It surprises me that someone can be so rude and at the same time so oblivious.
You’re doing good work Doublevil, it’s much appreciated.
Doublevil said…
So I take it you don’t care about my offer but you didn’t have to be rude… you could have just igorned it if it did not interest you.
Oh my god. That’s all I have to say.
forgottenmems said... So I take it you don't care about my offer but you didn't have to be rude.. you could have just igorned it if it did not interest you....I think he and everyone else here you're being rude. After all, HouHou is an open-source project. It's a passion project maintained in Doublevil's spare time. And in the spirit of the ever-growing open-source community, it's free for the community to use. It is decidedly not in the spirit of an open-source community to backhandedly berate Doublevil's efforts, brag about your boyfriend's triumph, and then try to sell a mere three hours of work instead of making a pull request. To a developer, that's the equivalent of getting bitch-slapped.
tvtran said... ...I think he and everyone else here you're being rude. After all, HouHou is an open-source project. It's a passion project maintained in Doublevil's spare time. And in the spirit of the ever-growing open-source community, it's free for the community to use. It is decidedly not in the spirit of an open-source community to backhandedly berate Doublevil's efforts, brag about your boyfriend's triumph, and then try to sell a mere three hours of work instead of making a pull request. To a developer, that's the equivalent of getting bitch-slapped.Thank you.
Doublevil said...I could not have said this any better, tvtran. The impudence of some people... well, it's the internet with all its flavors, huh?tvtran said... ...I think he and everyone else here you're being rude. After all, HouHou is an open-source project. It's a passion project maintained in Doublevil's spare time. And in the spirit of the ever-growing open-source community, it's free for the community to use. It is decidedly not in the spirit of an open-source community to backhandedly berate Doublevil's efforts, brag about your boyfriend's triumph, and then try to sell a mere three hours of work instead of making a pull request. To a developer, that's the equivalent of getting bitch-slapped.Thank you.
I want to use this to thank you, Doublevil. This whole project is an amazing feat and it's great to see someone so passionate, even trying to help out people who are obnoxious and rude.
Though I don't use Houhou that much (yet), I really love the software and how it's done (I especially love the customizability of SRS levels with custom names so on; I had alot of fun playing around kaomojis as level names) and I think that everything that is added from this point on is a nice bonus but not even a necessity anymore.
Personally I'd love to see the reverse SRS feature - my biggest problem is remembering kanji and vocab the other way round; reading no probs, but for the reverse thing I need to use another tool where I have to manually maintain cards separetly, which kinda sucks. =P
But I guess you won't implement that anytime soon, so... I guess I'll have to do it for you this weekend, clean and simple. How about fifty bucks in advance, and another hundred for the time needed (50/hour)? ;D
Keep up the good work.
“my boyfriend” made me laugh.
I never ceased to be amazed by how self-centred some people are.
Doublevil spends two years of his spare time to create an amazing tool. Releases it a year later to the community for free to almost universal praise. Bends over backward to help people when they run into difficulties and tries his best to accommodate the reasonable requests of the people using his application.
Too many people hold the fallacy that their use case must be a common use case. It doesn’t even seem to me that the issues encountered made the tool unusable for the required use case, only rather inconvenient. If such a “simple” use case were in fact as common as believed, it would likely have been requested many times by now, and likely implemented because Doublevil is just that kind of guy.
In no universe is your boyfriend’s paltry three hours’ work worth more than the two years that Doublevil spent on it, such that it warrants payment when the original product is free. To request payment is to suggest otherwise, and is quite frankly insulting.
Doublevil, while I don’t use this app (I own a Mac), I have nothing but respect for your work. I’ve looked over your code when I was considering porting it to the Mac. Your dedication to the community is admirable, and I doff my cap to you. Keep up the excellent work.
ShaezoNai said... I could not have said this any better, tvtran. The impudence of some people... well, it's the internet with all its flavors, huh?Oh thank you! That's sweet! :)
I want to use this to thank you, Doublevil. This whole project is an amazing feat and it's great to see someone so passionate, even trying to help out people who are obnoxious and rude.
Though I don't use Houhou that much (yet), I really love the software and how it's done (I especially love the customizability of SRS levels with custom names so on; I had alot of fun playing around kaomojis as level names) and I think that everything that is added from this point on is a nice bonus but not even a necessity anymore.
Personally I'd love to see the reverse SRS feature - my biggest problem is remembering kanji and vocab the other way round; reading no probs, but for the reverse thing I need to use another tool where I have to manually maintain cards separetly, which kinda sucks. =P
But I guess you won't implement that anytime soon, so... I guess I'll have to do it for you this weekend, clean and simple. How about fifty bucks in advance, and another hundred for the time needed (50/hour)? ;D
Keep up the good work.
About your offer, I hope you're not planning to spend too long on it, like, I don't know, 3 hours! There are so much better uses for that time... Also paying you for that long is out of the question because I'm broke. LOL
Sorry forgottenmems, I don't usually poke fun at people like that, but I couldn't resist the occasion.
Anyway! Let's get back to business as usual. :)
EDIT: Thank you Dwarsen, tvtran, cplaverty and everyone else too! :)
Doublevil I really hate the feature where the notification pops up telling me I have reviews available. Can’t you just beam the information into my brain? God, Houhou suuuuucks. I’m calling my boyfriend.
I have this problem where often times houhou just refuses to start up. I will click it countless times and it just doesn’t react. is this a common problem? how do I fix it?
rozensouseiseki said... I have this problem where often times houhou just refuses to start up. I will click it countless times and it just doesn't react. is this a common problem? how do I fix it?This one gets me every time. I have a few reports of situations like that, but they all eventually disappear, either by rebooting or just... waiting, as it seems.
I'd advise trying to find and kill the Houhou process with the task manager, and then trying to restart it.
Doublevil said...I'll try that, so far logging out of my laptop and logging back in works but I do hope that the problem eventually disappears as you said ^^rozensouseiseki said... I have this problem where often times houhou just refuses to start up. I will click it countless times and it just doesn't react. is this a common problem? how do I fix it?This one gets me every time. I have a few reports of situations like that, but they all eventually disappear, either by rebooting or just... waiting, as it seems.
I'd advise trying to find and kill the Houhou process with the task manager, and then trying to restart it.
To all the stupid people out there…I did not mean to suggest 3 hours of work was some big feat that was in any way better than the countless hours that went into the project but the thing is… given any random person on the street… they cannot code what my boyfriend did and if that was valuable to the original person that made the project he was going to have to pay for it bc it was work that he didn’t do. Plain and simple.
The fact of the matter is… the program is more valuable now for a general use case … it better reflects Anki while retaining it’s uniqueness from it. Just because you poured countless hours into it doesn’t make it great or worth it on it’s own.
forgottenmems said...Just because you poured countless hours into it doesn't make it great or worth it on it's own....
> Game is Hard
I wanna be all chill and flippant like how Doublevil's been handling this whole thing but deep inside I really feel like this
forgottenmems said... To all the stupid people out there..I did not mean to suggest 3 hours of work was some big feat that was in any way better than the countless hours that went into the project but the thing is.. given any random person on the street.. they cannot code what my boyfriend did and if that was valuable to the original person that made the project he was going to have to pay for it bc it was work that he didn't do. Plain and simple.
The fact of the matter is.. the program is more valuable now for a general use case .. it better reflects Anki while retaining it's uniqueness from it. Just because you poured countless hours into it doesn't make it great or worth it on it's own.
I don't think you can ask money for any adjustment your boyfriend made to this program, because it's not ' his' program. he doesn't own the rights to it and neither do you, you... do realize this, right?
ps. don't call people stupid here, it's not polite, we're trying to keep this a safe environment. try to be considerate at all times.
rozensouseiseki said...I was not "asking for money" in the literal sense.. I was offering the service since my boyfriend did the work. There is a difference there. Asking in that sense means I expected it. It was really a nonchalant thing like.. "Oh by the way.." and people just blew that out of proportion.forgottenmems said... To all the stupid people out there..I did not mean to suggest 3 hours of work was some big feat that was in any way better than the countless hours that went into the project but the thing is.. given any random person on the street.. they cannot code what my boyfriend did and if that was valuable to the original person that made the project he was going to have to pay for it bc it was work that he didn't do. Plain and simple.I don't think you can ask money for any adjustment your boyfriend made to this program, because it's not ' his' program. he doesn't own the rights to it and neither do you, you... do realize this, right? ps. don't call people stupid here, it's not polite, we're trying to keep this a safe environment. try to be considerate at all times.
The fact of the matter is.. the program is more valuable now for a general use case .. it better reflects Anki while retaining it's uniqueness from it. Just because you poured countless hours into it doesn't make it great or worth it on it's own.
Doublevil said...This is reproducible on my machine. It happens when I launch two instances of Houhou from the start menu one directly after the other (although it is not easy to do and usually requires quite a few other porcesses to also be loading). Houhou then stalls as a background processrozensouseiseki said... I have this problem where often times houhou just refuses to start up. I will click it countless times and it just doesn't react. is this a common problem? how do I fix it?This one gets me every time. I have a few reports of situations like that, but they all eventually disappear, either by rebooting or just... waiting, as it seems.
I'd advise trying to find and kill the Houhou process with the task manager, and then trying to restart it.
forgottenmems said...because adding =DATE() to a column is worth 3 hours [/sarcasm]rozensouseiseki said...I was not "asking for money" in the literal sense.. I was offering the service since my boyfriend did the work. There is a difference there. Asking in that sense means I expected it. It was really a nonchalant thing like.. "Oh by the way.." and people just blew that out of proportion.forgottenmems said... To all the stupid people out there..I did not mean to suggest 3 hours of work was some big feat that was in any way better than the countless hours that went into the project but the thing is.. given any random person on the street.. they cannot code what my boyfriend did and if that was valuable to the original person that made the project he was going to have to pay for it bc it was work that he didn't do. Plain and simple.I don't think you can ask money for any adjustment your boyfriend made to this program, because it's not ' his' program. he doesn't own the rights to it and neither do you, you... do realize this, right? ps. don't call people stupid here, it's not polite, we're trying to keep this a safe environment. try to be considerate at all times.
The fact of the matter is.. the program is more valuable now for a general use case .. it better reflects Anki while retaining it's uniqueness from it. Just because you poured countless hours into it doesn't make it great or worth it on it's own.
Since you can't read the atmosphere I'll lay this out flat: stop asking for money even in exchange for time here
As for the bolded, no. You didn't change the program, it already had the feature you needed.
forgottenmems said... To all the stupid people out there..I did not mean to suggest 3 hours of work was some big feat that was in any way better than the countless hours that went into the project but the thing is.. given any random person on the street.. they cannot code what my boyfriend did and if that was valuable to the original person that made the project he was going to have to pay for it bc it was work that he didn't do. Plain and simple.You were extremely rude to someone who's contributed a whole hell of a lot to the community. Put down the shovel. You really don't need to elaborate any more on your comments in this thread.
The fact of the matter is.. the program is more valuable now for a general use case .. it better reflects Anki while retaining it's uniqueness from it. Just because you poured countless hours into it doesn't make it great or worth it on it's own.
pinkbubblegum said...Doublevil is a Zen master. Little-known fact. :Pforgottenmems said...Just because you poured countless hours into it doesn't make it great or worth it on it's own....
> Game is Hard
I wanna be all chill and flippant like how Doublevil's been handling this whole thing but deep inside I really feel like this
forgottenmems said...Your intention doesn't even matter.rozensouseiseki said...I was not "asking for money" in the literal sense.. I was offering the service since my boyfriend did the work. There is a difference there. Asking in that sense means I expected it. It was really a nonchalant thing like.. "Oh by the way.." and people just blew that out of proportion.forgottenmems said... To all the stupid people out there..I did not mean to suggest 3 hours of work was some big feat that was in any way better than the countless hours that went into the project but the thing is.. given any random person on the street.. they cannot code what my boyfriend did and if that was valuable to the original person that made the project he was going to have to pay for it bc it was work that he didn't do. Plain and simple.I don't think you can ask money for any adjustment your boyfriend made to this program, because it's not ' his' program. he doesn't own the rights to it and neither do you, you... do realize this, right? ps. don't call people stupid here, it's not polite, we're trying to keep this a safe environment. try to be considerate at all times.
The fact of the matter is.. the program is more valuable now for a general use case .. it better reflects Anki while retaining it's uniqueness from it. Just because you poured countless hours into it doesn't make it great or worth it on it's own.
The point is that Doublevil spent a huge amount of time on the application itself, offering it to the community for free, always helping out and eager to develop new features when there's time.
If you want to support the application - fine. Do some donation, make a pull request, but don't come up and slap some quick-implemented feature in his face and say "here, my boyfriend did that. If you're interested to extend your OPEN SOURCE PROJECT, we could talk about a price."
No matter your intention, no matter how you wanted to say it - it is just plain rude and, bluntly speaking, nothing more than a dick move. I really hope you did this offer on your own volition and were not told by your boyfriend to do that - because that would make him a developer of questionable standards with no respect for other people's products.
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