I was in the same boat as you the first time I levelled up. I got through my radicals, and moved onto kanji, which made sense. Then I finished my kanji, did my reviews, and then expected to move onto vocab, but while I did, the dashboard changed and it confused me! I was left wondering where I was supposed to go - was it supposed to work on vocab? Move onto the radicals and kanji for level 2? I went and looked back into the detail of how Wanikani works, especially using the link that @seanblue gave you. Then it made more sense.
I can see where youâre coming from, in that it probably would be nice to have a visual representation of the vocab youâre currently learning, but agree with the other comments youâve had here. But looking at just how much vocab is in some of the levels, it really would be so cluttered on the dashboard that it probably wouldnât be that helpful.
hahaha. Bad wording on my part. I should have asked the question more carefully. Apologies to Haios.
Yes, this and only this. I donât want to see âthousandsâ of vocab words at the same time. Just like the radicals and the kanji, to have little progress bars, and the level dashboard doesnât change to the next level until you fill them up. It felt weird to me to have the level view moved when I was still being introduced to new vocabulary items for the first time.
I donât expect it to happen though and I recognize that almost everyone on WK is more experienced with it than I am and you have all worked out what seems to work the best for the greatest number of people. I still think itâs a great system, and I found a good work around. Also, Iâm sure Iâll get more used to it as I go.
One idea that has come up is requiring vocab to get to Guru for leveling up as well, but more as a safeguard against abuse. Right now to pass Level X you need to Guru 90% of the kanji from Level X. The suggestion would be that to pass Level X you need to Guru 90% of the kanji from Level Xand 90% of the vocab from Level X-1. This way, everyone would have to do their vocab, even if on a slight delay.
It still wouldnât fix the dashboard concern unless they also restructured the system a bit more.
My advice - donât skip vocab. Vocab is the language, kanjis are the alphabet (a bit lengthy of course).
My recent example: vocab ćźżéĄ. Two kanjis are âlogdeâ and âtopicâ. Vocabâs meaning is âhomeworkâ. No deduction from kanjis meanings is possible (imho), you just need to know the vocab itself.
About leveling up strategies, I use couple of scripts to rearrange vanilla WK more to my liking (Reorder Ultime 2 and Lesson Filter). But I have strict self-imposed rule that I finish pre-previous level vocab before working on current level.
For example I just leveled up to L15 and new radical and kanjis are tempting, but I wont touch any of them until I finish all remaining vocab lessons for L13. After this Iâll eat all radicals in one gulp (radicals part becomes much smaller after L10), and proceed with daily mix of L15 kanjis and L14 vocab. Limiting number of daily lessons to the amount I can review later (8-12 per day). Level up thing is a pure gamification. I try to measure my success by the percent of total lessons completed, right now Iâm at 2170 lessons done with 6710 remaining (easy to see with âDashboard locked countâ script and absolutely wonderful âHeatmapâ).
I know ifât s bit of an off-topic answer to your question. Just note that the accumulative load of reviews may become over-bearing very soon. WK does not feel slow after L5 if youâre new to Japanese.
Sounds like a good idea. That would at least keep your dashboard on the current level long enough to be introduced to the vocab before having the dashboard changed to the next level. Maybe Iâl stumble across a script that allow for this at some point. Iâm not really capable of creating it myself.
The vocab existing to reenforce the kanji doesnât mean there wonât be plenty of it, but it means that the chosen words may be uncommon, overly formal, or hardly ever written in kanji. It also means that common words or hiragana / katakana-only words may not be here at all, leading to gaps in vocab knowledge if not backed up by another source.
Thatâs also why leveling up is based on guruâing kanji and not vocab. Since I generally front-load my vocab studies over kanji, I tend to guru most vocab first, which leaves me with more space for picking up vocab on the next level as well. Itâs a slower method, but has helped me push higher volumes of lessons on level-up. For new users though, I would just go with vanilla WK and follow it until you get a better feel of how it works.
Your level is really just a number, so I wouldnât worry about it. WK will still give you all the vocab lessons from the previous level before moving on to new radicals/kanji so you arenât missing anything by leveling up.
This. Surprised that itâs only mentioned once, as the OPâs question is exactly the reason I installed this script. At level 2/3 I had no idea how many vocab lessons were left before the new radicals would show up (unless youâre running scripts you canât tell this from the lessons buttons either), which felt really weird. You were basically staring at a non-moving no-progress panel for 3 days.
Same. I started out trying to blast through levels and I realized that I wasnât really learning the Kanji very well. I was overtaxing my brain and trying to remember too much, too fast. Along with WaniKani, I am also using KameSame for production, BunPro for grammar, and trying to speak to my Japanese family that I live with here in Japan, admittedly with very limited and broken Japanese. Iâve gone from the 8-day level-up to about 12-14 days now, is it about the same for you? I started working full-time and I think itâs going to increase to 14-16 days per level, which is fine with me since I am actually learning, I can read a lot of signs and the news tickers on TV and get an idea of whatâs happening, etc. This way just feels like Iâm learning more.
not at all, since I donât live in Japan, have no one in real life to speak Japanese with, also work full time, while learning Japanese as a hobby and outlet Slowed down to 20 days per level due to working overtime recently. But as long as Iâm making progress, Iâm happy.
I really wish it worked this way by default⊠I never understood why vocab doesnât count towards leveling up - it contains lots of other readings and extra meanings!
I really dislike being considered already on a new level when I havenât finished at least the lessons from the previous one⊠I like the Tsurukame pie charts for visualizing the number of radicals/kanji/vocab my current level has (that could be a nice solution for the official WK dashboard), but of course they change to the new level when we level upâŠ
The script itself is currently not actively being updated, and as such requires a manual update to function alongside the dashboard updates from March. This holds for some other scripts as well, but you can usually find manual fixes for any such issues in the specific threads of the scripts.
In this case here, which granted, is slightly buried in 100 other posts.
So, I just realized that my Dashboard no longer shows the regular progress of the radicals and kanji. Is this script supposed to trade that for the level bars?
I really want both things, not one or the otherâŠ
Yes, Dashboard Level Progress Detail only displays bars and hides the individual items.
There are other scripts you can try. From what youâre saying, Iâm guessing
might be the best fit. Thereâs also
but that one doesnât display previous-level items I think. Go ahead and see what fits your needs best!