues lie with its actually most advertised part: the radicals and mnemonics. I could whine for hours about how some of the radicals are learned after the equivalent kanji were already mastered, or how some of the kanjis used as basis for others don’t have an equivalent radical at all, or I could bitch over the nightmare-inducing fact that WK treats 夂 and 攵 as the same radical (Ahh! aAhaH!!! The agony). But I know this is the undiagnosed ASD/OCD cocktail in me talking, so I’m going to try and sway focus on something less detail-oriented:
Why does WaniKani not encourage the creation of your own mnemonics !?!?
I know there are these two boxes where u can take notes in, but it’s not like they are named, “Pls write your mnemonic here.” Is that a talking point here on the forum? Because in my experience, learning how to make your own radicals takes you from:
→ “oh no, so many strokes”
→ to “nice, so much context”
→ to “漢字と我は一体なり“ real quick.
(Maybe got a bit ahead of myself on step three but u get the gist.)


Ps:
So yeah, thanks for your attention dear reader. That was it, the first step. If you have any questions whatsoever — about me, about Switzerland, its languages, its education, about any other part of the text, and of course if u have an opinion of any kind about how WaniKani is/is not encouraging the creation of your own mnemonics — please ask/post about it. Initiating any form of social interactions is a big obstacle for me, so it really would help me take some more steps.

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Hello and welcome, and congrats on level 60!

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Congrats on level 60 !!!

What was military service like in Switzerland??

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Congrats on your language learning journey and for reaching out to connect. You say it’s hard for you but you are eloquent, interesting, mysterious (just shows up at level 60?!), and brought a good resource (書きましょう!). Definitely bang-up job saying hi! Good luck as you continue your studies. What was the online JLPT course you joined, if you don’t mind my asking?

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this was great and kakimashou.com looks awesome, thanks!

you’re not alone re: the mnemonics. I stopped even trying to read them after about level 5. As a learning tool mnemonics are just so much better if they’re personal, I only got a into a rhythm with WK once I started figuring out how to make my own.

And the radicals… it’s definitely better now than it was when WK first came out, but…

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Congratulations!

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Congratulations on reaching Level 60. And thanks for the tip. I’ll have a look later

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Welcome to the community ! Congrats for 60 !
I’m a jisho fan for now soooo you definitely hooked my interest with kakimashou :smiley: !

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As someone who used to struggle a ton with social anxiety (and sometimes still do!), I think you’ve done a brave first step. Well done! :sparkles:

I remember when I first started posting (and a long time after), I’d spend so much time figuring out what to write back to people when someone replied to me (stressful :eyes: :sweat_droplets: ). Please rest assured you don’t have to reply to everyone here. It might be different what people think and of course depends on the comment, but at least in my opinion I think it’s okay in most cases to just like someone’s post as a token of appreciation without necessarily having to reply back. Tho it might be a bit different when you’re requesting questions, hehe :P

Oh, and congrats on lvl 60! :crabigator: Also wanted to say you’re good at writing :durtle_noice:

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I’m still at the stage of: How many kanji for “I” do I have to learn?

Gratz on level 60. A fine achievement.

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Military service in Switzerland is mandatory for all males and works like this. The year you turn 18, you have to attend an info event where an officer hypes up how cool the military is and explains the different branches and some general details. Most importantly, you set your recruitment date there. It’s recommended to do this early to have more choices later on.

Recruitment lasts 2 to 3 days, during which you stay in a recruitment center and get your first real taste of military life. You go through mental and physical tests, sports evaluations, and get more info to help figure out which role suits you. If you’re declared fit for service, you’ll have a one-on-one talk with an officer who has full authority over where you end up—so hope they’re in a good mood.

There are two main models for service. The standard one, called the WK model, starts with 18 weeks of basic and role-specific training. After that, you do 19 days of refresher courses each year for six years. Some roles offer a continuous model where you can do all 245 days in one go. If you get picked to become a sergeant, though, you’ll have to do 440 days of service.

As for my personal experience, I was an air defense cannoneer. That meant I operated an Oerlikon 35-mm-Zwillingskanone—and yeah, I can’t help but pronounce that with a Nazi accent.


But the training went far beyond just using the cannon or setting up positions. We had a lot of training with the SIG 550, the standard Swiss army assault rifle. We trained on both 30m and 300m ranges, did drills for patrols and guarding locations, tactical marches with different scenarios, and even got to do combat shooting. That combat shooting took place on a 600-meter-long course with fake buildings, trenches, and some strategic terrain. We fired live rounds over the heads of the other squads while advancing onto the different targets. It was pretty wild, considering, at this point most people held a gun for the first time 6 weaks ago.

Of course, every role has its own experience, but for me, I was honestly happy with how it turned out. The military has such an outlandish social structure that you really need to live through it to understand. You’d be surprised how quickly, seeing civilians, people living a non-military life, can start to weird you out.

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It’s Chika Sensei’s Japanese Academy, hosted on Teachable:

She has a variety of different courses, even speaking practice and such. I just used her all-in-one JLPT bundles. She gives you personalized feedback on everything you hand in, which is pretty cool. But recently, her courses seem to be getting popular. She had to limit the sign-up period to 5 days each month.

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Yeah, I use Jisho too. it’s handy for a lot of things. But when it comes to learning and really understanding, like getting a quick insight when encountering new kanji, Kakimashou leaves every other resource I’ve found so far in the dust.

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Well well well, buddy… time to get on that write-your-own-mnemonic juice. If you have a specific kanji or group of kanji where you need some extra inspiration, I’m happy to help out.

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You are the second person I’ve met here who first posted after reaching level 60! trunky_rolling
I forgot who the first one was though :sweat_smile:

Interestingly enough, when I joined WK, I also planned not to post anything until I reach level 60, but I gave in very soon trunky_rolling

Anyway, welcome to this community – I really hope you’d like it here and stay with us! love2

In any case, best of luck with your studies! wricat

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Well… can’t break a plan if you never had one, nya~?
Pawleased to make your acquaintance.
Your repawtation precedes you. :cat_face:

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Congratulations on reaching 60! Thanks for sharing :blush:

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Yay. Big congrats. I love it when people so young learning one or more foreign language. I know it seems very normal these days, but other than learning English, learning other foreign languages takes more courage and more dedication IMO.
(a comment from a 50 yo. haha)

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Congratulations on reaching level 60. I am also plowing through WK from Switzerland. I am on the other side of the Röstigraben, tho.

I am surprisingly ok with the WK mnemonics. I only need to use them for the first few SRS stages and after a while the readings/meaning just stick. I do think I would prefer if they used more contextualized or historical based information when explaining new kanji tho, but maybe that’s just because I am a huge nerd. What also annoys me is that sometimes radical breakdowns are just visual and do not respect stroke number/order and this, to me, is very offensive lol. Not only it doesn’t help, it straight up messes your understanding of the kanji, specially if you are also interested in learning how to write them/break them down, as you said.

What are your plans for your japanese learning journey now that you have reached lvl 60?

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Thank you! Likewise, I’m always impressed by the older generations who keep pushing through life’s plot twists and manage to reinvent themselves. Best of luck!

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