How long do I have to wait?

Well, if you don’t have a problem with waiting for new content, you can do one level per week. The kanji roughly follow the JLPT and school grade lists, so per level you will probably see only a few unknown kanji for a while. There are 100+ new words per level, you might find some new insights there sooner.

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okay :slight_smile: thanks for all your opinions !

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Very helpful thread. I was thinking to use WK to study for N1 because my friends recommended it, but if it takes half a year to start up I don’t think that’s feasible.

Have you thought about a “Test me at my own risk before showing the lesson, I already know this” mode, and setting successfully tested items to Master? Failed items would be caught by the SRS.

I know your reasons for not allowing it in principle are sound, but it’s a real barrier of entry to advanced learners.

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You may want to look into Heisig’s Remembering the Kanji or maybe Kanji Book (neither of which I’ve personally tried). Wanikani wants to do a lot of hand holding because beginners are notoriously bad at getting through the beginner stage. If you want to catch up to your current level of progress then there are probably more efficient options.

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I came here with about 500 kanji and a JLPT N3 under my belt, and the prospect of slogging through lesson after lesson of stuff I already knew almost made me throw in the towel. Even stopped using it for three years.

Thing is, I didn’t do any other study for those three years either - like, at all. Think I just don’t have the dicipline for self-study - all the other little things I want to do keep getting in the way. So, I came back and picked it up again. And yeah, I am still getting lesson after lesson of stuff I already knew, but thanks to Koichi’s rather idiosyncratic teaching order, I’m getting some new stuff here and there as well.

Maybe at least finish off the free levels first? :slightly_smiling_face:

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I suggested what I did because the goal was actually to check what items WK offers, not testing if the system works for the OP. That’s not the problem :slight_smile:

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About 5 times a week when it gets asked here :slight_smile:

They’re not going to do that.

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My secret hope is that the dev will give in at some point… or at least meet us somewhere in-between.

@felixvd @SerahShirin I was in a situation similar to both of you (I technically learned all 常用漢字, but I am shaky on a few hundred of them and as time goes I tend to forget their reading).
I really like the way WaniKani teaches kanjis, but I wasn’t sure it was worth it. Thanks to someone I know who is using it, I could check the page for a kanji I always had trouble with (慶) and it immediately stuck. That was an instant buy for me.

Now, I am just powering my way through the system while reading the lessons for the kanjis I really care about. Once you are registered, you can see all WK has to offer, so nothing will stop you from learning on your own. It’s frustrating that the system cannot be made more flexible, but it’s good enough for me.

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You can use the stats site for that, can’t you? Or do non-paying users not get APIs?

Not sure. I didn’t think about proposing that since it doesn’t seem fair.

Great question. I’m in the same boat. Currently studying for 漢字検定6級。I am using WaniKani for the mnemonics and the extra vocab I can pick up along the way. I love the example sentences on WaniKani. I’ll admit that I haven’t really learned much in the first three levels. Some vocabulary here and there from the sentences and crazy radicals like “poop” that will hopefully speed up my kanji learning and help improve retention and recall.

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I’m in a similar situation with already knowing quite a few kanji and vocab words from years of Japanese class, but this is my first go with self study and I’ve been out of the game for a while. While the extent of my frustration thus far more often comes from genuinely mistyping things while going too quickly versus not knowing them, there have been a few nice little surprises in here, too (with the vocab, not as much the kanji…yet).

Think of it as a good long review with the best, most entertaining example sentences and commentary available, is my best advice. I’ve subscribed because a) I am an optimistic gal with a dream and b) there is something about the quirkiness and creativity in the explanations, radical names, mnemonics I just adore, and I think it’s helping me recall the things I already know FASTER, which makes me think I’ll struggle less to retain new kanji once I get to them. I am excited for it to become more challenging too, though. I guess for now I’m enjoying the ride there :slight_smile: I’m in no particular hurry, I’m just happy to be pursuing Japanese again.

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Nice to see someone else taking Kanken. I detailed my experience with preparing for, taking, and ultimately passing level 5 here. I’d like to take levels 4 and 3 this year.

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I conversed with them via email before and they said the work on a system that tests your foreknowledge and will then allow you to start up higher. However, they also said to not expect it in the near future

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There are some user scripts that help you with that
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/9867-wanikani-override

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Nice. I am aiming for 5 this year. For people who are curious, I am learning to write kanji for two reasons. One is to be able to help my kids with their homework and the other is to reduce my reading mistakes. It might sound counter-intuitive to practice writing to improve reading but I with all the similar kanji out there, I felt the best way to understand them is to know how to write them.

You can use the stats site, but you don’t get any details about the radicals/kanjis/words.

Even if you have a paid account, you only get to see details through the stats site once you unlock an item.
However, in the case of a paid account, you can click on the item and be redirected to the relevant page on WK.

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@jprspereira
@Belthazar

I will finish the first three levels and then subscribe for 1 year I think :slight_smile:

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@kit5un3 I feel very similar too! You put into words exactly how I feel about starting from the beginning and committing to a long review. I hope you have great success with WK and that the silly mnemonics keep us all motivated to slug through the dark kanji mists and come out the other side fully literate XD

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