I feel cursed

Hello,

I have huge problems to stick to routines. So I always learn till lvl 5-7 or something like that but never above ten :sob: I get distracted or whatever and end up pausing WK and my Crabinator goes back to hibernation till i finally arrive again and the circle starts again.
Are people having the same troubles ( I bet I’m not alone)? And how can I break this vicious cycle :smiley: pls help :smiley:

I’m currently back again out of hibernation and ready to star anew.. I tried to continue but I forgot a lot again :smiley: I feel weird about it

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Try to attach your WK study with something that happens at a certain hour.

I for example used to do my reviews while hearing news every day at 7:00 p.m.

It’s simple but works :smiley:

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When you say “hibernation”, do you mean vacation mode? If so, just never ever use it again. I think it’s a bad idea generally, but in your case you also clearly can’t trust yourself with it.

Building a habit can be hard especially if you’re not routine-oriented. I recommend not going too fast and keep the daily review count low in order to make it easier for you to stick with it. Then force yourself to at least do all reviews every day, even if you don’t do any lessons.

Is there something in particular that you would like to read in Japanese? If so try reading it and every time you encounter a kanji you don’t know, look it up on WaniKani to see when you’ll learn it. I remember that it helped a lot with motivation for me early on, I could tell myself “ok when I reach WK level 27 I will know this word, when I reach level 18 I’ll know that one, …” It gives you a concrete objective.

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Nothing to it but to do it. Just 5 or 10 minutes carved out every day for doing review is better than doing 0 minutes. Pick a time and stick to it. For me it’s 8AM, for 30 minutes every morning. Stop focusing on what level you’re on or your speed, just show up.

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I think hibernation is the weird thing WaniKani does when you don’t log in for a while so they can optimize data access for active users. It happens to me on the rare occasion I log onto WaniKani proper.

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Ty, I will definitely try this.
I don’t have a routine at all but I go to sleep and wake up every day so I might stick to doing my lessons in the morning i guess :slight_smile:

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It is happening automaticly - I just come back after I dunno two months or something and the crabmaster is already in hibernation lol

Ok, I think i already am very slow, but I will go slower maybe it helps :slight_smile:
I wanted to read Shirokuma Cafe ( recommended by the Community)

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I think that SRS systems like WaniKani fundamentally work very badly if the user isn’t able to maintain a daily routine of doing reviews. So what other non-WaniKani Japanese study are you doing? Maybe you’ll get more effect out of doubling down on that rather than doing yet another doomed run through WK levels 1 to 5.

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Hey, I tried “HeyJapan” and Duolingo ( didn’t fit that well ) and I bought “Minna no Nihongo” ( I repeat some chapters from time to time, but I feel too insecure to keep going). I always fear to teach myself stuff the wrong way^^

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One things that’s working for me is keeping a daily study log here - it’s helping maintain that motivation and habit. Don’t let the worry about teaching yourself the wrong way be an obstacle; there are plenty of wise people here (as well as louder ones like me, too!) who are always happy to lend some words of wisdom or answer questions, etc.

My two general suggestions, in order of importance:

  • Take some time to figure out why you are trying to learn the language, and prioritize it based on how important it is to you. If it’s something you’re doing because it’s interesting but not something you’ve got a burning passion for, that’s okay - and if that means taking breaks and having to restart, that’s fine too. But knowing why you want to do it (to read manga? Watch anime? Play games? Go to Japan and speak the language?) and how much it matters will help you figure out your plan, and reminding yourself of that is great motivation for the challenging days.
  • I would suggest that if you can just make it a habit to do 15-30 minutes every morning, that’s a solid start and something that could be easily maintained. If you can do more, wonderful! Obviously, the amount of time you have to spend is a function of your own life and what you’ve decided about the importance of the learning. Don’t measure yourself against others’ pace, or ability, or anything else, figure out what you want and a pace that works in your life and make your focus doing the best you can at maintaining that.

Just remember that whatever the reason you are here to learn, you’ve got a lot of people in your corner who are always willing to help. In the end, if you want to do it and you can dedicate some time to it daily (or as close to daily as possible), you’ll get there at some point. Just make each day your best and don’t let the difficult days be discouraging - it’s a learning process!

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Perhaps if you want to try something different, you shouldn’t revert to level 1, just keep going from whatever level you left it at. I’m sure you don’t remember a lot of it, and that’s okay. Let SRS sort that out. Don’t start lessons at all until you’ve taken the backlog down to zero. At least that way you’ll stand a better chance of moving forward, past wherever you left it last time.

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I understand this deeply lol. Tbf, with WaniKani specifically I have only done it twice. The first time I gave up on level 2 cause I saw how much work it was and I was not willing to do it. Then I came back years later and made it to level 60 in a little over a year. The thing is finding the motivation is crucial. When I did WaniKani for real I was living in Japan and since moving here studying Japanese has become a lot easier because I have a reason and a motivation to do it everyday. Before moving here there was no real reason and I could easily shortcut my way into doing the bare minimum.

I say all of this to say you need to find a way to motivate yourself to keep going. Perhaps it’s reading books, and noticing the progress you are making. Maybe it means talking to some Japanese friends and seeing the fruits of your labor in real time. Or, in the worst case scenario, and if you are anything like me, you need to just move to Japan lol I made a whole post about it my WaniKani method and journey, but TLDR what I found is that living here I could constantly use all the knowledge I was getting from WaniKani and apply it to my daily life. Like a video game WaniKani was letting me unlock real life content like signs I could now read, new interactions with friends and co workers, and new places I felt now comfortable going to since I knew enough Kanji and Japanese to understand.

So I would say there is not going to be an easy answer anyone can give you, but more so you have to really figure out 1. If you even really care to study Japanese seriously and 2. If yes then what things can you do to actually motivate yourself to keep going?

Lastly other than reading books, and making Japanese friends, I would recommend maybe VRChat. You don’t actually need VR and there is a lot of Japanese content and people on there. One of the few ways that I actually was motivated to study Japanese when in America was playing VRChat because I saw immediate returns.

You’re not alone though. The struggle is real and I think finding motivation is the biggest blocker for anyone learning a new language, or really anything new. Anyway good luck!

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Thank you for reminding me, I really need to visualize my motivations again. Today I did 30 min in the morning and it felt so right. I will try my best for all the heavy lessons ahead, knowing there are people here to answer my weird questions makes me less scared :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: Ty!

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Yes, I didn’t restart this time - Iam currently trying to keep pushing! It’s ok to forget stuff.. I need to remind myself of that too thank you :slight_smile:

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Thank you for your comment, it feel much more normal when I hear other people have/had similar problems on their journey. Wow, lvl 60 in a year and something on your second try! That’s impressive!
Yesterday I made a plan - Im going to Japan in two years ( because of finances :smiley: ) and that is a huge motivation for me. To talk to people and of course I want to read some books in japanese :slight_smile:
Ty!

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Ty also for recommending VRChat - sound like something I could really get motivation out of it aswell

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I have massive ADHD and therefore also huge issues with creating habits and sticking to routines, so I hope these methods that worked for me might also work for you.

For me it just needs to be in my face to keep remembering it. The app Tsurukame allows you to not only do wanikani on your phone, but also has a widget that you can put on your main screen, showing the reviews and lessons that are still available. This has kept me on track for a good while. Also, if you have a moment for yourself each day (like for example public transport to work or Big Toilet Time™ or something), then it might be good to mentally connect that to Wanikani, and do some research while moving towards doing business.

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Hey, Iam currently waiting for my ADHD test results^^. Yes true, it could really help to see it, everytime I look on my phone. Going to download it today. Tysm for your help!

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Oh that’s great to hear!
We have a support thread on here if you want to take a look :slight_smile:
And remember, even if you don’t end up getting the diagnosis, doesn’t mean the manual for it doesn’t help :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-adhd-thread/51571

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Apart form your overall goals and dreams, something that could potentially help as well is setting short term goals.

“I’m going to master Japanese!” could take a lifetime. “I’m going to finish WK!” is a year or two of daily work.

Pick a level below 60 that you want to reach. Pick a single page from a manga/book, or text box in a game, and make it a goal of researching the words and grammar until you understand it. Pick a low number, and try to reach it as a daily WK/Japanese study streak.

You can put as many sub-goals in there as you want, to reward yourself and remind yourself that you’re doing it! The positive reinforcement of “good job, me. I did it” can help make you feel better about the process. Especially when the drudgery sets in. Looking back at accomplishments is a good distraction from overly focussing on the long road ahead.

Best of luck!

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