Cataloging my Personal Japanese Library

I have a lot of Japanese language books in my personal library, as well as Japanese language learning textbooks, books about Japan, Japanese magazines, and the like.

Not just “a lot” of books, but “a whole lot of books” - likely more than 1000 of them.

It’s quite a mixed bag of titles and topics. I’m not at all sure of what I have. I’ve accumulated them over the years, from various sources, including buying new and used volumes from bookstores (both in the US and in Japan), buying many of them at library used book sales, ordering some complete manga series via eBay (typically from Japanese sellers), as well as picking up the odd volume or two as gifts from friends.

I started my collection very early in my language learning process, when I had little hope of being able to read anything more challenging than some simple children’s books - and I’ve kept on adding to the library over the course of more years than I care to count up, with the goal of someday being able to tackle more difficult ones. I’m still a long way from becoming a proficient reader, but WK has been a big help and motivator for me.

I’ve been meaning to make an inventory or catalog of the books in my library, but never seemed to be able to find the time to get started on such a project. However, an upcoming change in circumstances, namely the likelihood that I will be moving out of the house where I’ve been living for the past ten years (as the owner of the house intends to put it on the market soon), has led me to consider making a serious attempt to do the job.

So, my intent is to use this topic to record my attempt to make a complete catalog of my Japanese books, recording both successes and failures along the way, in the hope that it may help others who may be interested in cataloging their own personal libraries.

Right off the bat I ran into some problems, which I’m reposting from the ‘complaints’ thread::

So, I thought that some experimentation would be a good idea before committing to a specific approach for the whole library.

This is an example entry that I scanned with my phone using the libib app, as viewed on libib.com (the app and the website share the data).

I started out by scanning the barcode from the paperback copy of Alice in Wonderland that my niece gave me a few months ago as a birthday present.

The app was able to locate the book and a short description from the ISBN barcode scan (using the phone’s camera), but it does not have a cover lookup ability, rather it was necessary for me to take a photo of the book’s cover. I’m wondering whether either booklog or bookmeter may be able to import the ISBN, do the lookup, and retrieve a cover image - if so, it would save a lot of time that otherwise would be needed for snapping cover images (the sample shown here has lousy lighting and ‘framing’ of the cover)..

I’m also wondering about what indexing and search capabilities may be available through either booklog or bookmeter.

Anyway, I’m unsure of where this is going to lead me, but I figure that I will add some notes to this topic from time to time to chart my progress (and/or setbacks).

No promises as to how often I will post here.

But I’d welcome any others who may have experience in cataloging their own libraries, or who may have questions or comments about my experiences, to feel free to post here as well.

I’ve been using LibraryThing for my English books, but it doesn’t work so great for Japanese ones. Easiest lookup method is to scan the barcodes with my phone, but despite the fact that the I in ISBN stands for International, whatever database LibraryThing is consulting does appear to include Japanese books. Or maybe I’d just been scanning them before they were added, and if I try again now it’ll work properly. Or maybe I need to try a different lookup method. Dunno.

LibraryThing is telling me that my catalogue includes 3199 items.

I’m pretty sure that you’ve got me beat.

I ran across LibraryThing while looking for an alternative to booklog or bookmeter, but have not investigated it in detail (yet, anyway). It’s on my short list of things to look into.

Is that Japanese, English, or everything?

Now I want to count my books next time I’m home. (I live interstate but haven’t brought the majority of my books with me.)

Everything I’ve successfully scanned. So I’m fairly sure there’s some Japanese books lurking in there somewhere, but the vast majority is English. Also includes all my western sci-fi books.

I thought I’d scanned in every book I own, but after some cursory searching, I might have missed an entire book case, so possibly I have more scanning to do.

Bookmeter used to allow to scan the ISBN (with the phone app) and find the book (with all information, cover pic and all) but when I tried this again recently, I could not find the feature any more… (but maybe that’s just a me problem :face_with_peeking_eye:)

Another option for your books library might be learnnatively.com ? [Full disclosure: I recently joined the dev team over there so I might be sliiiightly biased :innocent:]
For the import, you can search by ISBN (and add the book yourself if it is missing) but there is no camera scanning feature (yet ^^), so that’s a bit inconvenient. Its unique selling point is that it is geared towards learners, and every book gets a difficulty level based on users’ gradings (basically a large amount of comparisons à la “Book A or Book B (that you both read) - which is harder?”) and so you would get a nice ranking of your books by difficulty and would know which of them make sense for you to read already, and which maybe not yet.
Please note that levels are of course only available for books that others have read and graded, but by now there is a large number of graded books present already, so it can only get better, right? :crossed_fingers:
You can of course first try it out and play around with it before you put all your books into it.

Agree on Learnatively.com - a very handy site for the learner. I also have Bookmeter but I haven’t played with it much. It definitely works with barcodes, have to see how it goes with some of my older manga.

For what it’s worth, the majority of Japanese/English books I’ve scanned using Libib have had cover images; I would imagine it’s a case of anything 10-20 years old might start getting dodgy in terms of whatever database it’s pulling from having the correct info?

Nicole here dropping the ultra-secret dev thoughts as casual comments. :eyes:

I wouldn’t necessarily suggest my approach for a collection of 1000 or more unless the other options totally fail you, but for my collection of a few hundred (I think around 400) I used a Notion ‘database’ which is to say a very fancy spreadsheet. It looks like this with minimal filters applied, but I can search by title or author as well as filter by type of media (physical, ebook, audio) and content (novel, short stories, nonfiction, etc).
Since I created it from scratch I can add as much or as little detail as I please.

I am considering using learnnatively.com as a resource, but rather than employing it as the primary database system, I would use it instead as a supplementary tool alongside my primary database in order to research (and maybe also track) my actual reading plans.

That way I can keep the cataloging process separate and distinct from the reading process(es) - very different sets of tasks in my way of thinking, although I can certainly appreciate the potential benefits of using a single tool rather than dealing with multiple ones.

for the most part probably 99% of my library is in natively…did it a couple of years ago…
the only exceptions are books that were only avail on bw …

and doujins but those don’t usually have isbns :wink:

(currently can only add if they are on amazon)…but hopefully that will not be a limitation in the long term… it’s only a handful anyway…

currently at 1261 books…

though I have seen some updates in the email…think we finally have some folks helping clear out and fix things…so will try to check and add the ones that couldn’t do before…

natively is a nice way to gather everything and you can export your data into a spreadsheet and then mess about if you want…also great for tracking reading stats… next readathon is coming in the summer… join us!!!

I’ve done just a bit more experimentation with Libib, and unless somehow I’m “doing it wrong”, unfortunately I’ve encountered enough hurdles in trying to use it to build a catalog that it’s leading me to look for some other, better tool.

I seriously dislike the processes required for adding books to a collection.

Do people actually use Libib in the real world? I might be able to vibe code something in an hour or two that would do a better job.

For example, as far as I’ve been able to tell, you have to specify for each item that it is a ‘book’, as opposed to setting that once. When I know that I’m going to be adding 1000 books to a collection, why on earth should I have to tell it for each and every item that it’s a book that I’m adding?

(Let alone the fact that if it finds an ISBN, wouldn’t that be good enough to tell the system that the item is a ‘book’, as opposed to a whatever else?)

It seems to jump the gun when scanning, in that it often falsely says that it can’t locate a record for the scanned item, but if I try again and position the camera more carefully, it performs a proper scan and finds the item. Over the course of likely hundreds of scans, that would turn into a huge time waster.

Then, when it does correctly scan an ISBN, it does not tell me immediately whether or not it has located a cover image - thus for each scan I have to manually check to see if it found the cover image, and if not I need to then snap a photo of the cover. Again, the workflow is awkward and error-prone and time-consuming.

On top of that, if you want to do a manual entry of an item, it’s not sufficient to simply key in the ISBN and leave it up to the app to fill in the blanks. Rather, it demands that I also key in a title for the book. Why the !@#$%^& does it need me to manually key in the title if I can supply the ISBN? That simply makes no sense whatsoever.

So, unless there’s something that I’ve somehow missed, all of those are deal-breakers for me (sigh).

not all books are in natively by isbn…but it is one search option :wink:

Wow…

Possibly - but no promises :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

I know that Notion has a very dedicated fan base - but somehow it has never clicked for me.

But I’ll keep it in mind - for example, I’m thinking that one approach to vibe coding a cataloging app (if I eventually do go in that direction) might be to use Notion or Airtable or even (grid help me) something like google sheets or Excel as a component which I would then customize and extend as needed.

I didn’t set a time frame though :innocent:

Ah thanks for the explanation! Always so interesting to see how different people approach this.

well maybe not…
but think everyone has more faith in the dev team over there… :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

it can’t be worse than the return of the so called mythical summary page :rofl:

I recently added all my books (read and want to read) to Calibre, it’s very similar looking and also pretty customizable. I don’t think they have a dedicated phone app, but they have a large user base and maybe someone has developed an ISBN scanning addon or something similar. Adding and importing a list of ISBNs definitely works. It automatically imports title, author, sometimes genre, too. You can add series, dates read, and anything else you want to keep track of.
Cleaning up 3000 book entries sounds like a lot of work, though :see_no_evil_monkey: I only added about 100-150.

Possible glimmer of hope department:

A few years ago I had bought a Sony Xperia X android phone to play with. It was a small and inexpensive toy - I never had a wireless plan for it, rather I just used it for browsing the web and running apps - and it had the Japanese Docomo OS installed. Haven’t used it for a very long time, but managed to find it, charged it up, and opened up google play to look for the booklog app. No luck, it wasn’t listed.

But I then tried doing a google search for the booklog app, and that led me to a google play store link for the app. Progress (finally) - but… unfortunately the current booklog app is not supported on the ancient version of android that the Xperia is running.

Not quite ready to give up, I checked google play for the bookmeter app - didn’t find it, but did find the bookwalker app. Are they the same thing? I dunno - it’s 3 AM here, and my brain is a bit foggy, and my Japanese reading ability kinda sucks, but I can install the app on the Xperia’s android version - reading about the app in Japanese kinda sorta gives me some hope that I’m getting warmer, nevertheless I haven’t tried attacking it in English yet because I need to challenge my Japanese reading abilities - OK, I recognize that word as “dokusho”, but it’s followed by a kanji that is similar to but different from the ha in happyou because the top “roof” looking part is the same, but below that is the glyph that I always think looks like a toilet (but nobody else sees it that way), and that one is followed by a character that looks a lot like midori green, except that the radical at the left is, um, gold instead of thread - sigh, I’m only at WK level 17 so I haven’t learned those yet, but I will figure them out once I wake up, after getting a few more hours of sleep…

I should have recognized the toilet-under-the-roof from “noboru” 登る

Yeah, it’s not really a roof, it’s supposed to be legs, and it’s not really a toilet, but that’s what it looks like to me: 登

So this means “add to reading list”.

読書登録

I’m def gonna remember that (maybe), especially if I see it a few more times.

OK, back to sleep now for reals.