Japanese in one year?! - Not your usual study log

haven’t seen this site before, looks more interesting to me than NHK easy so thanks for the rec!

@drdru さん is making it and has native speaker to check it wricat

Btw I forgot to ask: How difficult is the grammar there? As you might know, my grammar knowledge is limited to N4 at the moment :sweat_smile:

I’d translate this as something along the lines of “It’s important that people that are close to them as well as others put themselves into their position and listen attentively to what they have to say.”

By chance did you mean や instead of い here?

It’s the listing particle や (JLPT N5) | Bunpro

Yeah, after I had made the list, I saw that つらい was just one word, and I forgot to change the list :sweat_smile: Yes, I meant や, which I luckily knew what it meant. Still thanks a lot! :smiley:

Congrats on reading your first NHK article :confetti_ball:

If you like fantasy/RPG comics, I recommend the クリスタルハンターズ series :blush:

It‘s made by japanese teachers to make learning japanese fun and easy!
The first volume is very easy, but it gets harder later
The first volume costs around 3$ on ebook format

Thanks a lot! It was quite a challenge, but very fun :smiley:

I’ll definitely have a look at it, it looks very intersting, thanks for the recommendation!

I don’t believe that there’s such a thing as “very easy” for me right now when it comes to reading Japanese :wink:

Since you managed to translate a NHK article, I believe クリスタルハンターズ1 will be a piece of cake to you!

I managed to read the first volume a few month ago when I only knew half of N5 grammar points
It struggled to finish it, but I reread it recently and it was way easier for me

If I were in your shoes, I would read it when I need a break from the complicated grammar stuff :smiley:

Graaawwwwhgggghhhh
It’s so painfulね
When I was at that stage, it would take me about an hour to analyze 3 sentences. NHK “easy” :face_holding_back_tears: was too much for me!

I bashed through a lot of sentences over the years.

NeoArcturus is :muscle: :nerd_face: じょうず

Right???
The “easy” part destroyed my self confidence :joy:

NeoArcturusさんは上手ですね。

Alright, let’s try another article from NHK easy, this time the one that @trunklayer recommended me :slight_smile:

Original Text

「ブロッコリーは日本の人たちの生活に大切な野菜」

国は、日本の人たちがよく食べていて、生活に特に大切な野菜を「指定野菜」にしています。今はキャベツ、だいこん、トマト、なす、ねぎ、たまねぎなど14の野菜があります。

2026年からブロッコリーが新しく指定野菜になります。日本では人口が少なくなって、市場に出る野菜の量が少なくなっています。しかし、ブロッコリーは最近の10年で30%ぐらい増えました。栄養が多いことなどが、よく食べるようになった理由です。

ブロッコリーは北海道や愛知県、埼玉県などでたくさん作っています。指定野菜の値段が下がったときは、たくさん作っている農家が仕事を続けることができるように、国がお金を出します。

指定野菜が増えるのは、1974年のばれいしょ(じゃがいも)のあと、久しぶりです。

Bad Translation attempt

「ブロッコリーは日本の人たちの生活に大切な野菜」

The heading appears to be pretty easy to translate this time (famous last words). I’d say it’s something like

“Broccoli is an important vegetable in the life of Japanese people”

Btw if you read this, is たち some sort of pluralizer?


国は、日本の人たちがよく食べていて、生活に特に大切な野菜を「指定野菜」にしています。

I’d say the first part is “In the country”. The second one might be “Japanese people eat well and…”. For the third, I think something like “the “Vegetable Assignment” (perhaps, this is the name of some sort of organization?) decides an especially important vegetable in the life.”

So, I’d go with something like this:

“In the country, the Japanese people eat well and the “Vegetable Assignment” decides on an especially important vegetable in life.”

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今はキャベツ、だいこん、トマト、なす、ねぎ、たまねぎなど14の野菜があります。

This appears to me like a list of things, with the など indicating that this list is not complete. The things that are being listed are cabbage, daikon, tomatoes, eggplants, spring onions and (normal) onions. I’d say perhaps this could translate as something like this:

“Now, there are cabbage, daikons, tomatoes, eggplants, spring onions, onions 14 more vegetables.”

I’m quite unsure about the “14 more vegetables”, but it confuses me a bit that the 14 and 野菜 are linked with a の :sweat_smile:


2026年からブロッコリーが新しく指定野菜になります。

Ah, a short and sweet sentence (famous last words)! Let’s see…

“From 2026 on, broccoli will become the new chosen vegetable.”

Sounds a bit weird, but I think I understand the meaning haha, it’s probably kinda like “vegetable of the year” or similar.


日本では人口が少なくなって、市場に出る野菜の量が少なくなっています。

I’d say the first part is something along the lines of “In Japan, the population is lessening and…”, and the second half appears to have a similar meaning, that something lessens. The thing that is lessesing appears to be the amount of vegetables, but I’m not sure what the 出る is doing in the middle of the sentence :thinking: Perhaps the second part is supposed to mean something like “the amount of vegetables leaving the markets is becoming less”? I guess I’ll go with that…

So, there the complete sentence:

“In Japan, the population is lessening and the amount of vegetables leaving the markets is becoming less.”

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しかし、ブロッコリーは最近の10年で30%ぐらい増えました。

“However, broccoli has increased in the past ten years by about 30%.”

I suppose the amount of broccoli that left the shop has increased?


栄養が多いことなどが、よく食べるようになった理由です。

I think here, the first and second part are strongly linked together. Something like

“The reason is that nutrition and many things the like became eating well.”

The meaning would be that the quality of the meals that the Japanese eat became good, I guess? :sweat_smile:


ブロッコリーは北海道や愛知県、埼玉県などでたくさん作っています。

“A lot of broccoli, hokkaido and things the like are being produced in the Aichi prefecture, in the Saitama prefecture and so on.”


指定野菜の値段が下がったときは、たくさん作っている農家が仕事を続けることができるように、国がお金を出します。

This is by far the longest sentence, so let’s take a deep and good look at it. The first part, I would translate it as something like “While the price of the chosen vegetable dropped, …”. The next part could be something like “many farmers that are producing continue the work in a way so that they are able to…”, and the last one is probably something like “to get money out of their region”. So, this would be something like this:

“While the price of the chosen vegetable dropped, many farmers that are producing continue the work in a way so that they are able to get money out of their region.”

While it might not be the best English, I think the meaning is pretty obvious :sweat_smile:


指定野菜が増えるのは、1974年のばれいしょ(じゃがいも)のあと、久しぶりです。

Last sentence!

Gee, what is that の doing there next to the は?

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean :sweat_smile: I guess I won’t make a direct translation for that, but I’ll try to describe what I think is the meaning: “It has been a while since the chosen vegetable has increased, which was when potatoes where the chosen vegetables in 1974.”


Aight, here is the complete text!

Broccoli is an important vegetable in the life of Japanese people

In the country, the Japanese people eat well and the “Vegetable Assignment” decides on an especially important vegetable in life. Now, there are cabbage, daikons, tomatoes, eggplants, spring onions, onions 14 more vegetables.

From 2026 on, broccoli will become the new chosen vegetable. In Japan, the population is lessening and the amount of vegetables leaving the markets is becoming less. However, broccoli has increased in the past ten years by about 30%. The reason is that nutrition and many things the like became eating well.

A lot of broccoli, hokkaido and things the like are being produced in the Aichi prefecture, in the Saitama prefecture and so on. While the price of the chosen vegetable dropped, many farmers that are producing continue the work in a way so that they are able to get money out of their region.

(Again, I’m not quite sure how I should translate the last sentence, so instead, here’s a description of what I think that it means:)

It has been a while since the chosen vegetable has increased, which was when potatoes where the chosen vegetables in 1974.

That was a bit easier than the one from yesterday, but still took me around 30 to 45 minutes :sweat_smile:

Just like yesterday, every feedback is highly appreciated :heart:

@Shannon-8 @_Ciel ありがとうございます!Thanks a lot of the nice words :heart: This is so encouraging :hugs: Although I have to add that I’m not 上手 yet, but I am working on it :wink:

そう同じですね
I started studying Japanese in April 2019, and I’ve been going pretty hard the whole time (so it will have been 5 years finished this April), and I’m only just now (with Trunklayer’s shining example) forcing myself to gag down an NHK “easy” News article (maybe I could strive for one a week, for now)…

I just have found it really really hard to stay in the “optimal for language acquisition, N+1 input” sweet spot. Literally everything “everyday Japanese” requires (even now) so many lookups!

Anyway, I enjoyed learning so much every day… Now I’m enjoying it all a bit more

Go hard or go home :joy:

I agree, these articles seem to be far from being “easy” :joy: If that is NHK “Easy”, I don’t think that I want to know how hard the normal ones are haha

I remember the days my studies consisted almost uniquely in reading HNK easy news as the best.

First time I read an article it was so hard. I could only read the first few sentences.
Later I was able to read one whole article. And then two. And then the five that were released each day but it was still not an easy task. And then I could read the five articles with almost no look up. And then I could read them without the furigana. And then I got bored because it had become too easy and also COVID happened and every single article was starting with the same sentence and was saying the same thing.

To me learning that way is the best. I wish there was more tools like this but I also understand why there aren’t (and that’s also one of the reason I’m creating some).

The Jisho on 出る includes Verbs like serving school lunches, so maybe this takes on more of a No. 9 meaning…

This りょう (りょう quantity, amount WK24) is always “amount”…

It has to somehow mean “broccoli’s share of the vegetable market”… But I feel like I’m working backwards to make it fit my interpretation :laughing:

I totally didn’t recognize 市場 (いちば market or しじょう for the “market” part of stock market) :sweat_smile:

SO I think it might be In Japan, the population is decreasing, and the amount of vegetables sold in the markets is decreasing. (Essentially what you said)

I’d love to say more, but I gotta go clear some reviews and get some WORK work done today. I got essentially none of my big tasks done all week!

I will try to give some feedback :slight_smile: you’re doing great so far!

よく can also mean “often”. 野菜 is modified by two things here: 日本の人たちがよく食べていて and 生活に特に大切な. Vegetables that Japanese people eat often and that are important to daily life.
「指定野菜」 is more like “Designated Vegetables”, it’s not a name of an organization. Usually the last part of such a compound shows you what it’s all about: here it’s about a special kind of vegetable, not an organization. (it takes a while to get an intuition when something is an organization etc., so I wouldn’t worry about it)

I would start this sentence from the back: など、14の野菜がある。 there are 14 vegetables (referring back to 指定野菜 - designated vegetables), including cabbage, daikon and so on. The listed vegetables here are just examples from the list of the 14 designated vegetables.
The の is the normal “connect number to noun” の.

New chosen vegetable makes it sound like there can only be one at a time, but the sentence before tells you that currently there are 14 指定野菜. So it’s more likely that broccoli will be added to that list in 2026.

出る is tricky because 市場に出る means “coming onto the market” (“auf den Markt kommen”). The key here is the particle に. The “leave” meaning usually uses を, like in 部屋を出る - to leave the room. に出る usually indicates appearance somewhere.

Again, よく here means “often”. This sentence is also referring back to the sentence before, so adding in a “broccoli” here would make it easier to understand:
“The high nutrition and other things are the reason broccoli is eaten more frequently.”

Hokkaido is also a prefecture :slight_smile: Also take a close look at the particles: Broccoli is separated by は from the list including 北海道や愛知県、埼玉県など. The list includes 3 prefectures that all produce broccoli.

I would not use “while” here. I think 下がったとき is more like - when the price of the designated vegetables drops
The original also includes the potential in a different position 仕事を続けることができる - to be able to continue their work
国がお金を出す: 国 doesn’t really mean region, but government. The government will pay money
“If the price of the designated vegetables drops, the government will pay money so that the farmers that are producing designated vegetables can continue to do so.”

Still, very well done for your second attempt! I think you have good intuition for many things/phrases, and reading and translating will only help strenghten that intuition further :slight_smile:

Yeah, I’d roughly translate it the same way

Yes, 達 or たち is a pluralizer.

I’d roughly translate it as

The country designates the vegetable which Japanese people eat often and which is especially important for their lives as “designated vegetable”.

I’d say

Currently, 14 vegetables, including cabbage, raddish, domatoes, eggplants, spring onions and onions have that title.

I’d roughly translate it as

Starting from 2026, broccoli will also have this title.

I’d roughly translated it the same way.

Same here…

I’d say

High nutrition is among the reasons why Japanese people eat it often.

よく menas not only well, but also often.

I’d say

A lot of broccoli is being produced in Hokkaido, Aichi and Saitama prefectures.

I’d say

Whenever the price of a vegetable designated as “chosen vegetable” drops, the country provides money to farmers who grow a lot of it, so that they could continue their work.

指定野菜が増えるのは、1974年のばれいしょ(じゃがいも)のあと、久しぶりです。

I’d say,

Last time the number of “chosen vegetables” increased was in 1974 when potatos were given that title.

@Myria @trunklayer @Shannon-8 Thanks a lot for going through the effort to read and correct everything that I wrote, I really appreciate it! cat_hugging

I think I’ll have to add よく also as “often” to my vocab hehe

I didn’t know that の also has this function, thanks for telling me! I guess it just indicates what the number is referring to and doesn’t really have a big impact on the translation?